New Diverter Valve by ECS tuning? Should i upgrade?

AWDBooSTIn90 · 04-30-2015, 09:10 AM

So it seems like theres a new option for someone that wants to run stock style DV charge ppie and use the stock DV's with this upgrade

http://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E92-335....0L/ES2864864/

Maybe im not understanding this parts purpose?

I still have stock charge pipe and stock DV's. Havent really had a problem, but my plan was to upgrade to a metal charge pipe with a single Tial BOV.

I have a N54 6MT btw.

But i like to keep things oem unless theres a benefit to upgrading. Such as reliability, power, easier service, or longer lasting.

What is this upgrade theyre selling exactly?

The way they describe it, these DV's only open as much as needed while oem is either closed or open fully. With the upgrade comes better throttle response. Plus i know the stock DV's are known to leak. So this seems like a win-win. Plus its somewhat cheap.

Anyone have opinions?

ef11 · 04-30-2015, 09:26 AM

I'm running a VRSF CP with stock DV, I've always wondered what type of leaking I am having. Especially after reading the Mod Bargains page about losing 29ft/lbs of torque due to leaky DVs (google if you want, I can't post the link).

If for $135 it would fix boost leak and increase throttle response, definitely worth it. I'm unclear on how this part would work though. Do you have to buy two of them for both DVs? Or do you close one DV outlet on the chargepipe and only use one? Hopefully others know.

Welcome to NBA Jam · 04-30-2015, 09:33 AM

Looks like it exists for the N55 as well:

http://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E92-335....0L/ES2864864/

AWDBooSTIn90 · 04-30-2015, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ericfox11

I'm running a VRSF CP with stock DV, I've always wondered what type of leaking I am having. Especially after reading the Mod Bargains page about losing 29ft/lbs of torque due to leaky DVs (google if you want, I can't post the link).

If for $135 it would fix boost leak and increase throttle response, definitely worth it. I'm unclear on how this part would work though. Do you have to buy two of them for both DVs? Or do you close one DV outlet on the chargepipe and only use one? Hopefully others know.

That's exactly what im trying to find out. It would seem like you would need two. One for each DV.

The link I provided is for N54.

I thought N55 didn't use a DV on the charge pipe??

Welcome to NBA Jam · 04-30-2015, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by AWDBooSTIn90

I thought N55 didn't use a DV on the charge pipe??

You replace the factory DV on the turbo housing with this instead.

If it's not too difficult to access, this would be a great mod.

Gizm0 · 04-30-2015, 10:10 AM

This is only for the N55

Underground6t9 · 04-30-2015, 10:53 AM

I'm running forge black DV's with charge pipe.

mg4734 · 04-30-2015, 11:13 AM

My mind is spinning trying to figure out where that would go on an N54 charge pipe, that can't be a part for an N54 (would be sold in pairs, seem like it can attach to the pipe with those screws, etc). Looks like it's for N55 given the picture above

ef11 · 04-30-2015, 11:17 AM

Yes I agree that it looks like it's only for N55. I was wondering what the screws were for, doesn't look like it would work on our CP. Man, having the DV right on the turbo seems like a good design, but I don't know a lot about it.

ECS should not be branding this for N54 as they are in the OPs link.

BeastMode335i · 04-30-2015, 11:21 AM

Hmm is diverter calve and diverter valve the same thing?

gtaccord · 04-30-2015, 11:57 AM

Definitely N55 only. No part like that on the N54.

OP3NAIR · 04-30-2015, 02:02 PM

Is this a product in search of a problem? I havent seen too many issues of torn diaphragms on these cars.

I know from experience it was a huge problem with VW electronic valves. So much so that they redesigned into to be a piston valve and the problem went away. I've wondered in the VW valve would just bolt right on and be electronically compatable, but havent had the chance to compare. I have a VW valve in my garage somewhere though...

335xMD · 04-30-2015, 02:38 PM

I'm going to be upgrading my CP and have also been considering replacing the stock DVs & tubing. I'm going to try to keep things relatively subtle (ie mostly black bolt-on upgrades), as well. I'll probably end up with one of the DV upgrades from Turbosmart or Forge Motorsport...

Gizm0 · 04-30-2015, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 335xMD

I'm going to be upgrading my CP and have also been considering replacing the stock DVs & tubing. I'm going to try to keep things relatively subtle (ie mostly black bolt-on upgrades), as well. I'll probably end up with one of the DV upgrades from Turbosmart or Forge Motorsport...

Not talking about the same thing here...

335xMD · 04-30-2015, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Gizm0

Not talking about the same thing here...

my bad

335xMD · 04-30-2015, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gizm0

This is only for the N55

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Originally Posted by gtaccord

Definitely N55 only. No part like that on the N54.

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Originally Posted by mg4734

My mind is spinning trying to figure out where that would go on an N54 charge pipe, that can't be a part for an N54 (would be sold in pairs, seem like it can attach to the pipe with those screws, etc). Looks like it's for N55 given the picture above

Wow well I was totally ignorant of this difference between the n54/55 (obviously...)

