JB+ and COBB's Accessport V3

tsimiklis · 10-14-2014, 12:04 AM

Need some advise guys.
i have 2010 335i x drive automatic.

the car is stock. i have ordered JB+ and after i was reading about COBB's Accessport V3, i have ordered that also.

soo my questions is which one should i install?? and can both be installed ? if both are installed do i get more power, or is one going to conflict with the other?

my first time as bmw owner and my first time on this forum..

Johnny Boost · 10-14-2014, 08:48 AM

The Cobb will be better than the JB+ hands down. The Cobb is comparable to the JB4.

drewnel22 · 10-14-2014, 10:21 AM

Sell JB+ buy JB4

Johnny Boost · 10-14-2014, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by 10splaya22

Sell JB+ buy JB4

Or just sell the JB+ and get Wedge's custom map or pro tune for the Cobb.

tsimiklis · 10-14-2014, 01:24 PM

i canot get jb4 because i leave in nova scotia canada, halifax. there is no one that has any idea how to install the jb4 , well no one that i can trust that is. i know that the video shows how it is done, but there is no one here that has done this before, unless i go west towards montreal or toronto. i find the car fast now!! which is stock, but i would like to make it little more horse and torque with out installing new parts. does that make SENSE? or do i sound like an idiot? lol thanks guys

bigdaddycane · 10-14-2014, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by tsimiklis

i canot get jb4 because i leave in nova scotia canada, halifax. there is no one that has any idea how to install the jb4 , well no one that i can trust that is. i know that the video shows how it is done, but there is no one here that has done this before, unless i go west towards montreal or toronto. i find the car fast now!! which is stock, but i would like to make it little more horse and torque with out installing new parts. does that make SENSE? or do i sound like an idiot? lol thanks guys

tsimiklis, be a trend setter and install it yourself, its not hard to do....then help others in Nova Scotia install the JB4 and before long all 335's in NS will be running a JB4 because of YOU.

mike@x-ph.com · 10-14-2014, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsimiklis

Need some advise guys.
i have 2010 335i x drive automatic.

the car is stock. i have ordered JB+ and after i was reading about COBB's Accessport V3, i have ordered that also.

soo my questions is which one should i install?? and can both be installed ? if both are installed do i get more power, or is one going to conflict with the other?

my first time as bmw owner and my first time on this forum..

Sell the Jb+ and get a Jb4
Then stack the Jb4 with Cobb

Jeff@TopGearSolutions · 10-14-2014, 03:22 PM

Run the Cobb and sell the JB+. Not sure why everyone is boasting about you selling both and getting a JB4. The Cobb is more then capable of handling an otherwise stock vehicle or a full bolt on vehicle.

You should not run both. There is no magical way to get more power.

Air Fuel Spark are the only ways to make power. You can only run so much boost and so much ignition timing.

WedgePerformance · 10-14-2014, 04:02 PM

Jeff is right... Pay attention Mike. LOL

I personally ran both the PROcede and the JB4 stacked. COBB is by far the best tuning platform hands down. In the hands of a good tuner, you can make the same if not more power flashed. I'm running less timing on my car today and making more power than I did when I was stacked. I can flash my car in 1 min to change between pump or E85. Gauge hijacking... Yeah, not so cool anymore. I can display all of that on my AP and more. Don't get me started on data logs. Push of a button. I can also log all the channels I need to actually tune my car. 60' foot and 1/4 mile times. Yeah, COBB..

Jnat · 10-14-2014, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by WedgePerformance

Jeff is right... Pay attention Mike. LOL

I personally ran both the PROcede and the JB4 stacked. COBB is by far the best tuning platform hands down. In the hands of a good tuner, you can make the same if not more power flashed. I'm running less timing on my car today and making more power than I did when I was stacked. I can flash my car in 1 min to change between pump or E85. Gauge hijacking... Yeah, not so cool anymore. I can display all of that on my AP and more. Don't get me started on data logs. Push of a button. I can also log all the channels I need to actually tune my car. 60' foot and 1/4 mile times. Yeah, COBB..

Wedge, do you offer Cobb maps for E/Race/Street?

WedgePerformance · 10-14-2014, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jnat

Wedge, do you offer Cobb maps for E/Race/Street?

We are only focusing on E/Race maps and will be tuning for max performance.

Please don't confuse Max Performance with high timing, our E/Race maps are NOT High Timing maps. Our MAX timing will be 13.5 deg for ALL maps. We are seeing over 500 wtq on stock turbos at 12.8 deg of timing with E50. Please stay tuned as more information will follow.

