[wuoltk]

I was wonder if anyone has coded this? Just wondering if it's even possible for 2008 e92 pre-lci 335xi. Thank you in advance.

[Len_Beach]

I don't believe it's possible sadly.

[cryptomit]

Not possible via standard coding, safety reasons.

[jwzimm]

Seriously, are you driving around with your traction control off all the time? I truly hope, for yours and everyone else's sake, you be careful.

[Len_Beach]

I can see the benefit.

My cruise control often disables due to the traction control kicking in when using the cruise to accelerate e.g. from 50 up to 70.

[jwzimm]

Originally Posted by Len_Beach

I can see the benefit.

My cruise control often disables due to the traction control kicking in when using the cruise to accelerate e.g. from 50 up to 70.

Wat?!? How are you breaking traction in this case? The cruise control does not apply anywhere near full throttle to accelerate so unless you are running on nearly slick tires in the rain you should not have the TC engage in this circumstance.

The point here is that cruise control is to be used during steady state cruise situations to allow the driver to relax a little. Relaxed is not the state you should be in when you have your traction control turned off. It is there in case a serious situation arises to prevent you killing yourself or others. I do not see the case for anyone turning it off on the street unless they are a certified racing driver. And even then, take it to the track.

[wuoltk]

Originally Posted by jwzimm

Seriously, are you driving around with your traction control off all the time? I truly hope, for yours and everyone else's sake, you be careful.

No, I was just wondering if it was even possible with our cars. This past week I had a 2015 Camaro rental for a few days and it would keep the cruise set with traction off. I thought it was kind of odd that the cruise would still be sit, since it's a safety feature. jwzimm thanks for reassuring me and expressing your concerns.

[jwzimm]

Originally Posted by wuoltk

No, I was just wondering if it was even possible with our cars. This past week I had a 2015 Camaro rental for a few days and it would keep the cruise set with traction off. I thought it was kind of odd that the cruise would still be sit, since it's a safety feature. jwzimm thanks for reassuring me and expressing your concerns.

Sorry. Didn't mean to come of condescending. I just get a little irritated when I hear about folks saying they always drive with the traction control off.

[wuoltk]

Originally Posted by jwzimm

Sorry. Didn't mean to come of condescending. I just get a little irritated when I hear about folks saying they always drive with the traction control off.

No problem at all. I didn't take it that way.

[datbimmer]

Originally Posted by jwzimm

Sorry. Didn't mean to come of condescending. I just get a little irritated when I hear about folks saying they always drive with the traction control off.

What's wrong with driving with the traction control off ? I drive with it off 95% of the time. and the other 5% it's DTC.

[jwzimm]

Originally Posted by datbimmer

What's wrong with driving with the traction control off ? I drive with it off 95% of the time. and the other 5% it's DTC.

What's wrong is that the system is in place to save your butt should an extreme situation arise. Do you have the proper training and experience to control a 300+ hp 3000+lbs missile in the event that a sudden maneuver needs to be made. I find way too many people are too cocky about their abilities behind the wheel and when they encounter a situation that gets out of hand, they end up hurting themselves or others.

Why do you feel the need to turn it off? Are you breaking traction that often on public roads that you need to disable it?

[grzes]

I still remember the first time when my cruise control cut off while on the highway and I was like "WHHHHHAAAAT limp mode again!!!??" then I looked and no light but I am slowing down, that is when I realized what really happen. Having RWD and cruise control on I am glad that it turns off itself when one wheel is loosing the traction. When driving and relax a little you have 0 ability to react as fast as you should and as jwzimm says, we are driving tanks at high speed, it is dangerous. Driving in the city is different, I turn it off partially to allow for a little spin, but my roads are almost always covered in snow so little spin is needed at times but then no cruise control.

[torr]

There is the coding option:

C0F_DCC_DTC - DYNAMIC CRUISE CONTROL (DCC) AVAILABLE IN DYNAMIC TRACTION CONTROL (DTC) MODE [WERT_00: DISABLED, WERT_01: ENABLED]

I have not had any luck enabling this fuction.

[dbworld4k]

That's not possible due to a major safety issue. Imagine driving in rain or incelement weather with cruise control on, suddenly you hit standing water and the tires break loose. The last thing you want is your cruise control accelerating in the slip to maintain the exact speed and sending you into a ditch.

If you are cruising, your DTC has no business being off. WTF is the point of that?

