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      01-05-2008, 10:58 PM   #1
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Finally got my v2 installed! (2008)

So my impressions of v2. The car runs like stock until you apply about 1/3 - 1/2 throttle. I experience the boring stock-lik performance driving around town, but that's just fine for me. I see that the car picks up alot quicker when you punch it though(6AT). For those of you who have 1.47...remember that nice punch down low? Imagine about 3/4 - 5/6 of that power "slam" extended out through the entire RPM band. I am very satisfied that shiv smoothed this out. I had a local PROcede guru install my v2 and make sure everything was done right, as well as run a USB cable from ECU to glovebox. Interestingly, 335ihellraiser and Bolas happened to show up by mere chance, nice tofinally meet some of you local guys.

I started off leaving my settings @ 90% and did some logs on the 50 mile drive home and didn't see over about 14.5 psi at ANY time, not even between shifts. Increased torque to 91% across the board and same result. I deleted those logs to record the 92% I eventually raised it to, and am now @ 93% but have not data logged it. My max boost was 14.6 psi right after the shift from 2nd into 3rd when the RPMs are just starting to pick up. The boost is relatively smooth and flat from my data tables I have logged since having v2. On 93 octane and 92% torque, I only hit 13.7 - 14.2 psi around the 5300 - 5500 RPM range. How much more wiggle room do I have? I assume I can run 94% no problem, but will hold off until I can datalog it in 93%.

So far the car runs smooth as butter, with no issues. Can't wait for v2.0.3!
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glad you finally got it! enjoy! now go give E90 335 a run for his money. lol
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So my impressions of v2. The car runs like stock until you apply about 1/3 - 1/2 throttle. I experience the boring stock-lik performance driving around town, but that's just fine for me. I see that the car picks up alot quicker when you punch it though(6AT). For those of you who have 1.47...remember that nice punch down low? Imagine about 3/4 - 5/6 of that power "slam" extended out through the entire RPM band. I am very satisfied that shiv smoothed this out. I had a local PROcede guru install my v2 and make sure everything was done right, as well as run a USB cable from ECU to glovebox. Interestingly, 335ihellraiser and Bolas happened to show up by mere chance, nice tofinally meet some of you local guys.

I started off leaving my settings @ 90% and did some logs on the 50 mile drive home and didn't see over about 14.5 psi at ANY time, not even between shifts. Increased torque to 91% across the board and same result. I deleted those logs to record the 92% I eventually raised it to, and am now @ 93% but have not data logged it. My max boost was 14.6 psi right after the shift from 2nd into 3rd when the RPMs are just starting to pick up. The boost is relatively smooth and flat from my data tables I have logged since having v2. On 93 octane and 92% torque, I only hit 13.7 - 14.2 psi around the 5300 - 5500 RPM range. How much more wiggle room do I have? I assume I can run 94% no problem, but will hold off until I can datalog it in 93%.

So far the car runs smooth as butter, with no issues. Can't wait for v2.0.3!
who in SFL installed yours....mines is still sitting in the box
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who in SFL installed yours....mines is still sitting in the box
ASR Engineering. I had it installed by a guy named Abid. He is the MAN to go to for anything with PROcedes. He is also a personal friend of shiv himself. When a BMW tech uninstalled my v1.47 off of the wrecked E90, he broke a couple of pins and even cut some wires. Abid resoldered everything, and I swear it looked new again.

Ask anyone here down south and they will tell you he is the man for procedes. 335ihellraiser will vouch for him, as will Bolas.
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glad you finally got it! enjoy! now go give E90 335 a run for his money. lol
You should give him a run too, since you are a more fair comparison in general terms. You both have a "chip", intake, and exhaust. I don't know if he's running race gas though, but your v2 should compensate for that. I will however go against him soon, once my ECU has the adaptive values cleared on Monday and I give the car a full week to adjust to everything.


How is the MSDS Stage 2? I would really love to see it. Let e know how it is going for you.
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Update: Data logged some 93% runs and the boost curves are not as smooth anymore. But peak PSI is still 14.6. In general, I am now @ about 14.5 psi througout 2nd gear, and in the high 13's in 3rd, if my memory serves me correctly.

But now there are random points where boost will drop to about 12 or 13 psi. What's up with that? I assume it is the turbos not being able to maintain 14+ pounds consistently? That or should I upgrade my DVs?
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Update: Data logged some 93% runs and the boost curves are not as smooth anymore. But peak PSI is still 14.6. In general, I am now @ about 14.5 psi througout 2nd gear, and in the high 13's in 3rd, if my memory serves me correctly.

But now there are random points where boost will drop to about 12 or 13 psi. What's up with that? I assume it is the turbos not being able to maintain 14+ pounds consistently? That or should I upgrade my DVs?
Eugene had the same problems with his boost...He installed the forged DV and his boost has been steady ever since he changed out his factory diverter.

