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      11-05-2015, 10:40 AM   #1
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New Pad time

I have been running the Porterfield 4 race pads on the 2r. I am getting sick of switching out pads so I am thinking of the 4s. Anyone have any other recommendations?

The 4 race pads are great, they just need a ton of heat to work properly. On the street I sound like a 80s school bus. I don't mind giving up some time, and fade obviously would like to be kept to a minimal, however if it is predictable I can adapt.
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I have been running the Porterfield 4 race pads on the 2r. I am getting sick of switching out pads so I am thinking of the 4s. Anyone have any other recommendations?

The 4 race pads are great, they just need a ton of heat to work properly. On the street I sound like a 80s school bus. I don't mind giving up some time, and fade obviously would like to be kept to a minimal, however if it is predictable I can adapt.
I had a set of the R4-S pads. They're good. I moved on to EBC Yellowstuffs -- they're better. Neither of them are particularly loud, and they stop well/have very high fade resistance given their reasonable street manners.
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Thanks LP,

on the 2 sets,

what was the lifespan?

hard or soft byte?

Do you left foot brake? The r4 pads, were a little to grippy for minor mid turn corrections w the brakes.
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Thanks LP,

on the 2 sets,

what was the lifespan?

hard or soft byte?

Do you left foot brake? The r4 pads, were a little to grippy for minor mid turn corrections w the brakes.
The R4S lasted about -- eh 12000 street miles (ish) and 7 track days. Mind you, I am pretty hard on my brakes (on track) because I suck.

Can't say about the Yellowstuffs -- just got them last month. So far, I really like them. They have a bit harder bite than the R4S pads, but the R4S wasn't really "soft." Both pads seem to do well for brake modulation (trail braking, some left foot braking) as they are pretty progressive -- a little bite at first, and then A LOT OF BITE as you get more into the pedal. Both are quality pads -- can't go wrong with either.
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yellow stuff it is then, will grab some new rotors and pads and see how much difference there is.
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Just FYI - the part nos. for M235i Yellowstuffs are as follows:

DP42130R are the front pads
DP42133R are the rear pads
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I have PAGID pads in the Yellow RS29 compound, and they are in another league as compared to the OEM with regards to fade.

I ran them on the street all summer and they made quite a bit of noise after the recommended bedding-in procedure, but most of it went away after a track day.

Now they make a little noise on the street, but the powerful braking on track, lap after lap, more than compensate for this slight inconvenience.

Try them for yourself and, if you track regularly, you'll never go back to intermediate pads.
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I have PAGID pads in the Yellow RS29 compound, and they are in another league as compared to the OEM with regards to fade.

I ran them on the street all summer and they made quite a bit of noise after the recommended bedding-in procedure, but most of it went away after a track day.

Now they make a little noise on the street, but the powerful braking on track, lap after lap, more than compensate for this slight inconvenience.

Try them for yourself and, if you track regularly, you'll never go back to intermediate pads.
Thinking of getting the RS29s over the ebc. Did you just bed them in on existing discs? I know they recommend having the edges filed for partially worn discs to aid even contact.
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Thinking of getting the RS29s over the ebc. Did you just bed them in on existing discs? I know they recommend having the edges filed for partially worn discs to aid even contact.
Yes, I just slapped them on my OEM discs and everything went well.

However, they are rather hard to bed in and require an intense workout. I only really felt they were bed in after my first track session.
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If anyone is interested, Endless now has pads for the M235i -- their MX72 compound. It's a street/track compound that is a bit more hardcore (and expensive) than the RS-4's or Yellowstuff's -- $370 bucks an axle.

If anyone is interested, contact Endless at info@endlessusa.com and ask for Erik. It's the same pad/part no. as the M3/M4 pad (we have the same calipers).
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went with the ebc yellows in front, have the r4 in the rear, we will see if that helps with bias, off to track for next three days.
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Good luck. Subscribing to hear your results.
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Sorry guys, only got in one day and had to leave for a work issue. That day was spent coaching so all I did was bed the brakes.

I might get out on the 17th to a small local track that is hell on the brakes, it would be a good test. I will keep you informed.
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went with the ebc yellows in front, have the r4 in the rear, we will see if that helps with bias, off to track for next three days.
whats the part # for the yellow front?

nevermind...

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EBC DP32130C- FRONT
EBC DP32133C- REAR

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EBC DP42130R- FRONT
EBC DP42133R- REAR

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after 4 days or so on the Ebcs I am going back to the full track pad. Ebcs would be ok for beginner or perhaps stock tires. They just started to fall off and overheat real fast. however they are real nice and quiet for the street.
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On my brothers TTRS we ran the following and had great success with endurance races and regular track use. Also, the fronts are the same pad that comes stock on the 991 GT3 Cup car and if I'm not mistaken some of the M Cup cars, also.. They have great modulation and bite late, but firm and never fades. He didn't daily it too much with those pads but he said he would if he didn't drive the car as a daily.