For others who want a brief synopsis of the rationale behind the upgraded DV (apparently just for N55!):
http://www.gfb.com.au/tech/tech-arti...t9351-tech-tip

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ECSTuning · 05-01-2015, 11:20 AM

We've been getting tons of great feedback on the Go Fast Bits (GFB) DV upgrades so far. Definitely a great option for those running high boost levels, or that just want a DV that isn't going to fail over time!

Also guys please note these are an N55 upgrade, these are not for the N54. We had an application error on our site that has been fixed.

-James

335NJ · 05-01-2015, 12:38 PM

FWIW, I've read and heard some great things about GFB.

AWDBooSTIn90 · 05-01-2015, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ECSTuning

We've been getting tons of great feedback on the Go Fast Bits (GFB) DV upgrades so far. Definitely a great option for those running high boost levels, or that just want a DV that isn't going to fail over time!

Also guys please note these are an N55 upgrade, these are not for the N54. We had an application error on our site that has been fixed.

-James

Yes that's what it was, website error that listed this part being compatible with the N54. Which is not the case.

Looks like a good upgrade for the N55 guys.

But after posting this thread I learned something new about the N55 DV setup. And I agree with the posters above. The N55 setup is cleaner, more direct, and less parts to fail. Very good design IMHO.

SIDE NOTE: stock N54 DV's are known to leak boost pressure back into the intake tract. So a DV upgrade, either stock style or whole new A/M BOV setup is worth it for those with leaking OEM N54 diverter valves.

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AWDBooSTIn90 Nomore 149 Rep 793 Posts Drives: 335i Coupe 6MT N54 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Long Island iTrader: (1)	New Diverter Valve by ECS tuning? Should i upgrade? So it seems like theres a new option for someone that wants to run stock style DV charge ppie and use the stock DV's with this upgrade http://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E92-335....0L/ES2864864/ Maybe im not understanding this parts purpose? I still have stock charge pipe and stock DV's. Havent really had a problem, but my plan was to upgrade to a metal charge pipe with a single Tial BOV. I have a N54 6MT btw. But i like to keep things oem unless theres a benefit to upgrading. Such as reliability, power, easier service, or longer lasting. What is this upgrade theyre selling exactly? The way they describe it, these DV's only open as much as needed while oem is either closed or open fully. With the upgrade comes better throttle response. Plus i know the stock DV's are known to leak. So this seems like a win-win. Plus its somewhat cheap. Anyone have opinions?
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ef11 Captain 50 Rep 609 Posts Drives: 2009 335i Sedan M-Sport Join Date: May 2012 Location: Tyler, Texas iTrader: (0)	I'm running a VRSF CP with stock DV, I've always wondered what type of leaking I am having. Especially after reading the Mod Bargains page about losing 29ft/lbs of torque due to leaky DVs (google if you want, I can't post the link). If for $135 it would fix boost leak and increase throttle response, definitely worth it. I'm unclear on how this part would work though. Do you have to buy two of them for both DVs? Or do you close one DV outlet on the chargepipe and only use one? Hopefully others know.
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mg4734 Lieutenant 28 Rep 409 Posts Drives: 2009 335i M-Sport Coupe Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Illinois iTrader: (2)	My mind is spinning trying to figure out where that would go on an N54 charge pipe, that can't be a part for an N54 (would be sold in pairs, seem like it can attach to the pipe with those screws, etc). Looks like it's for N55 given the picture above __________________ 2009 E92 335i M-Sport - MHD Stage One - BMW Performance Exhaust - BMS Oil Catch Can - CDV Delete - K&N Panel Filter - Arc Angel H8 bulbs - Gloss Black Kidney Grills - Painted Reflectors - VRSF Charge Pipe
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ef11 Captain 50 Rep 609 Posts Drives: 2009 335i Sedan M-Sport Join Date: May 2012 Location: Tyler, Texas iTrader: (0)	Yes I agree that it looks like it's only for N55. I was wondering what the screws were for, doesn't look like it would work on our CP. Man, having the DV right on the turbo seems like a good design, but I don't know a lot about it. ECS should not be branding this for N54 as they are in the OPs link.
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gtaccord Major 56 Rep 1,464 Posts Drives: 2009 BMW 335xi Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Maryland iTrader: (7) Garage List 2009 BMW 335i xdrive [0.00]	Definitely N55 only. No part like that on the N54.
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ECSTuning New Lifetime Replacement Policy 818 Rep 11,738 Posts Drives: Independent Tuning Specialists Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Ohio iTrader: (18)	We've been getting tons of great feedback on the Go Fast Bits (GFB) DV upgrades so far. Definitely a great option for those running high boost levels, or that just want a DV that isn't going to fail over time! Also guys please note these are an N55 upgrade, these are not for the N54. We had an application error on our site that has been fixed. -James
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