Eurocharged Houston Flash tune dyno

obriennathaniel · 05-03-2015, 03:34 PM

this is not a finalized tune, it's still being fine tuned etc, next will be the Pure Stage 2 😎

This is on 93 pump gas, no meth, and all the bolt ons in my sig.

G30 B58 · 05-03-2015, 06:31 PM

Amazing numbers for the mods you have. Must pull like a freight train.

As these get more popular, I'll have to reconsider and possibly pass on the JB4 or even a Stage 1.

ShlemonboostedM · 05-03-2015, 06:37 PM

Damn .!! That's a lot of torq .. I can't believe 17psi on pump gas ... What r ur mods ? I'm on mobile can't see your sign..

M-terkait · 05-03-2015, 06:37 PM

i have a local eurocharged dealer but the problem is mine uses pure turbo so sending ecu isn't a solution for me

s2k750 · 05-03-2015, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ShlemonboostedM

Damn .!! That's a lot of torq .. I can't believe 17psi on pump gas ... What r ur mods ? I'm on mobile can't see your sign..

meth

rickinaz · 05-03-2015, 08:31 PM

The engine will grenade soon with that boost.

Vegetable · 05-03-2015, 09:52 PM

I thought stock boost was 9 PSI?

obriennathaniel · 05-03-2015, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ShlemonboostedM

Damn .!! That's a lot of torq .. I can't believe 17psi on pump gas ... What r ur mods ? I'm on mobile can't see your sign..

ER charge pipe, ATM FMIC, AFE Momentum CAI, CG Precision cat less down pipe and catback, meth injection but the meth injection isn't being used on this dyno

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Originally Posted by s2k750

meth

Meth isn't being used on this dyno

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Originally Posted by rickinaz

The engine will grenade soon with that boost.

Lol oh, ok

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Originally Posted by Vegetable

I thought stock boost was 9 PSI?

Stock boost varies with the climate/altitude. The car targets a certain power level, not a boost level, so with the change in outside temperature air/altitude etc the boost will change.

obriennathaniel · 05-03-2015, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by M-terkait

i have a local eurocharged dealer but the problem is mine uses pure turbo so sending ecu isn't a solution for me

What do you mean? They can tune for that. They're doing this tune to see what the car can do with the stock turbo, then they're going to install the Pure Stage 2 and tune for it.

BEAR-AvHistory · 05-04-2015, 12:41 AM

Two thoughts. Torque curve looks strange compared to the power output + 450ftlbs @ 2.75rpm?

345whp seems low for 17.75 boost.

Are you running logs? Be interesting to see the advance curve for any timing pulls.

Bee Pee · 05-04-2015, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by BEAR-AvHistory

Two thoughts. Torque curve looks strange compared to the power output + 450ftlbs @ 2.75rpm?

345whp seems low for 17.75 boost.

Looking at the curves, max boost of 17.5+ psi occurs at low rpm only hence torque peak in lower rpm range.

At max HP RPM range ie circa 5.5k RPM, boost is much lower ie <13psi.

Assume timing and or AFR are governing boost profile.

PeterPure · 05-04-2015, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Bee Pee

Quote:

Originally Posted by BEAR-AvHistory

Two thoughts. Torque curve looks strange compared to the power output + 450ftlbs @ 2.75rpm?

345whp seems low for 17.75 boost.

Looking at the curves, max boost of 17.5+ psi occurs at low rpm only hence torque peak in lower rpm range.

At max HP RPM range ie circa 5.5k RPM, boost is much lower ie <13psi.

Assume timing and or AFR are governing boost profile.

It would be nice if max boost was mentioned in the graph.

But i was thinking the same as you. Max boost at low rpm. Drops off from there. Just the same what i experienced trying to have mine flashed.

Stage2 flash only tune on F series will not bring you much. I bet you some belgian beer for it that you wont get over 400whp flash only.

M-terkait · 05-04-2015, 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by obriennathaniel

What do you mean? They can tune for that. They're doing this tune to see what the car can do with the stock turbo, then they're going to install the Pure Stage 2 and tune for it.

i mean my local dealer said he can't bench flash and he needs to send it to eurocharged HQ.

obriennathaniel · 05-04-2015, 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by BEAR-AvHistory

Two thoughts. Torque curve looks strange compared to the power output + 450ftlbs @ 2.75rpm?

345whp seems low for 17.75 boost.

Are you running logs? Be interesting to see the advance curve for any timing pulls.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bee Pee

Looking at the curves, max boost of 17.5+ psi occurs at low rpm only hence torque peak in lower rpm range.

At max HP RPM range ie circa 5.5k RPM, boost is much lower ie <13psi.

Assume timing and or AFR are governing boost profile.

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Originally Posted by Darkhold

It would be nice if max boost was mentioned in the graph.

But i was thinking the same as you. Max boost at low rpm. Drops off from there. Just the same what i experienced trying to have mine flashed.

Stage2 flash only tune on F series will not bring you much. I bet you some belgian beer for it that you wont get over 400whp flash only.

Yea I'm not getting my hopes up, im sure there's a way to fix all that, just hasn't been found. I don't know much about tuning but I do think the boost is based off of the AFR. I've been in Vegas this whole time my car has been in the shop so I havnt been there to pull logs etc, I'm sure there are timing issues though.

