weird rules

magic77 · 03-09-2015, 03:18 AM

So its a given that if car has xenons that it needs self leveling and headlight washers and all OEM cars come with this.

Test drove new 5 door mini this weekend. It comes with LED headlights but unlike 4 series they use projectors lense same as xenons. Very suprised to find no headlight wash on the car. Seems not needed.

Considering the light intensity you would think the rule would apply looks like loophole in the system

MWA · 03-09-2015, 03:22 AM

If I am correct, cars in the US with xenons, they don't come with xenons washers as standard like UK spec cars

Tengocity · 03-09-2015, 03:22 AM

You're correct, the rules are different regarding the washer system. I believe it's due to how the two systems work and the effect of dirt on how the xenon beam projects.

magic77 · 03-09-2015, 03:29 AM

I can understand with the M4 / M3 type LED lights and the use of reflectors (aka halogen style) setup. But with Projectors the beam must be similar output.

Just weird and probably usual EU rules playing catchup. IMO better as how many times have owners had the washer system pop / break due to freezing temps etc.

03-09-2015, 03:18 AM	#1
magic77 Brigadier General 258 Rep 3,815 Posts Drives: ex- 335i Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Surrey iTrader: (2)	weird rules So its a given that if car has xenons that it needs self leveling and headlight washers and all OEM cars come with this. Test drove new 5 door mini this weekend. It comes with LED headlights but unlike 4 series they use projectors lense same as xenons. Very suprised to find no headlight wash on the car. Seems not needed. Considering the light intensity you would think the rule would apply looks like loophole in the system __________________ F30 335i M Sport - now departed
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MWA Major 154 Rep 1,224 Posts Drives: AY M4 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: London iTrader: (0)	If I am correct, cars in the US with xenons, they don't come with xenons washers as standard like UK spec cars
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Tengocity General 8567 Rep 19,982 Posts Drives: 911, Cayenne Turbo, Disco 4 Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Crieff, Perthshire, Scotland iTrader: (0)	You're correct, the rules are different regarding the washer system. I believe it's due to how the two systems work and the effect of dirt on how the xenon beam projects. __________________ Current: Porsche 911 991 C4S, Porsche Cayenne Turbo, Land Rover Discovery 4. Gone...G01 X3 M40i, Cayman S 987, F31 340i, Cayman GT4, F82 M4 CP, Lotus Exige V6, G20 330e, F30 330e, Boxster S 987, F31 335d, Mini Cooper SD, E89 Z4, E90 330d 320d, E60 520d, E46 330d 320d, MX5s, E30 325i
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magic77 Brigadier General 258 Rep 3,815 Posts Drives: ex- 335i Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Surrey iTrader: (2)	I can understand with the M4 / M3 type LED lights and the use of reflectors (aka halogen style) setup. But with Projectors the beam must be similar output. Just weird and probably usual EU rules playing catchup. IMO better as how many times have owners had the washer system pop / break due to freezing temps etc. __________________ F30 335i M Sport - now departed
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