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      02-01-2008, 03:22 PM   #1
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Fitting new tyres tomorrow

Michelin Pilot Sport Cup + going on her - its time for fun!
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      02-01-2008, 03:24 PM   #2
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Are you 'track'ing it?
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      02-01-2008, 03:36 PM   #3
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Are you 'track'ing it?
In the spring yes, but I wanted to fit tyres now cause I wanted to see what they will be like in our Blighty weather.

I have spoken at length with Michelin about the pros and cons. The tread depth is 4mm and then with the two types of tread patten, will make for some interesting handling in damp conditions. Michelin did say that these tyres are significantly better than those that were made for E46 csl - especially in the wet and it says that in their blurb too - which is why they are being offered as a tyre for the new M3. BUT of course one will have to take it steady in the wet - which you do on the road anyway.

They did also confirm that with these tyres on the M3 lapped the ring 10 seconds faster than the standard fitment.

There are not many of these tyres available in UK so I going for it.

I'll take some photos of the tyres before they get fitted and post them.
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      02-01-2008, 03:43 PM   #4
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Don't you think there would be an issue around breaking hard in the wet in an emergency?
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      02-01-2008, 04:06 PM   #5
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Don't you think there would be an issue around breaking hard in the wet in an emergency?
An interesting question. I would hope not given that these tyres are star rated by michelin - meaning "fit for road use."

I owned an EVO 8 a while back and it was fitted with some Yokohama Advans from new (which you could not replace once they wore out!!), and these were virtually slick tyres. In the wet they were very good.

My point is that I hope the michelins will be even better - the tread pattern is very interesting, allowing for water dispersal on the inside and then super dry grip on the outside.

If though they prove too dangerous, then i'll be swapping back to the originals until the spring track days!
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Let us know how they perform in the wet when you get them. Cheers.
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      02-01-2008, 04:42 PM   #7
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Aquaplaning would be my only real concern, especially at corners. Tread carefully mate as I would hate for something to go a miss.
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Link below makes for interesting reading:

http://www.michelin.co.uk/uk/front/a...odeRubrique=43

Will let you know - especially as tomorrow will be cold and wet!
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Are the E92 M3 OEM 18s and 19s wearing the same tyres?
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      02-02-2008, 03:51 PM   #10
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Got the tyres fitted today and attach pics of rear pilot sport that came off and then new rear and front.

Today has been dry and cold (max 5.5 deg C). I have done 65 miles. My initial impressions:

1) Less noise (have driven on A, B and motorway)
2) The car "feels" stuck to the road
3) turn in from the front is precise and track well, whereas the sports sometimes pushed a bit
4) the rear feels like they are "digging" in when coming out of corners
5) I went round my favourite roundabout and floored it in second with all safety gizmos on and the intervention was less than with sports, telling me even with the low temp there is more grip

Clearly, the big test comes when it is wet and I will update on that when the opportunity arises (tomorrow according to forecast).

When the tyres were fitted I had a good look at them. The fronts seem to have wider tread pattern then sports, which gives me faith in wet ability. They felt really sticky too. On the car they look the absolute nuts.

So, I very happy considering the cold conditions. Goodness only knows what they will be like when it gets warmer!?
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      02-02-2008, 06:34 PM   #11
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Got the tyres fitted today...
Wonder how many kms you'll get out of those? Got to be a very expensive tire for normal use.
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Good post.

I wonder the same as Greg. Do you have pics of the tires on the car?
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Good post.

I wonder the same as Greg. Do you have pics of the tires on the car?
Thanks

I am taking advantage of the fact I don't have to pay for my tyres.

I will take picture and post.
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I am taking advantage of the fact I don't have to pay for my tyres.
Don't tell us you won some kind of all you can use tires during the lifetime of your ownership kind of deal in a lottery?
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Don't tell us you won some kind of all you can use tires during the lifetime of your ownership kind of deal in a lottery?
If only
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An interesting question. I would hope not given that these tyres are star rated by michelin - meaning "fit for road use."

I owned an EVO 8 a while back and it was fitted with some Yokohama Advans from new (which you could not replace once they wore out!!), and these were virtually slick tyres. In the wet they were very good.

My point is that I hope the michelins will be even better - the tread pattern is very interesting, allowing for water dispersal on the inside and then super dry grip on the outside.

If though they prove too dangerous, then i'll be swapping back to the originals until the spring track days!
Sounds like a nice set of tyres
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Are you changing the camber?
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      02-04-2008, 04:11 PM   #18
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Are you changing the camber?
Good Question. I had not thought of this. My initial answer is no - due to the profile of the tyres being same as ones they replaced, but I might look into this further.
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I have been reading of this and all the sources I have read said that when "tracking" it would be best with negative camber. But since I have never done this I have no idea of how easy it is to change the camber to negative and then back to neutral. Maybe someone else on this board can fill us in better.
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Thanks for the photos 1198r.

Do you by any chance have a pic of your old front tyres? Im interested in comparing wear on the outside of the fronts...
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The first photo is of the old tire
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Thanks for the photos 1198r.

Do you by any chance have a pic of your old front tyres? Im interested in comparing wear on the outside of the fronts...
I will take picture and post for you
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