Krelle · 05-04-2015, 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkhold

It would be nice if max boost was mentioned in the graph.

But i was thinking the same as you. Max boost at low rpm. Drops off from there. Just the same what i experienced trying to have mine flashed.

Stage2 flash only tune on F series will not bring you much. I bet you some belgian beer for it that you wont get over 400whp flash only.

How much beer? I want in on the bet

PeterPure · 05-04-2015, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Krelle

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkhold

It would be nice if max boost was mentioned in the graph.

But i was thinking the same as you. Max boost at low rpm. Drops off from there. Just the same what i experienced trying to have mine flashed.

Stage2 flash only tune on F series will not bring you much. I bet you some belgian beer for it that you wont get over 400whp flash only.

How much beer? I want in on the bet

Depends which beer you want to bet for

PeterPure · 05-04-2015, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by obriennathaniel

Quote:

Originally Posted by BEAR-AvHistory

Two thoughts. Torque curve looks strange compared to the power output + 450ftlbs @ 2.75rpm?

345whp seems low for 17.75 boost.

Are you running logs? Be interesting to see the advance curve for any timing pulls.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bee Pee

Looking at the curves, max boost of 17.5+ psi occurs at low rpm only hence torque peak in lower rpm range.

At max HP RPM range ie circa 5.5k RPM, boost is much lower ie <13psi.

Assume timing and or AFR are governing boost profile.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkhold

It would be nice if max boost was mentioned in the graph.

But i was thinking the same as you. Max boost at low rpm. Drops off from there. Just the same what i experienced trying to have mine flashed.

Stage2 flash only tune on F series will not bring you much. I bet you some belgian beer for it that you wont get over 400whp flash only.

Yea I'm not getting my hopes up, im sure there's a way to fix all that, just hasn't been found. I don't know much about tuning but I do think the boost is based off of the AFR. I've been in Vegas this whole time my car has been in the shop so I havnt been there to pull logs etc, I'm sure there are timing issues though.

I appreciate you trying. Its indeed a matter of time before the limiters are found. And if we dont try we will never find them.

BEAR-AvHistory · 05-04-2015, 10:13 AM

Still skeptical of that much torque but if it is front loaded you will have a major problem launching the car if you are drag racing with it.

Most of us with tunes dropped the boost (limited max PSI) in 1st & 2nd gears.

Personally with a 7DCT I started in 2nd at the drag strip because 1st was too strong for the tires. My boost in upper mid range was a bit over 18psi in a N54 without timing pulls on 100 octane fuel.

FWIW all Terry's record runs were second gear starts.

Sample of trying to run 93 on the 100 map. Could run the 100 map with a 93/100 mix.

Purple line is ignition advance, you can see the major pull, attempted recovery then another pull. Wish I had saved more of my pictures, logs etc from the 335is but I needed the space when I started to build the Cobra & the 435 was not going to be modified.

CG Precision · 05-04-2015, 11:52 AM

This is awesome, Nathaniel! Congrats!

It sure does help having that huge 3.5" DR-1 to VS-1 mandrel connection. We want to see some record breaking numbers soon!

obriennathaniel · 05-08-2015, 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkhold

It would be nice if max boost was mentioned in the graph.

But i was thinking the same as you. Max boost at low rpm. Drops off from there. Just the same what i experienced trying to have mine flashed.

Stage2 flash only tune on F series will not bring you much. I bet you some belgian beer for it that you wont get over 400whp flash only.

The boost is at the bottom of the DYNO, If I drank beer I'd take that bet tho! Lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkhold

I appreciate you trying. Its indeed a matter of time before the limiters are found. And if we dont try we will never find them.

Exactly! I have two vehicles so I'm just letting them play around with my BMW as long as they need too.

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Originally Posted by BEAR-AvHistory

Still skeptical of that much torque but if it is front loaded you will have a major problem launching the car if you are drag racing with it.

Most of us with tunes dropped the boost (limited max PSI) in 1st & 2nd gears.

Personally with a 7DCT I started in 2nd at the drag strip because 1st was too strong for the tires. My boost in upper mid range was a bit over 18psi in a N54 without timing pulls on 100 octane fuel.

FWIW all Terry's record runs were second gear starts.

Sample of trying to run 93 on the 100 map. Could run the 100 map with a 93/100 mix.

Purple line is ignition advance, you can see the major pull, attempted recovery then another pull. Wish I had saved more of my pictures, logs etc from the 335is but I needed the space when I started to build the Cobra & the 435 was not going to be modified.

Good info dude! I basically told them, beat the JB4 dyno and you will be world renowned lol they say they've out performed jb4's all the time so I'm intrigued.

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Originally Posted by CG Precision

This is awesome, Nathaniel! Congrats!

It sure does help having that huge 3.5" DR-1 to VS-1 mandrel connection. We want to see some record breaking numbers soon!

Haha hell yea it does!!! I'll do my best! Them and they're customers have all said they LOVE the exhaust so thumbs up to yall!

R32DBP · 05-08-2015, 09:46 AM

Interested for more info on the flash. I have a '14 335i so would there be different performance on mine due to the larger DP flange and electronic WG? I didn't even know flashing the ECU was available already I still thought they were locked up so this is great news. I too have a local eurocharged dealer so can't wait to hear more info!

shivaswrath · 05-08-2015, 12:38 PM

Why not do the Pure2 first and then tune?

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