Pandora Car Alarm System
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   BMW M3 and BMW M4 Forum > BMW F80 M3 / F82 M4 Technical Topics > Cosmetic Maintenance (Wash/Wax/Detailing/Exterior Restoration & Repairs)

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      04-26-2015, 08:05 PM   #1
TuckerM3
New Member
TuckerM3's Avatar
7
Rep
16
Posts

Drives: 2015 M3
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Newtown, PA

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Excessive chipping on side skirts and quarters

I am having a problem with paint chipping from what appears to be rocks/debris coming off the tires and hitting the side skirts and rear quarter wheel flares. My car just went over 1000 miles and it is starting to look really bad. On the rear quarters the paint damage is really evident just above the factory protective film. It looks like it is slowly getting sand blasted. My car is black so it is just that much easier to see the damage. I can't imagine what this is going to look like after a few thousand miles.

I told my dealer about it at my first service and they said a BMW rep will need to look at it. What is the chance that BMW will do anything about this? It is not like it is a stray rock hitting the car. It clearly looks like a defect either with my paint or the design of the car. Is anyone else experiencing this problem?
Appreciate 0
      04-27-2015, 03:11 AM   #2
AYTifosi
Captain
AYTifosi's Avatar
United_States
442
Rep
601
Posts

Drives: 2015 M4
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Redmond, WA

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2015 BMW F82 M4  [10.00]
I would be surprised if there was a paint defect and BMW did anything. If you're on the freeway a lot, particularly where there is are cement barriers on one side of the lane you are in. The small stones fly up and ricochet off the wall. Where do you mostly drive? Freeway? Side streets?

You could maybe see about getting a clear wrap over those panels, ASAP.
__________________
2015 AY M4
Appreciate 0
      04-27-2015, 06:05 AM   #3
TuckerM3
New Member
TuckerM3's Avatar
7
Rep
16
Posts

Drives: 2015 M3
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Newtown, PA

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marlonf1 View Post
I would be surprised if there was a paint defect and BMW did anything. If you're on the freeway a lot, particularly where there is are cement barriers on one side of the lane you are in. The small stones fly up and ricochet off the wall. Where do you mostly drive? Freeway? Side streets?

You could maybe see about getting a clear wrap over those panels, ASAP.
Driving is mixed but mostly back roads. I did buy the car in March when the roads were covered in sand and gravel from the snow. I have never had this happen to a car though. I can constantly hear things get kicked up from the sticky tires and either hitting the underside or sides of the car. The only place damage is occurring is the surfaces that are exposed to the front tires. I really do not want to pay to get both sides of the car wrapped.
Appreciate 0
      04-27-2015, 07:07 AM   #4
Shawn Dover
Enlisted Member
19
Rep
47
Posts

Drives: 2013 335
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: VA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by TuckerM3 View Post
I am having a problem with paint chipping from what appears to be rocks/debris coming off the tires and hitting the side skirts and rear quarter wheel flares. My car just went over 1000 miles and it is starting to look really bad. On the rear quarters the paint damage is really evident just above the factory protective film. It looks like it is slowly getting sand blasted. My car is black so it is just that much easier to see the damage. I can't imagine what this is going to look like after a few thousand miles.

I told my dealer about it at my first service and they said a BMW rep will need to look at it. What is the chance that BMW will do anything about this? It is not like it is a stray rock hitting the car. It clearly looks like a defect either with my paint or the design of the car. Is anyone else experiencing this problem?
Can you post a picture of where on the rear quarter flares you're getting chips?
Appreciate 0
      04-27-2015, 09:58 AM   #5
TuckerM3
New Member
TuckerM3's Avatar
7
Rep
16
Posts

Drives: 2015 M3
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Newtown, PA

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Most of the spots look to be clear coat damage. I think I am beyond putting protective film on. The factory film is already beat up. Both sides look the same.







This one is of the door edge behind the front tire. It is actually damaging the door more than the rocker panel.

