[dxb335d]

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/videos/...d_breaker.html

Same Map as i run.. i rekon the Coupe 3er will have a higher top speed, due to its more aerodynamic shape and weight advantage.


Carlos

[ChrisMWard]

Aerodynamics yes Carlos, weight no, it only effects how quick your top speed is attained.

Regards

Chris

[dxb335d]

Thanks Chris,

anyone have any stats on the drag on both cars?

Carlos

[mjh93sa]

If you look at this rather informative site they give figures for the drag coefficient of each: http://www.bmw.co.uk

[Dr.Crap]

Dont think there will be a huge amount of difference between the 2. Obviously the coupe will be a little faster. To be honest I'd be way too scared to take a car that fast on a track and attempt to find its top end.

[e-maps]

Pop down Brunty the next time we are there and see if you can do more than the 535d 174mph

[G33]

whos participating in fighting torque?

[Serjames]

How do we get involved in the Fighting Torque thing then ?

SJ

[G33]

dont know thought u cud tell me that. youre up to speed on these things! ive registered on the site but cant seem to find the booking/register to participate....there seem to be much 'lesser' powerful cars running, i thought at first it would be a lot of exotics similar to GTboard/M5/M6board organised events.

surely theirs a large fee to do this thinking about the site its held on

EDIT

sorry just read this

PROVISIONAL TIMETABLE

This website timetable is very much provisional. NB Times will vary.
Updated 5th August 2007

Date
Time
Activity

10th July 09.00 Priority Applications for entry opens
18th July 12.00 Public Applications for entry opens
8thAugust 12.00 Entries Close (Extended)
6th August 12.00 Deadline for Required Security Information
15.00 Event Final Instructions posted
12th August 07.30 Gates Open
07.45 Scrutineering / Documentation Opens
08.15 Familiarisation Runs in Minibus Start
09.30 Familiarisation Runs in Minibus End
09.40 Event Opening / Safety Briefing
10.00 Fighting Torque Racing Starts
10.15 MX Challenge Starts
13.00 Lunch Break (All activities cease)
14.00 Fighting Torque Racing Restarts
16.00 Fighting Torque Racing Ends
16.01 Racing continues (times do not count towards FT Results)
16.55 All Activities cease
17.00 Awards presentation & Event Close
18.00 Venue gates close.


EDIT AGAIN!

just rceived an email from organisers, that timetable was form last yr. 2008 details will be posted soon. my bad

[Welshman]

Originally Posted by Dr.Crap

Dont think there will be a huge amount of difference between the 2. Obviously the coupe will be a little faster. To be honest I'd be way too scared to take a car that fast on a track and attempt to find its top end.

Safest place to do it. Beats the A26 from Rheims to Calais late on a Monday evening.

[m.rk77]

I bet the Audi R8 diesel is muchos faster!

[Dr.Crap]

Originally Posted by m.rk77

I bet the Audi R8 diesel is muchos faster!

Provided it does'nt set fire to its roof like the V10's are doing

[NFS]

Originally Posted by dxb335d

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/videos/...d_breaker.html

Same Map as i run.. i rekon the Coupe 3er will have a higher top speed, due to its more aerodynamic shape and weight advantage.


Carlos

There is actually not as much difference in weight between the 535d and 335d as you would expect - because the 5'er uses so much aluminium.

Anyway ... the fastest STOCK BMW diesel is the older model 218bhp e60 530d.

It doesn't have a limiter, but can reach 157mph

[ChrisMWard]

There may well be something in the 5 series aerodynamics as well as cars with longer bootlids generally have the lowest CDs, assuming the front end is tidy.

Regards

Chris

[NFS]

Originally Posted by ChrisMWard

There may well be something in the 5 series aerodynamics as well as cars with longer bootlids generally have the lowest CDs, assuming the front end is tidy.

Regards

Chris

535d msport saloon - 1735kg / 0.27 cd

335d msport coupe - 1645kg / 0.30 cd

Difference in weight is equivalent to having me as a passenger

Presumably max speed will also be limited by gearing?

[ChrisMWard]

Originally Posted by needforspeed

535d msport saloon - 1735kg / 0.27 cd

335d msport coupe - 1645kg / 0.30 cd

Difference in weight is equivalent to having me as a passenger

Presumably max speed will also be limited by gearing?

That would explain why they chose the 5 for the attempt then.

With the 335d geared at about 40MPH/1000RPM, 174 MPH would equal 4350RPM, which compares well with the standard engines max output which is attained at 4400RPM. Assuming the 535d is similarly geared (it might actually be slightly lower geared?) and the DMS map pushes the output up a couple of hundred RPM, it may well be that the aerodynamics were the limiting factor.

All speculation though without knowing the 535ds gearing and the revs at which the DMS map produces its max power. All good fun.

Regards

Chris

[remmib]

Nice, 280km/h