NA55 · 10-14-2014, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by WedgePerformance

We are only focusing on E/Race maps and will be tuning for max performance.

Please don't confuse Max Performance with high timing, our E/Race maps are NOT High Timing maps. Our MAX timing will be 13.5 deg for ALL maps. We are seeing over 500 wtq on stock turbos at 12.8 deg of timing with E50. Please stay tuned as more information will follow.

Very interesting.. What kind of boost numbers are you using?

WedgePerformance · 10-15-2014, 01:29 AM

Depends on many different variables. You have to remember, the DME targets Load not Boost. I normally run 19.5 psi and taper to 16 at 6000 rpm...

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Originally Posted by NA55

Very interesting.. What kind of boost numbers are you using?

Reckless335 · 10-15-2014, 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WedgePerformance

We are only focusing on E/Race maps and will be tuning for max performance.

Please don't confuse Max Performance with high timing, our E/Race maps are NOT High Timing maps. Our MAX timing will be 13.5 deg for ALL maps. We are seeing over 500 wtq on stock turbos at 12.8 deg of timing with E50. Please stay tuned as more information will follow.

How can I get one of these maps? I am running the Cobb AP V3 OTS maps and I want to make more power.

ImGone92 · 10-15-2014, 05:33 AM

Hey wedge, been reading great things about u on the forum man.....would love the opportunity for u to touch my car, I'm running cobb stage2 + fmic. Feels good but with your expert tutelage I'm sure it would be even better. I live in South fl, any way to contact u directly?

WedgePerformance · 10-15-2014, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by latino1ny

How can I get one of these maps? I am running the Cobb AP V3 OTS maps and I want to make more power.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImGone92

Hey wedge, been reading great things about u on the forum man.....would love the opportunity for u to touch my car, I'm running cobb stage2 + fmic. Feels good but with your expert tutelage I'm sure it would be even better. I live in South fl, any way to contact u directly?

Just email me at WedgePerformance@gmail.com for more information. We have a car in South Florida hitting the dyno and track today. Car is a real torque monster making great power. Can't wait to see the numbers. ~Ken

Allen@MOTIV · 10-15-2014, 09:32 AM

We've use the AP to tune our shop cars and there is nothing comparable. Just keep the AP and DO NOT STACK the JB+. It is a TMAP clamp and the AP will be seeing a biased signal and an overboost condition will result with the DME being blind to it.

tsimiklis · 10-15-2014, 12:12 PM

Thank you very much guys

some of the technical words that you use here i do not understand, because i am just starting to educate my self with .. but thank you again

cheers.. by the way BMW ROCKS!!!!

JDrago1926 · 10-15-2014, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by WedgePerformance

Just email me at WedgePerformance@gmail.com for more information. We have a car in South Florida hitting the dyno and track today. Car is a real torque monster making great power. Can't wait to see the numbers. ~Ken

Do your maps adjust wastegate at all like the JB4 does?

tsimiklis · 10-15-2014, 01:51 PM

every time i take the car to BMW for service do i have to uninstall the Cobb AP V3 software from the car? so BMW wont give me a hard time??

remember guys i leave in canada, there very weird here about stuff like this

Johnny Boost · 10-15-2014, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsimiklis

every time i take the car to BMW for service do i have to uninstall the Cobb AP V3 software from the car? so BMW wont give me a hard time??

remember guys i leave in canada, there very weird here about stuff like this

Yes remove it every time. It only takes 10 minutes at the most. Buy a battery charger too if you want to be safe.

WedgePerformance · 10-15-2014, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JDrago1926

Do your maps adjust wastegate at all like the JB4 does?

Can you adjust wastegates with your OFT? Sorry, I couldn't resist.

This is flash tuning. If anything the WG adjustments on the JB4 are there to fix the issues with the JB4 in the first place. So before someone steps in an tries to say BS, I have personally ran the JB4 on turbos that were less than a year old without any rattle and as soon as I put the JB4 on they rattled, even adjusting them to remove the rattle didn't help much or made them spool really slow.

Is the JB4 a bad product, NO... It has it's place in our little world along with the PROcede and the OFT.

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ImGone92 Private 0 Rep 61 Posts Drives: N54 335i Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Coral Springs iTrader: (0)	Hey wedge, been reading great things about u on the forum man.....would love the opportunity for u to touch my car, I'm running cobb stage2 + fmic. Feels good but with your expert tutelage I'm sure it would be even better. I live in South fl, any way to contact u directly?
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