Appreciate 0
      04-27-2015, 11:07 AM   #6
robbys3m3
Lieutenant Colonel
1941
Rep
1,552
Posts

Drives: M3's
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Tulsa, OK

iTrader: (1)

sorry to see this. after only 200 miles I had a few similar chips, so I went ahead and touched them up and applied large spots of PPF around that area. Unfortunately I think the car is just prone to throwing stuff up right there.
__________________
2020 M2 CS, 2018 M3 CS, 2016 M4 GTS, 2013 M3 LRP, 2011 1M, 2011 M3 GTRS3, 2004 M3, 2002 M3, 2000 M Coupe, 2002 M5, 1997 M3, 1988 M3, 2022 STO, 2020 Urus, 2022 TRX, 2022 392, 2021 SVJ, 2018 Performante, 2013 Gallardo 550-2, 2012 Gallardo STS, 2018 R8 RWS, 2012 R8, 2017 G550 4X4^2, 2015 GT3, 2015 Continental GT3R, 1971 Bronco
Appreciate 0
      04-27-2015, 11:31 AM   #7
Viking123
Private First Class
Viking123's Avatar
United_States
44
Rep
189
Posts

Drives: 2015 M3
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: NJ

iTrader: (0)

Do you have spacers? Or wheels with aggressive offsets? That would cause more rocks to get thrown...
Appreciate 0
      04-27-2015, 03:06 PM   #8
TuckerM3
New Member
TuckerM3's Avatar
7
Rep
16
Posts

Drives: 2015 M3
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Newtown, PA

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by Viking123 View Post
Do you have spacers? Or wheels with aggressive offsets? That would cause more rocks to get thrown...
The car is completely stock with 19" 437 Wheels and MPSS tires.

The closer I look at the car the part of the rocker panel inside the front wheel well is all beat up and is missing the paint and the lip of the rear bumper inside the rear wheel well is the same.
Appreciate 0
      04-27-2015, 03:44 PM   #9
TuckerM3
New Member
TuckerM3's Avatar
7
Rep
16
Posts

Drives: 2015 M3
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Newtown, PA

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Both the rocker panel and rear bumper have a lot of pitting in the plastic

Front Rocker



Rear Bumper

Appreciate 0
      04-29-2015, 11:09 AM   #10
Dalko43
Captain
172
Rep
894
Posts

Drives: 2011 Toyota 4Runner Trail
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Upstate NY

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
It's a car....drive it!
__________________
Current: 2011 Toyota 4Runner Trail
Sold: 2013 BMW 335is Coupe
Appreciate 4
aBMWfan1192.50
mrkmtchll285.00
      04-29-2015, 07:32 PM   #11
dtronics
Lieutenant
dtronics's Avatar
381
Rep
477
Posts

Drives: G80 /// M50i /// 964 C2
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Providence, RI

iTrader: (1)

Do you have any pictures of that show the damaged areas from further away? I'd like to see what areas are having problems so I can have film installed on those spots.
Appreciate 0
      04-29-2015, 07:39 PM   #12
Mark's M
Lieutenant Colonel
Mark's M's Avatar
Canada
615
Rep
1,820
Posts

Drives: 2016 M3 Individual
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Stoney Creek, ON

iTrader: (3)

Quote:
Originally Posted by TuckerM3 View Post
The car is completely stock with 19" 437 Wheels and MPSS tires.

The closer I look at the car the part of the rocker panel inside the front wheel well is all beat up and is missing the paint and the lip of the rear bumper inside the rear wheel well is the same.
Lots of sympathy, been through this with my X5 and with Carbon Black paint it resulted in a look exactly like yours. I was praying this wouldn't be an issue with the M3 but it definately is.
__________________
2016 Individual Silverlake/Amaro M3 Conceived by ///M
Appreciate 0
      04-29-2015, 09:37 PM   #13
TuckerM3
New Member
TuckerM3's Avatar
7
Rep
16
Posts

Drives: 2015 M3
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Newtown, PA

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by dtronics View Post
Do you have any pictures of that show the damaged areas from further away? I'd like to see what areas are having problems so I can have film installed on those spots.
I don't. You would need to wrap the entire rocker and 8" up the door. You would also need to remove the factory film on the quarter panel flare and install an new piece the goes 6" higher and starts inside the door and wraps around to the rear tire well. The rear bumper would also need to be protected behind the rear wheel well.
Appreciate 0
      04-30-2015, 12:37 AM   #14
Mario_Kart
Captain
Canada
398
Rep
732
Posts

Drives: 328
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: BC

iTrader: (1)

http://www.xpel.com/products/paint_p...ake=4&model=69

I took a look on xpel website 2 weeks ago and looked at it again today. Seems like they have all the templetes for the M3 now.