I think i will look into this too, but wait for others to chime in to see what effects the new DV have on their cars.
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who in SFL installed yours....mines is still sitting in the box
its really not that hard, try installing it yourself. Where in Fl are you?
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I experience the boring stock-lik performance driving around town, but that's just fine for me.
Great write up, I find this quote a little funny because it seems that we take for granted the actual performance of this fine car in stock form

Been lurking for the past month and half and have pretty much decided to go with a Procede set-up as well. The only thing is I'll wait until the summer as I really do not see the use of the extra power in the white stuff!!!

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Great write up, I find this quote a little funny because it seems that we take for granted the actual performance of this fine car in stock form

Been lurking for the past month and half and have pretty much decided to go with a Procede set-up as well. The only thing is I'll wait until the summer as I really do not see the use of the extra power in the white stuff!!!

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Update: Data logged some 93% runs and the boost curves are not as smooth anymore. But peak PSI is still 14.6. In general, I am now @ about 14.5 psi througout 2nd gear, and in the high 13's in 3rd, if my memory serves me correctly.

But now there are random points where boost will drop to about 12 or 13 psi. What's up with that? I assume it is the turbos not being able to maintain 14+ pounds consistently? That or should I upgrade my DVs?
For fellow V2 owners with 93 octane, is that the common feeling that 93% may not be the smooothest setting but maybe 92%?
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For fellow V2 owners with 93 octane, is that the common feeling that 93% may not be the smooothest setting but maybe 92%?
It all feels the same to me, but 93% feels a little more powerful. I am working on uploading my datalogs now so I can hear some input on my random fluctuations.
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For fellow V2 owners with 93 octane, is that the common feeling that 93% may not be the smooothest setting but maybe 92%?
huh?
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i run 93% on 91, if i was 93 octane id go 94-95
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94% across the board on 93 octane...runs great!!!
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95% across the board at 93 octane...14.9 max boost and its smoothe
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Update: Data logged some 93% runs and the boost curves are not as smooth anymore. But peak PSI is still 14.6. In general, I am now @ about 14.5 psi througout 2nd gear, and in the high 13's in 3rd, if my memory serves me correctly.

But now there are random points where boost will drop to about 12 or 13 psi. What's up with that? I assume it is the turbos not being able to maintain 14+ pounds consistently? That or should I upgrade my DVs?

Shiv, what I mean is rideelement is saying he feels a less smooth throttle response with 93% vs 92%. This is what I'm interpeting, but I could be wrong.

I know you said a while back that you can safely go up to 94% on 93 octane. I have mine set at 93%. Sometimes I feel it is not as smooth but it could be in my head. I might try 92% to see if there is a difference. Again, kudos to you for such a user configurable tuning platform!
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So my impressions of v2. The car runs like stock until you apply about 1/3 - 1/2 throttle. I experience the boring stock-lik performance driving around town, but that's just fine for me. I see that the car picks up alot quicker when you punch it though(6AT). For those of you who have 1.47...remember that nice punch down low? Imagine about 3/4 - 5/6 of that power "slam" extended out through the entire RPM band. I am very satisfied that shiv smoothed this out. I had a local PROcede guru install my v2 and make sure everything was done right, as well as run a USB cable from ECU to glovebox. Interestingly, 335ihellraiser and Bolas happened to show up by mere chance, nice tofinally meet some of you local guys.

I started off leaving my settings @ 90% and did some logs on the 50 mile drive home and didn't see over about 14.5 psi at ANY time, not even between shifts. Increased torque to 91% across the board and same result. I deleted those logs to record the 92% I eventually raised it to, and am now @ 93% but have not data logged it. My max boost was 14.6 psi right after the shift from 2nd into 3rd when the RPMs are just starting to pick up. The boost is relatively smooth and flat from my data tables I have logged since having v2. On 93 octane and 92% torque, I only hit 13.7 - 14.2 psi around the 5300 - 5500 RPM range. How much more wiggle room do I have? I assume I can run 94% no problem, but will hold off until I can datalog it in 93%.

So far the car runs smooth as butter, with no issues. Can't wait for v2.0.3!


Awesome man im glad your enjoying the V2!!! It was nice meeting you and those black onyx rims you got look incredible in person! We should all try and meet up one of these days, bring e90 (mike)
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Shiv, what I mean is rideelement is saying he feels a less smooth throttle response with 93% vs 92%. This is what I'm interpeting, but I could be wrong.

I know you said a while back that you can safely go up to 94% on 93 octane. I have mine set at 93%. Sometimes I feel it is not as smooth but it could be in my head. I might try 92% to see if there is a difference. Again, kudos to you for such a user configurable tuning platform!
Thanks : As for smoothness, the only time raising the User TQ numbers will results in unsmoothness is:

a) if you run more boost than the octane can safely support and you get knock retard (bad).
b) if you run enough boost to induce a leak in your induction system (faulty bov, loose clamp, etc,.)

That's really about it.

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Here's my datalogs:


The above is @ 92%.


This is @ 92% as well.


This is @ 93%.


This is @ 93%.

I run all the way up to 3rd gear, most are from either a standstill or about a 20mph roll.
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