BMS Pump flash help!

Kienvu14 · 11-09-2014, 10:08 PM

Hey guys need your help here. Just got my car back with some new additions.

VTT Stg 2's
7inch FMIC
SteveAZ's Stg 2 Walboro 450 upgrade.

I tried flashing tonight for 6 hours with no luck. I used a BT cable and the [Admin Notified] application to try and read my ECU but it took more than 2 hours each try and Terry stated something was wrong so I aborted the read after 2 hours. Tried twice and yes I had a battery tender connected. Volts read at 13.78.

Protocol : K Line
Software : OI8AOS
Variant index : 33
Voltage 13-13.78
Modular preset : true

Did some research and found some stating that the 2007 K line ecu's are quite picky.

Tried total of 3 times.
2 times : Intel i7 w/16gb ram (fast enough so confused here)
1 time : i5 2gb. Ram

Followed the DIY and still not working. Yes JB4 is on map 0. Help please! Want to flash pump flash for daily and e85 flash right before dyno so I can get some info and numbers out to you guys on these VTT's!

musc · 11-09-2014, 10:28 PM

Are you getting any error messages at all? KLines are picky. There are two versions of the flashing software. Try Terry's version if you haven't already as it tends to work a little better with KLines.

Kienvu14 · 11-09-2014, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by musc

Are you getting any error messages at all? KLines are picky. There are two versions of the flashing software. Try Terry's version if you haven't already as it tends to work a little better with KLines.

No error messages what so ever. Problem is, I've downloaded Terry's version from n54 and every time I click ID ECU it will crash. I've downloaded that one from my two laptops and they both still crash. BB version connects but is well over 2 hours for read.

Kienvu14 · 11-09-2014, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by musc

Are you getting any error messages at all? KLines are picky. There are two versions of the flashing software. Try Terry's version if you haven't already as it tends to work a little better with KLines.

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Ingeniator · 11-09-2014, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Kienvu14

No error messages what so ever. Problem is, I've downloaded Terry's version from n54 and every time I click ID ECU it will crash. I've downloaded that one from my two laptops and they both still crash. BB version connects but is well over 2 hours for read.

My first read was like 1.5-2hr on my 07. With BB version. Since then I haven't had any issues with flash time. I only use my original file though. I have versions of it and import the changes with tuner pro. That way it is always a partial write.

Using a windows 8 tablet fyi.

WedgePerformance · 11-09-2014, 11:42 PM

If you want to use Terry's version you need to make sure you have the latest .Net loaded on your computer. If not, update it by downloading .NET which IIRC is 4.5.

Another than you can do is skip the read as you can always recover your ECU from WinKFP. If you need help with downloading the tools, email me. You'll also need a K+DCAN cable which I would recommend for anyone with K-LINE purchase prior to attempting to flash with BB flash.

Kienvu14 · 11-09-2014, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Ingeniator

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Originally Posted by Kienvu14

No error messages what so ever. Problem is, I've downloaded Terry's version from n54 and every time I click ID ECU it will crash. I've downloaded that one from my two laptops and they both still crash. BB version connects but is well over 2 hours for read.

My first read was like 1.5-2hr on my 07. With BB version. Since then I haven't had any issues with flash time. I only use my original file though. I have versions of it and import the changes with tuner pro. That way it is always a partial write.

Using a windows 8 tablet fyi.

The weird thing is my first Read reaches 2h and 30 minutes with 123 minutes left on the clock.

and can some one educate me where I can find the most up to date of .NET and what exactly it is? I'm kind of lost there

Jeef · 11-10-2014, 12:10 AM

Just to make sure... JB is on map 0 correct?

Kienvu14 · 11-10-2014, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeef

Just to make sure... JB is on map 0 correct?

Yes lol

musc · 11-10-2014, 12:46 AM

The .net framework files should be in the Windows update. It looks like you have Win7 so you should have 3.5 or later. With Terry's version (and both versions imo), change the compatibility to run in Windows XP SP2 mode and run as admin. If push comes to shove, find a laptop with WinXP on it and give it a try.