PFC 08 Front Pads (Performance Friction Brakes)
Carbotech XP10 rear pads

If there isn't a formulated 'recipe' by the time I get out, I'll try this exact setup on my 2'er. Another great thing with this setup was that you could swap back to factory pads and not run into contamination etc, which can't be said about a lot of other pads out there.

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I think it is all a matter of driver preference. The only downside to the R4 is the noise obviously and they have a bit much front grip for trimming a few mph without being grabby. I guess I will have to work more on my left foot sensitivity. Also the r4 race pads are about 200 for the front, which is pretty affordable. They lasted me 9 hard track days, rotors, prob you would get 2 sets of pads. So for me that would be about 2 sets of pads and a set of rotors a season.

I thought pagid, or others, but in the end I am cheap, and I know how these pads perform so that's my thoughts. If you run the others let us know!

Meanwhile, I will just switch in and out, or have people looking around when I pull up for the school bus.
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I think it is all a matter of driver preference. The only downside to the R4 is the noise obviously and they have a bit much front grip for trimming a few mph without being grabby. I guess I will have to work more on my left foot sensitivity. Also the r4 race pads are about 200 for the front, which is pretty affordable. They lasted me 9 hard track days, rotors, prob you would get 2 sets of pads. So for me that would be about 2 sets of pads and a set of rotors a season.

I thought pagid, or others, but in the end I am cheap, and I know how these pads perform so that's my thoughts. If you run the others let us know!

Meanwhile, I will just switch in and out, or have people looking around when I pull up for the school bus.
So a bunch of folks like the EBCs.... I haven't had good luck in the past with them on my E class. I was about to pull the trigger but the fronts were out of stock.

Thus, pparana, what are your thoughts for more bite on the street and no fade on the track? The Porterfields?
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So a bunch of folks like the EBCs.... I haven't had good luck in the past with them on my E class. I was about to pull the trigger but the fronts were out of stock.

Thus, pparana, what are your thoughts for more bite on the street and no fade on the track? The Porterfields?
Well there not bad but they got too hot for me and I am pretty gentle on brakes. Prob ok on street tires but not on r comps with fbo car w meth. Yeah I'm going porterfield, they worked with no issues, on stock iron, just super loud. I'll be keeping the ebc as dd pads.

I also run mostly open track so I'll do 1 -1.5 hrs sessions, ebc would probably suffice for the typical 20-25 min session.
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Well there not bad but they got too hot for me and I am pretty gentle on brakes. Prob ok on street tires but not on r comps with fbo car w meth. Yeah I'm going porterfield, they worked with no issues, on stock iron, just super loud. I'll be keeping the ebc as dd pads.

I also run mostly open track so I'll do 1 -1.5 hrs sessions, ebc would probably suffice for the typical 20-25 min session.
So you're sayingbthe EBCs Heat up? Are they much better than stock on the street?

And, would you run the Porterfields on the street at all? I used to run Hawk HT10s and HP Plus on the street and loved them.

Where do you buy the EBCs and Porterfields?
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So you're sayingbthe EBCs Heat up? Are they much better than stock on the street?

And, would you run the Porterfields on the street at all? I used to run Hawk HT10s and HP Plus on the street and loved them.

Where do you buy the EBCs and Porterfields?

They heat up in prolonged sessions, yes much better than stock on street, and work on track, just not as good as a dedicated race pad. I will be running yellow on the street, OK on track if I get lazy, just have to be mindful of the heat.

Maybe the r4s on street but r4 are loud, like police stopping you to tell you your car is broken loud.

Top brakes sells the porterfields, ebc are available from many vendors.
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They heat up in prolonged sessions, yes much better than stock on street, and work on track, just not as good as a dedicated race pad. I will be running yellow on the street, OK on track if I get lazy, just have to be mindful of the heat.

Maybe the r4s on street but r4 are loud, like police stopping you to tell you your car is broken loud.

Top brakes sells the porterfields, ebc are available from many vendors.
+1. My experience with EBCs are the same. For a "sprint" session, they are fine with proper fluid and lines, and road tires (200 TW). I agree with Pparana that they would not work for long sessions (1-1.5 hours) with semislicks or slicks. You would need a dedicated pad for that type of application.

Again, very good pads for street, acceptable for track use with the proper setup, but still not as good as a dedicated race pad for prolonged, heavy track use. I would recommend.
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