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      05-19-2015, 10:08 AM   #1
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How do you put the transmission in park?

Test drove the X5M and after, I was left with the complicated task of trying to figure out how to put the car in park. Couldn't figure it out - other than turning the car off an on again. Which is what you would have to do with a DCT, but this is not a DCT. Seems like the gear knob needs a P setting. Am I missing something?

And just to be clear, I am not talking about setting the parking break.
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      05-19-2015, 10:16 AM   #2
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Just use the parking brake and turn it off. There is no park.
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      05-19-2015, 10:28 AM   #3
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If it looks like this, it's not a DCT, but acts like one. Just set the brake and turn it off.
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      05-19-2015, 11:24 AM   #4
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Just use the parking brake and turn it off. There is no park.
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If it looks like this, it's not a DCT, but acts like one. Just set the brake and turn it off.
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      05-19-2015, 11:36 AM   #5
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There is no park other than shutting motor off. While its not a DCT, its programmed to act exactly like a DCT. I shut car off in gear when Ive come to a stop. This puts car in park automatically. Car wont roll. The only other option is to put car in neutral and set brake. Unnecessary if you just shut car in gear. If you want to sit in car with car still running, neutral and set brake is way to do it.
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      05-19-2015, 03:14 PM   #6
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So in another words think of it as a manual shifter
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      05-19-2015, 03:42 PM   #7
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Correct. I haven't quite worked out the pattern. Sometimes an engine shutoff goes to "P", sometimes it goes to "N" with a warning "Car will not lock from the outside! Secure vehicle from rolling!" and it takes a second press.

They've done an "interesting" job of the DCT copy, and I'm not sure I'm a fan.

For example, after coming to a full stop there is no "automatic creep". On a slight hill, the car will roll.

Tapping the gas pedal and letting go turns on "automatic creep" however.... but backing up a steep hill can prove interesting!
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      05-19-2015, 09:12 PM   #8
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Shut the car off in drive or reverse and it will shift into park.
Shut the car off in neutral with the parking break engaged and foot removed from
Brake, push the start button which will shut down the power and shift it into park.
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In all honesty, wouldn't it have just been easier to put a park button?
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      05-20-2015, 06:05 AM   #10
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It's interesting how different people react to different items. I, actually, very much like how BMW did the transmission and shifter control in the X5 M. It's quirky, and different, and fun. In one week, I've grown so accustomed to it, when I drove our other BMW yesterday, one with a "Regular" shifter, it seemed less intuitive. Perhaps, BMW should have made an option available for those who wanted the regular style shifter.
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In all honesty, wouldn't it have just been easier to put a park button?
Not really. That would be a button you have to push. Not incredibly complicated but it is an extra step. The way it works now is just come to a stop in gear and turn the car off, it goes into park.

I do agree it's counter intuitive to just turn the car off in gear but that's how it works. A manual car required for you to come to a stop with your foot on the clutch or car in neutral then turn it off.
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Not really. That would be a button you have to push. Not incredibly complicated but it is an extra step. The way it works now is just come to a stop in gear and turn the car off, it goes into park.

I do agree it's counter intuitive to just turn the car off in gear but that's how it works. A manual car required for you to come to a stop with your foot on the clutch or car in neutral then turn it off.
Pretty sure in any newer bmw you can turn the car off and it will automatically switch to park. But it's also nice having the button for valet drivers, wanting to get something from the backseat at a stop light, needing to keep the car running while you get out and get something, etc...
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Pretty sure in any newer bmw you can turn the car off and it will automatically switch to park.
Correct. Plus, on the "spaceshifter" it'll electrically "flip" back into the center position if it was in gear.

The DCT shifter will stay where it was (no big deal, unless it was in reverse).
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      05-21-2015, 01:56 AM   #14
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Exactly what everyone said, on my e46 m3 SMG, I would just throw it into neutral and throw the e-brake on. I felt like leaving the car in gear would harm it and I had to put it into neutral when starting it anyways.
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Pretty sure in any newer bmw you can turn the car off and it will automatically switch to park. But it's also nice having the button for valet drivers, wanting to get something from the backseat at a stop light, needing to keep the car running while you get out and get something, etc...
This.

Just to clarify - does this mean there is basically no way for the car to be on and in park at the same time?

I miss the park button tbh.
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yes..as previous posts says... 1. lift brake
2. DON't do anything else. car will run but stationary.
If want to turn off car then press START button.

If you want to turn off car quick way, just press start->brake auto engages.
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wow so much discussion over such a small thing!
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      06-14-2015, 07:53 PM   #18
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set your parking brake with hot rotors and you will warp the rotors.
bad advice guys.
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      06-15-2015, 05:35 PM   #19
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wow so much discussion over such a small thing!
I get what you are saying, but in everyday life, it sort of comes into play more than you would realize.

On my test drive, I had to check something in the back of the car, because I heard something flapping there. So I pulled over and was sort of dumbfounded how to leave the car safely. I ended up just turning the car off. Same thing when I returned the car to the dealer. I wanted to get out with the engine running to check the lights. Again, it was a pain and seemed so unnecessarily complex.

Why not give the car the best of both worlds if you can? The shifting competency of a DCT and the convenience of a parking setting of an auto? Leave the shiftier, just add a parking button.
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I get what you are saying, but in everyday life, it sort of comes into play more than you would realize.

On my test drive, I had to check something in the back of the car, because I heard something flapping there. So I pulled over and was sort of dumbfounded how to leave the car safely. I ended up just turning the car off. Same thing when I returned the car to the dealer. I wanted to get out with the engine running to check the lights. Again, it was a pain and seemed so unnecessarily complex.

Why not give the car the best of both worlds if you can? The shifting competency of a DCT and the convenience of a parking setting of an auto? Leave the shiftier, just add a parking button.
So if I pull into my angled driveway on a 90 degree day and want to leave my car running to stay cool while my teenage kids are in the backseat for a minute while I get something, what do I do to keep the car running without risk of rolling? Just hit the e-brake and walk away?
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      06-16-2015, 01:54 PM   #21
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So if I pull into my angled driveway on a 90 degree day and want to leave my car running to stay cool while my teenage kids are in the backseat for a minute while I get something, what do I do to keep the car running without risk of rolling? Just hit the e-brake and walk away?
Yes
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set your parking brake with hot rotors and you will warp the rotors.
bad advice guys.
If you are driving with Auto Hold on, wouldn't it always set the parking break with hot rotors at a stop? I might be confused, but I thought auto hold just engages parking break.
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