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      06-01-2015, 10:06 AM   #1
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BMW M4 GTS - what are you willing to give up? 3 colors, no rear seat, 100kg reduction

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Before you contemplate on purchasing an M4 GTS. You should ask yourself do you need rear seats? Can you live with only three specific colours? Are you supportive that the roll cage will be optional and will you be ok with US GTS models forgoing something that will be available on European models but not on USA models due to legislation?

And important for Americans? Can you live without the luxuries? As you get none. If you can answer these questions then you will receive a car that best to define is all about the three i's... Individuality, intimacy and Intensity.

And on the body... Essentially around 100KG of reduction.

The BMW M4 Moto GP Safety Car is in some cases the BMW M4 GTS Concept Car if we remove the livery, keep the M Performance add ons and change the front and rear lights (Market Specific). Although a more production-ready car will be unveiled at Pebble Beach in August. And that includes Water Injection. This is the individuality aspect its not just an M4 with more performance and fancy equipment as some who will never drive it will state. It extends the possibilities of the M4 through further innovation to generate that performance and increased dynamic intensity.
Its the first step to show further possibilities in innovation that creates performance using sustainable technology.
The next phase has its genes in the BMW CSL Hommage. The clue is different cap shapes.

It is also a lesson in progress that has not reached conclusion.

More info on the M4 GTS @ http://www.bimmerpost.com/?s=m4+gts
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Before you contemplate on purchasing an M4 GTS. You should ask yourself do you need rear seats? Can you live with only three specific colours? Are you supportive that the roll cage will be optional and will you be ok with US GTS models forgoing something That will be available on European models but not on USA models due to legislation?

And important for Americans? Can you live without the luxuries? As you get none. If you can answer these questions then you will receive a car that best to define is all about the three i's... Individuality, intimacy and Intensity.
It is also a lesson in progress that has not reached conclusion.

This is the BMW for me.
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and will you be ok with US GTS models forgoing something That will be available on European models but not on USA models due to legislation?
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Before you contemplate on purchasing an M4 GTS. You should ask yourself do you need rear seats? Can you live with only three specific colours? Are you supportive that the roll cage will be optional and will you be ok with US GTS models forgoing something That will be available on European models but not on USA models due to legislation?

And important for Americans? Can you live without the luxuries? As you get none. If you can answer these questions then you will receive a car that best to define is all about the three i's... Individuality, intimacy and Intensity.
It is also a lesson in progress that has not reached conclusion.
Since non of us here will own one of these our interrests are fully aligned with yours. Arm chair bragging rights for our brand...soooo Scott, ring time estimate please
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No navigation, no stereo, rear seat delete, cage/buckets/lasers (rest of world)...

But will the cage and buckets be available to U.S. customers via dealer install?
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      06-01-2015, 01:41 PM   #6
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I wonder if the north American gts will get full engine upgrade? Maybe we won't get that due to emissions crap
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No navigation, no stereo, rear seat delete, cage/buckets/lasers (rest of world)...

But will the cage and buckets be available to U.S. customers via dealer install?
They may be available, but then the dealer could suspect that you plan to track it, and could void your warranty.
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How stripped down are we talking? like no AC stripped down? cause that would suck where I live
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Just ship the cage uninstalled from the car and let the owner decide if he wants to install it. Kind of like they did with the e36 LTW bits.
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Sounds like ROW gets those fancy OLED tails...

... I wonder how difficult to retrofit...
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      06-01-2015, 02:37 PM   #12
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Most people won't be buying the GTS as their only car
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How stripped down are we talking? like no AC stripped down? cause that would suck where I live
I think it will have AC
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I think it will have AC
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Sounds like ROW gets those fancy OLED tails...

... I wonder how difficult to retrofit...
bmw dealers cant sell the OLED lights it was a rule or something it was posted a while ago cant find the thread. but probably will be hard to get anyway and will be very expensive
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Depends if it's purpose is to be a C63S/ Porsche Turbo kind of car or a GT3 kind of car. If A nothing instead it needs more luxury as in better quality interior., audio etc. If B everything as long as it's faster than the competition around a track. No lame in between nonsense please. The M4 does that beautifully at half the price of the GTS ,thank you. But from all I heard and seen it's B we are looking at here.

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Sounds like ROW gets those fancy OLED tails...

... I wonder how difficult to retrofit...
I think Scott is implying that missing equipment will be because of regulation. Immediately I think of the laser headlights but why would OLED tails be a problem :
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Good post Scott.

....despite all the "I'm holding out for a GTS" posting around here, I really don't think more than 1% of the F82 buying public would really appreciate/want this car.

Can't wait to see it in action, though, AND I hope that at least some of the tech/plans get worked into future cars (ahem - water injection - ahem)
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I don't care about the niceties.....will it be offered with a damned third pedal?????
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The rear seats are so damn light in the f8x platform that I am surprised they bother deleting them. The e92 rear seats were heavy as crap with the fold down section being super solid and heavy. The bottom cushions were light as a feather. However the f8x fold down piece are super duper light. Same with the front seats. You get a lot of light weight stuff in the stock car this time around.

Really looking forward to seeing what they cutout to save weight especially given they are adding a cage and more engine pieces.
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Yes I want it all gone and then optioned back in ala GT350RS, or more like Porsche...
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