The software is great and free but it is still so buggy :/

Jeef · 11-10-2014, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by musc

The .net framework files should be in the Windows update. It looks like you have Win7 so you should have 3.5 or later. With Terry's version (and both versions imo), change the compatibility to run in Windows XP SP2 mode and run as admin. If push comes to shove, find a laptop with WinXP on it and give it a try.

The software is great and free but it is still so buggy :/

When I did my flashes I never had to set compatibility on windows 7. Make sure you have the up to date .net framework

musc · 11-10-2014, 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeef

When I did my flashes I never had to set compatibility on windows 7. Make sure you have the up to date .net framework

Every computer is different and if he is having issues, the compatibility should be set to Windows XP...

stanlalee · 11-10-2014, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by 2SoonJR

It's your laptop. Get an amd or Intel atom netbook and your read time will be an hour. I have a Kline and I tried 5 laptops before figuring it out.

I agree. My laptop will not flash my k-line (despite the fact it read it although it took 3hrs). My son's $350 3yr old entry level AMD flashes it ever time in 1:35 sec or faster.

Kienvu14 · 11-10-2014, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by stanlalee

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Originally Posted by 2SoonJR

It's your laptop. Get an amd or Intel atom netbook and your read time will be an hour. I have a Kline and I tried 5 laptops before figuring it out.

I agree. My laptop will not flash my k-line (despite the fact it read it although it took 3hrs). My son's $350 3yr old entry level AMD flashes it ever time in 1:35 sec or faster.

Haha wtf. Alright I will attempt to find a AMD laptop. Thank you guys!

PR3CI5N · 11-10-2014, 01:18 PM

Doesn't seem to me like the problem is your laptop. Do you have a battery charger connected when attempting to do the read? If not you'll never get a complete read and it'll take about 2 hours do to voltage.

Did you download both the BB software and the BMS software? You can't use the BMS software without the BB software.

Kienvu14 · 11-10-2014, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by PR3CI5N

Doesn't seem to me like the problem is your laptop. Do you have a battery charger connected when attempting to do the read? If not you'll never get a complete read and it'll take about 2 hours do to voltage.

Did you download both the BB software and the BMS software? You can't use the BMS software without the BB software.

Yes if you read original post I have a battery charger connected and it reads 13 Volts which is more than enough. Would installing both the BB and BMS software at the same time fix the fact that the BMS software will always freeze when clicking ID ECU? I downloaded both but only the BB software will ID the ECU

PR3CI5N · 11-10-2014, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Kienvu14

Yes if you read original post I have a battery charger connected and it reads 13 Volts which is more than enough. Would installing both the BB and BMS software at the same time fix the fact that the BMS software will always freeze when clicking ID ECU? I downloaded both but only the BB software will ID the ECU

Try uninstalling both and then reinstall them. Download the BB software first then open up the BMS software under all programs. If this doesn't work then it must be your laptop like everyone else is saying.

CarAbuser · 11-10-2014, 03:37 PM

Is there any stable solution for using BBFlash?

From what I've gathered a few people have bricked their DME using it and a lot of people have slow flash times.

It would be nice to be able to use a laptop for flashing along with a VM containing ISTA/D and the standard tools. An all-in-one BMW software tool.

Kienvu14 · 11-10-2014, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by PR3CI5N

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Originally Posted by Kienvu14

Yes if you read original post I have a battery charger connected and it reads 13 Volts which is more than enough. Would installing both the BB and BMS software at the same time fix the fact that the BMS software will always freeze when clicking ID ECU? I downloaded both but only the BB software will ID the ECU

Try uninstalling both and then reinstall them. Download the BB software first then open up the BMS software under all programs. If this doesn't work then it must be your laptop like everyone else is saying.

Tried a third time doing what you explained with a third laptop. Stayed at 451 minutes for an hour and a half. Intel as well. Time to go borrow a AMD and see if this works!