Anyways, I used the same PSS tires on my Interlagos Blue M5 and didn't have any paint chips from the tires at all. Could this be a problem with the black paint?
Appreciate 0
      04-30-2015, 02:41 AM   #15
AYTifosi
Captain
AYTifosi's Avatar
United_States
442
Rep
601
Posts

Drives: 2015 M4
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Redmond, WA

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2015 BMW F82 M4  [10.00]
Boy that really sucks. I know in the winter time there are a lot more stones on the roads - that looks like it's getting sand blasted. Getting a clear bra on those areas might protect it from further damage but doesn't solve the issue. And, they'll get chewed up fast. If others aren't reporting that, there has to be something on the route you take?
__________________
2015 AY M4
Appreciate 0
      04-30-2015, 03:30 AM   #16
stranger
Captain
United Kingdom
235
Rep
982
Posts

Drives: BMW M3
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: London

iTrader: (0)

Was planning to have the front of the car done along with part of the bonnet and roof

will now look into getting the rocker panels covered and the rear fender as I plan on going with more aggressive wheels
Appreciate 0
      04-30-2015, 10:04 AM   #17
Mr. Hankey
Christmas Poo
Mr. Hankey's Avatar
892
Rep
1,100
Posts

Drives: '18 GT3, Ex F80x2
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: New England

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mario_Kart View Post
http://www.xpel.com/products/paint_p...ake=4&model=69

I took a look on xpel website 2 weeks ago and looked at it again today. Seems like they have all the templetes for the M3 now.


Anyways, I used the same PSS tires on my Interlagos Blue M5 and didn't have any paint chips from the tires at all. Could this be a problem with the black paint?
Xpel does have templates, I had the entire rocker panel done in Xpel and they wrapped the entire front of the flare on each side of the rear quarter panels as well as the bottom part of the back wheel well/bottom 3 inches of the bumper cover. The front of the quarter panel part goes almost to the peak of the wheel well
Appreciate 0
      04-30-2015, 10:48 AM   #18
TuckerM3
New Member
TuckerM3's Avatar
7
Rep
16
Posts

Drives: 2015 M3
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Newtown, PA

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marlonf1 View Post
Boy that really sucks. I know in the winter time there are a lot more stones on the roads - that looks like it's getting sand blasted. Getting a clear bra on those areas might protect it from further damage but doesn't solve the issue. And, they'll get chewed up fast. If others aren't reporting that, there has to be something on the route you take?
I called an Xpel installer yesterday and he said he had an F80 M3 come in a few weeks ago with the same problem. He could not cover the rocker lip from all the damage but did the rest of the rocker for him.

I guess the cinder and sand that they drop around here for snow is causing this. There are big piles of it everywhere.
Appreciate 0
      04-30-2015, 10:58 AM   #19
TuckerM3
New Member
TuckerM3's Avatar
7
Rep
16
Posts

Drives: 2015 M3
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Newtown, PA

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by rhk118 View Post
Xpel does have templates, I had the entire rocker panel done in Xpel and they wrapped the entire front of the flare on each side of the rear quarter panels as well as the bottom part of the back wheel well/bottom 3 inches of the bumper cover. The front of the quarter panel part goes almost to the peak of the wheel well
I didn't realize you could buy the kits yourself. Hmm...I wonder how difficult this would be? I used to tint my own windows.
Appreciate 0
      04-30-2015, 11:01 AM   #20
Mr. Hankey
Christmas Poo
Mr. Hankey's Avatar
892
Rep
1,100
Posts

Drives: '18 GT3, Ex F80x2
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: New England

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by TuckerM3 View Post
I didn't realize you could buy the kits yourself. Hmm...I wonder how difficult this would be? I used to tint my own windows.
I had this done by an installer, but they have a template for the parts so can custom cutout using Xpel ultimate at least
Appreciate 0
      04-30-2015, 11:07 AM   #21
gambri
New Member
0
Rep
13
Posts

Drives: 2015 F82 SO/Black 2015 428i
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: NJ

iTrader: (0)

i have the same exact rock chips on the side skirts right behind the wheel wells
Appreciate 0
      05-02-2015, 09:35 AM   #22
Gnewman
New Member
Gnewman's Avatar
Canada
0
Rep
6
Posts

Drives: 2015 M4 coupe (F82) tanzanite
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Alberta Canada

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2015 M4  [0.00]
I have the same problem on my M 4 I spoke to the dealer and they say they have not seen the problem before. I purchase the appearance package that included the installation of 3M on the front and mirrors but did not include the area on the lower plastic panel just in front of the rear wheels where the paint is severely damages in just 2000km. If this was a problem they were aware of the 3M application should have included these vulnerable areas. I intend to continue to Persue this with the dealer and if necessary with BMW Canada.
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:45 AM.




f80post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST