JB4 F30 EWG Specific Board

u5g335 · 12-29-2014, 12:33 PM

Anyone using the ewg specific board yet? Is there a noticeable difference / worth it to upgrade? $135 - $100 for sending old board back in.
http://www.burgertuning.com/N55_JB4_upgrades.html

Bee Pee · 12-29-2014, 05:10 PM

Some here in the UK using it. Gets rid of the start up errors with EWG wires.

ocN55 · 06-03-2015, 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Bee Pee

Some here in the UK using it. Gets rid of the start up errors with EWG wires.

Sorry for the old bump, I'm trying to do research.

Is there no other benefit to this EWG specific board? How exactly is it more "optimized" as claimed on the site?

Bee Pee · 06-03-2015, 03:11 AM

Benefit is that it futureproofs your JB4. I noticed a bump in power and torque when dyno'd compared to same dyno previously with old board.

rustyminded · 06-03-2015, 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Bee Pee

Benefit is that it futureproofs your JB4. I noticed a bump in power and torque when dyno'd compared to same dyno previously with old board.

interesting by how much 5 whp for instance or big margin ?

Bee Pee · 06-03-2015, 03:44 AM

After EWG board swap, back to dyno to fettle map 6.
Peak numbers increased by 15 bhp and 15-20 lbft at the crank.
The real winner though for me was 375+BHP from 4500-7000rpm and 400+lbft torque from 1500-5000 rpm.

rustyminded · 06-03-2015, 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Bee Pee

After EWG board swap, back to dyno to fettle map 6.
Peak numbers increased by 15 bhp and 15-20 lbft at the crank.
The real winner though for me was 375+BHP from 4500-7000rpm and 400+lbft torque from 1500-5000 rpm.

wow this is huge difference ! do you think i will benefit on map 1 N20 that much ?!

Bee Pee · 06-03-2015, 06:20 AM

Rusty,

Not sure about N20 platform but maps 1 and 2 on latest FW for N55 have adaption. Map for map, these seem to be stronger than previous FW versions <3.1 where 3.2 had aggressive map 1 [now map 2 in v3.3].

Map 1 should give you some improvement but nowhere near the same as getting your car custom map 6 set up correctly. Definitely worth spending sometime on a dyno or road runs to gather logs and tweak settings to optimum.

rustyminded · 06-03-2015, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Bee Pee

Rusty,

Not sure about N20 platform but maps 1 and 2 on latest FW for N55 have adaption. Map for map, these seem to be stronger than previous FW versions <3.1 where 3.2 had aggressive map 1 [now map 2 in v3.3].

Map 1 should give you some improvement but nowhere near the same as getting your car custom map 6 set up correctly. Definitely worth spending sometime on a dyno or road runs to gather logs and tweak settings to optimum.

I would love to do custom map but two problems I'm facing. fuel and I'm not expert, I asked Terry to help me for custom map. he didn't help me that much as it's done by professional shops he said and i need to find local tuner which i don't trust around here.
yes Terry adjusted new firmware in N20 additive map
map 1 +4.5 psi and map 2 +6 psi. it's better and much smoother.

Bee Pee · 06-03-2015, 08:17 AM

Rusty

N20 map 2 @+ 6psi - this must assume some bolts ons and higher grade fuel - v much doubt you will hit +6psi on a stock car.

If Map 1 [and map 2] work for you and you're happy then leave JB4 to its own devices and enjoy !

BP

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 06-03-2015, 02:54 PM

The new EWG is the future of the JB so most updates and features will be released on this so its worthwhile to consider as an upgrade.

Mike

Dosturbos · 07-17-2015, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike@N54Tuning.com

The new EWG is the future of the JB so most updates and features will be released on this so its worthwhile to consider as an upgrade.

Mike

Is there power to be gained just using EWG wires and pump gas? And Burger's upgraded board?

Bee Pee · 07-18-2015, 11:07 AM

Yes!!!

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 07-19-2015, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Bee Pee

Yes!!!

+1

Mike

lbovill · 07-19-2015, 02:21 PM

Just sent an email off to BMS regarding the EWG board for those like me with the EWG N20 engine. Curious if it is worth it.

AC792 · 07-19-2015, 07:18 PM

Do you guys know if the EWG board will work on a non EWG (pneumatic) car? I have a 2012 F30 335i that I want to put a JB4 on but many of the ones for sale are EWG boards..

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 07-20-2015, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Ktm.Moto

Do you guys know if the EWG board will work on a non EWG (pneumatic) car? I have a 2012 F30 335i that I want to put a JB4 on but many of the ones for sale are EWG boards..

No

Mike

Dosturbos · 07-20-2015, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Bee Pee

Yes!!!

How was the installation? I noticed on the burger website that some wires need to be clipped or taken out of the equation.
Thanks

Bee Pee · 07-20-2015, 10:22 AM

2turbos,

If you are upgrading from the old board to the EWG specific board and using the same existing loom then you can choose to:-

1. remove power and earth connections [no longer required for EWG board];
2. remove PWG specific plugs from your loom.

Both the above are not essential more a choice if you wanted to tidy up the install ie less wires/unused plugs lying around.

BP

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 07-20-2015, 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bee Pee

2turbos,

If you are upgrading from the old board to the EWG specific board and using the same existing loom then you can choose to:-

1. remove power and earth connections [no longer required for EWG board];
2. remove PWG specific plugs from your loom.

Both the above are not essential more a choice if you wanted to tidy up the install ie less wires/unused plugs lying around.

BP

+1

Its best to clip the wires and took them away (zip tie to harness)

Mike

Dosturbos · 07-20-2015, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bee Pee

2turbos,

If you are upgrading from the old board to the EWG specific board and using the same existing loom then you can choose to:-

1. remove power and earth connections [no longer required for EWG board];
2. remove PWG specific plugs from your loom.

Both the above are not essential more a choice if you wanted to tidy up the install ie less wires/unused plugs lying around.

BP

Beautiful, thank you for the heads up.

Dosturbos · 08-10-2015, 09:25 PM

Just installed this board today. Very happy with the results.
Huge improvement over Non-EWG specific board. Punchier and more natural feeling throttle response. Power feels more linear, less boosty, and jumpy feeling.
The car feels awesome!
Can't wait to put my catless downpipe on.
Got to hand it to Berger Motorsports for raising the bar yet again.

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Bee Pee Brigadier General 1787 Rep 4,528 Posts Drives: AW M2 DCT Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: SW London iTrader: (3)	After EWG board swap, back to dyno to fettle map 6. Peak numbers increased by 15 bhp and 15-20 lbft at the crank. The real winner though for me was 375+BHP from 4500-7000rpm and 400+lbft torque from 1500-5000 rpm. __________________ Fettled M135i EB AT then AW M2 DCT - both gone but not forgotten: Current '22 X3M LCI..
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Bee Pee Brigadier General 1787 Rep 4,528 Posts Drives: AW M2 DCT Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: SW London iTrader: (3)	Rusty, Not sure about N20 platform but maps 1 and 2 on latest FW for N55 have adaption. Map for map, these seem to be stronger than previous FW versions <3.1 where 3.2 had aggressive map 1 [now map 2 in v3.3]. Map 1 should give you some improvement but nowhere near the same as getting your car custom map 6 set up correctly. Definitely worth spending sometime on a dyno or road runs to gather logs and tweak settings to optimum. __________________ Fettled M135i EB AT then AW M2 DCT - both gone but not forgotten: Current '22 X3M LCI..
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Bee Pee Brigadier General 1787 Rep 4,528 Posts Drives: AW M2 DCT Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: SW London iTrader: (3)	Rusty N20 map 2 @+ 6psi - this must assume some bolts ons and higher grade fuel - v much doubt you will hit +6psi on a stock car. If Map 1 [and map 2] work for you and you're happy then leave JB4 to its own devices and enjoy ! BP __________________ Fettled M135i EB AT then AW M2 DCT - both gone but not forgotten: Current '22 X3M LCI..
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Bee Pee Brigadier General 1787 Rep 4,528 Posts Drives: AW M2 DCT Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: SW London iTrader: (3)	Yes!!!
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lbovill Private First Class 16 Rep 187 Posts Drives: 2013 F30 BMW 328i Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Close to the Southernmost Point iTrader: (2)	Just sent an email off to BMS regarding the EWG board for those like me with the EWG N20 engine. Curious if it is worth it. __________________ 2013 F30 328i: BMS JB4, BMW 216 18x8 et34, Dinan Springs, Rev09 FMIC, M Performance Exhaust, coded, and BavSound Stage 1 ---
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AC792 Lieutenant 60 Rep 541 Posts Drives: 2012 F30 335i Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Milwaukee, WI iTrader: (4)	Do you guys know if the EWG board will work on a non EWG (pneumatic) car? I have a 2012 F30 335i that I want to put a JB4 on but many of the ones for sale are EWG boards.. __________________ Now: 2012 F30 335i / 6MT / JB4 / ER Catless DP Sold: 2010 Jeep GC SRT8 Sold: 2007 E90 335i / 6MT / JB4 / Vishnu Exhaust / VMR 710 19" / BMS DCI / HKS Blow Off Valve / Tinted Tails / Clutch Stop
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Bee Pee Brigadier General 1787 Rep 4,528 Posts Drives: AW M2 DCT Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: SW London iTrader: (3)	2turbos, If you are upgrading from the old board to the EWG specific board and using the same existing loom then you can choose to:- 1. remove power and earth connections [no longer required for EWG board]; 2. remove PWG specific plugs from your loom. Both the above are not essential more a choice if you wanted to tidy up the install ie less wires/unused plugs lying around. BP __________________ Fettled M135i EB AT then AW M2 DCT - both gone but not forgotten: Current '22 X3M LCI..
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Dosturbos Lieutenant 56 Rep 467 Posts Drives: 2017 F48 X1 MSport Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Medford, MA iTrader: (1)	Just installed this board today. Very happy with the results. Huge improvement over Non-EWG specific board. Punchier and more natural feeling throttle response. Power feels more linear, less boosty, and jumpy feeling. The car feels awesome! Can't wait to put my catless downpipe on. Got to hand it to Berger Motorsports for raising the bar yet again.
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