Kienvu14 · 11-10-2014, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 2SoonJR

It's your laptop. Get an amd or Intel atom netbook and your read time will be an hour. I have a Kline and I tried 5 laptops before figuring it out.

On an AMD now and it took 30 minutes to give me an estimate time and the estimate time is at 502 minutes and not declining very quickly at all.

Been reading up. Some say the Kline first read can take up to 6 hours?! Went over 2 hours and gave up for the night, will try again tomorrow morning with a different AMD laptop

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Kienvu14 Second Lieutenant 47 Rep 271 Posts Drives: 07' E90 N54 Aspen White Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Denver iTrader: (1)	Hey guys need your help here. Just got my car back with some new additions. VTT Stg 2's 7inch FMIC SteveAZ's Stg 2 Walboro 450 upgrade. I tried flashing tonight for 6 hours with no luck. I used a BT cable and the [Admin Notified] application to try and read my ECU but it took more than 2 hours each try and Terry stated something was wrong so I aborted the read after 2 hours. Tried twice and yes I had a battery tender connected. Volts read at 13.78. Protocol : K Line Software : OI8AOS Variant index : 33 Voltage 13-13.78 Modular preset : true Did some research and found some stating that the 2007 K line ecu's are quite picky. Tried total of 3 times. 2 times : Intel i7 w/16gb ram (fast enough so confused here) 1 time : i5 2gb. Ram Followed the DIY and still not working. Yes JB4 is on map 0. Help please! Want to flash pump flash for daily and e85 flash right before dyno so I can get some info and numbers out to you guys on these VTT's! __________________ E90 - N54 2007 Alpine White FBO : VRSF CP w/ Tial BOV,VRSF 7 inch FMIC, VRSF Catless DP's, Hexon RR600, Cobb V3, VMR V710 Gunmetal 19x8.5 and 19x9.5, SteveAZ stage 2 bucket
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musc ****** 184 Rep 1,702 Posts Drives: Audi TTRS, 335is Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: SC iTrader: (9) Garage List 2011 BMW 335is [10.00]	Are you getting any error messages at all? KLines are picky. There are two versions of the flashing software. Try Terry's version if you haven't already as it tends to work a little better with KLines.
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WedgePerformance BimmerPost Supporting Vendor 1339 Rep 1,701 Posts Drives: Slot Machines.. Keep Taking $ Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Portland, OR iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 BMW 335i Sport [9.67]	If you want to use Terry's version you need to make sure you have the latest .Net loaded on your computer. If not, update it by downloading .NET which IIRC is 4.5. Another than you can do is skip the read as you can always recover your ECU from WinKFP. If you need help with downloading the tools, email me. You'll also need a K+DCAN cable which I would recommend for anyone with K-LINE purchase prior to attempting to flash with BB flash.
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musc ****** 184 Rep 1,702 Posts Drives: Audi TTRS, 335is Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: SC iTrader: (9) Garage List 2011 BMW 335is [10.00]	The .net framework files should be in the Windows update. It looks like you have Win7 so you should have 3.5 or later. With Terry's version (and both versions imo), change the compatibility to run in Windows XP SP2 mode and run as admin. If push comes to shove, find a laptop with WinXP on it and give it a try. The software is great and free but it is still so buggy :/
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PR3CI5N need4speed 510 Rep 1,903 Posts Drives: 2010 E90 M 335i Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: West Coast iTrader: (24)	Doesn't seem to me like the problem is your laptop. Do you have a battery charger connected when attempting to do the read? If not you'll never get a complete read and it'll take about 2 hours do to voltage. Did you download both the BB software and the BMS software? You can't use the BMS software without the BB software. __________________ N54
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CarAbuser Lieutenant Colonel 474 Rep 1,544 Posts Drives: Z4 35i DCT / E92 335i DCT Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: United Kingdom iTrader: (0)	Is there any stable solution for using BBFlash? From what I've gathered a few people have bricked their DME using it and a lot of people have slow flash times. It would be nice to be able to use a laptop for flashing along with a VM containing ISTA/D and the standard tools. An all-in-one BMW software tool.
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