[datbimmer]

Originally Posted by jwzimm

What's wrong is that the system is in place to save your butt should an extreme situation arise. Do you have the proper training and experience to control a 300+ hp 3000+lbs missile in the event that a sudden maneuver needs to be made. I find way too many people are too cocky about their abilities behind the wheel and when they encounter a situation that gets out of hand, they end up hurting themselves or others.

Why do you feel the need to turn it off? Are you breaking traction that often on public roads that you need to disable it?

I live somewhere where it regularly snows. I do have a lot of fun on corners by letting it slide when there is enough room and it is safe. What sudden maneuver do you think I need to do that the traction control would save me ? If I am sent drifting across the higway because of whatever reason I'd rather be able to do whatever I wish with my wheels instead of the traction control deciding what to do for me. I don't have any training but I have enough experience to know how a car reacts.

Originally Posted by dbworld4k

That's not possible due to a major safety issue. Imagine driving in rain or incelement weather with cruise control on, suddenly you hit standing water and the tires break loose. The last thing you want is your cruise control accelerating in the slip to maintain the exact speed and sending you into a ditch.

If you are cruising, your DTC has no business being off. WTF is the point of that?

This I agree with, I don't see why traction would be off if you're cruising. Your car shouldn't slide at any point while cruising and if it does you want the cruise control to be off.

[jwzimm]

Originally Posted by datbimmer

I live somewhere where it regularly snows. I do have a lot of fun on corners by letting it slide when there is enough room and it is safe. What sudden maneuver do you think I need to do that the traction control would save me ? If I am sent drifting across the higway because of whatever reason I'd rather be able to do whatever I wish with my wheels instead of the traction control deciding what to do for me. I don't have any training but I have enough experience to know how a car reacts.

I guess all I can say is good luck. You don't have the time to turn the system back on when you lose control. When you are drifting across the highway out of control the traction control will know a helluva lot more about what the wheels are doing than you will and will be able to pull you back into line.

Experience only works for things you have seen before. When something new occurs I prefer to have the much higher reaction time of a computer available.

[Nitrousbird]

Seriously, 10 years ago traction control wasn't even available on many vehicles. How did we all survive without traction control while using cruise control?

[jwzimm]

Originally Posted by Nitrousbird

Seriously, 10 years ago traction control wasn't even available on many vehicles. How did we all survive without traction control while using cruise control?

We had cars that were much heavier and more stable as well as slower. And not everyone survived btw. The advent of traction control (along with seatbelts, airbags, and other pesky devices) has resulted in a massive reduction in motor related fatalities.

[Nitrousbird]

Originally Posted by jwzimm

We had cars that were much heavier and more stable as well as slower. And not everyone survived btw. The advent of traction control (along with seatbelts, airbags, and other pesky devices) has resulted in a massive reduction in motor related fatalities.

Please show a study citing that traction control alone has reduced accidents.

Cars were not heavier 10-20 years ago...they actually tended to be the same weight or lighter. All of these additional gadgets add nothing but weight to a vehicle.

There were a number of stock cars making 300+ HP in the 90's without traction control.

[jwzimm]

Originally Posted by Nitrousbird

Please show a study citing that traction control alone has reduced accidents.

Cars were not heavier 10-20 years ago...they actually tended to be the same weight or lighter. All of these additional gadgets add nothing but weight to a vehicle.

There were a number of stock cars making 300+ HP in the 90's without traction control.

I'm not going to argue statistics and minutia with you. The point is, the system is much more capable than the average driver to keep the vehicle under control.

People seem to forget they are in control of a 3000+ lbs kinetic energy weapon. Reducing your margin for error invites unreasonable danger.

[jwzimm]

Originally Posted by Nitrousbird

Please show a study citing that traction control alone has reduced accidents.

Cars were not heavier 10-20 years ago...they actually tended to be the same weight or lighter. All of these additional gadgets add nothing but weight to a vehicle.

There were a number of stock cars making 300+ HP in the 90's without traction control.

http://www.seattlepi.com/news/politi...ed-6048420.php

You asked...

Granted it does not show that traction control alone contributed to it but it does state that it had a lot to do with it.

[Nitrousbird]

Originally Posted by jwzimm

http://www.seattlepi.com/news/politi...ed-6048420.php

You asked...

Granted it does not show that traction control alone contributed to it but it does state that it had a lot to do with it.

No where in that article does it mention traction control. It mentions stability control reducing roll over collisions.

Traction control != stability control.