[Gibbo]

Just looking at the BMW website. The marketing guff says its a coupe with the practicality of an SAV. As you can tell I am not convinced by this squashed X5.

I bet the talented engineers at BMW are really hacked off with all these marketing lead products when they could be getting on with producing lighter more sporty cars.

http://www.bmw.com/com/en/newvehicle...xperience.html

[beemerbird]

Hi Gibbo, it looks a bit disjointed, sort of coupe lines from the side but the chunky arse of a typical BMW 4x4. Can't see what niche it falls into really. It doesn't look as big as say a Q7 either?

I'm sure the designers would rather get their teeth into something more traditionally BMW.

[Evil Diesel]

That is very wrong & shouldn't have made it out of the concept stage.

[- Paul -]

Horrid.

[scotw]

I think that's pretty Fugly. Personally the sooner we see the back of the SUV trend the better; big, ugly, heavy cars used to drive small children to school...crazy.

These crossovers are even worse, they not as practical as a normal SUV, but don't handle as well as a normal car, kinda the worst of all worlds!

Give me a normal 3 or 5 any day.

[NFS]

Originally Posted by Gibbo

Just looking at the BMW website. The marketing guff says its a coupe with the practicality of an SAV. As you can tell I am not convinced by this squashed X5.

I bet the talented engineers at BMW are really hacked off with all these marketing lead products when they could be getting on with producing lighter more sporty cars.

http://www.bmw.com/com/en/newvehicle...xperience.html

I agree - this is the most pointless SUV yet. It even makes the Cayenne look sensible.

BMW already make a big 4x4 - a 'coupe' 4x4 is just daft. If you don't need the space just get a coupe

[dxb335d]

PROPA MING






But they create markets, all manufacturers do, not many cars majorly fail, this one wont either even tho its PIG UGLY.

[Gibbo]

Originally Posted by dxb335d

PROPA MING






But they create markets, all manufacturers do, not many cars majorly fail, this one wont either even tho its PIG UGLY.

So this one will not be making Carlos model collection? The worrying thing about BMW is that the cars grow on me when I see them over time and the sports version comes out.

Examples below.

6 series I now really like.
1 series 3 dr sport in Le Mans Blue or the 135i Coupe in Space Grey, red leather at dealers last week.
5 series sport

[dxb335d]

+1 Gibbo, BMW's usually grow on me too.


Love the 6 now also, have done for the past year or so.

Always loved the 5 series M-Sport. Now really like the 1 series coupe to.

[Gibbo]

Originally Posted by dxb335d

+1 Gibbo, BMW's usually grow on me too.


Love the 6 now also, have done for the past year or so.

Always loved the 5 series M-Sport. Now really like the 1 series coupe to.

Have you seen a 135i yet in the flesh? The one I saw was driving into the dealers and it looked fantastic. The exhaust note was I thought dam, I have brought the wrong car and I would have had more fun in the baby coupe.

I am going to test drive one next year to compare to the 3. The magazine reviews say it's a bit more refined than it could/should have been - but I really take what half of them say as tosh and make decisions for myself.

Also want to drive in 08.

Mini Cooper S and Honda Civic Type R. I have never driven a Japanese car but want to see what its all about as this has really split press reaction.

[dxb335d]

I aint seen a 135i coupe yet in the flesh no, well tell a lie, i caught a climpse of one on the A406 one night but cant classify it as a real '' in the metal viewing'' as it was so far away and it was only for a second.

Not for one second do i think i am driving the wrong car. The 3 series is leagues ahead in the beauty stakes. For me its the better car. I do like the 1er coupe tho and with procede it will be an absolute animal.

[miopyk]

I think you guys are missing the point. Forget what it looks like, think of the twin turbo V8. And you thought a twin turbo straight 6 was good.

Miopyk

[Gibbo]

Originally Posted by miopyk

I think you guys are missing the point. Forget what it looks like, think of the twin turbo V8. And you thought a twin turbo straight 6 was good.

Miopyk

Great engine but in the wrong body. In the 3/5 or 6 it will be great, but they won't put it in the 3 because of the M3.

[FirstClass]

It's brilliant imo.

[Steve A]

The looks WILL grow on everyone.

I think BMW will sell everyone they can make, there are alot of image concious people out there who want to be seen in the latest, and boy will they be seen.

Why the fuck have they decided to call the 4.4 twin turbo model Xdrive50i i will never know......

it'll do about 15mpg, what a pointless fucking car.

[Gibbo]

Originally Posted by Steve A

it'll do about 15mpg, what a pointless fucking car.

With Carlos driving it will be lucky to see 5mpg

[SDRX]

The V8 twin turbo is engineering masterpiece. With that power and sound, who cares about economy!!! lol

Fair point, that engine is very anti the current political convenience of bashing gas guzzlers!!! My brother (for some unknown reason) drives a Range Rover supercharged which gives an average of 13mpg in town. The X6 twin turbo will be seen with the same eyes.

[hotrod2448]

Since when do coupe's come with 4 doors?

God I hate marketing people.

I am very interested in the engine though. I've never seen anyone mount the turbos in between the banks and it makes no sense to me. It looks cool but not practical. It looks like they blow right into the intake manifold. How the hell do you use an intercooler in that configuration? Unless they are not planning to which, will most likely limit the amount of "fun" you can have tuning it. Plus your exhaust now has to run over the valve covers to get to them. I'm betting that changes before production.

I also think the active air damns are pretty cool but, I see them being open most of the time given how hot the engine bay in these cars are.

[scotw]

Originally Posted by Steve A

The looks WILL grow on everyone.

I think BMW will sell everyone they can make, there are alot of image concious people out there who want to be seen in the latest, and boy will they be seen.

Why the fuck have they decided to call the 4.4 twin turbo model Xdrive50i i will never know......

it'll do about 15mpg, what a pointless fucking car.

Couldn't agree more, the fashion victims will buy it to be seen it in and the economy will be horrible.

[scotw]

the current political convenience of bashing gas guzzlers!!!

Its not just the PC group. In these days of high oil prices, ME instability and global warming, moving to more economical cars is sensible. Doesn't mean we can't still have fun, the 320D is great at economy and good at performance, the 335D great at performance (especially the one of a certain bird round here), good at economy.

We can have it pretty much both ways, so it makes sense. But cars that can't manage 20mpg, that doesn't make sense.

[mikem]

I think the X6 looks great and they`ll sell bucket loads. As for practicality, I doubt if most X5`s ever carry more than 4 people anyway.The old X5 never came with a 7 seat option and I don`t think this new X6 is a lot bigger than the old X5, is it ?

I`m fed up of people moaning about the economy and the environment, if fuel goes up to £10 a litre, then good. There`ll be more empty roads for me to drive on.

[SDRX]

Originally Posted by mikem

I think the X6 looks great and they`ll sell bucket loads. As for practicality, I doubt if most X5`s ever carry more than 4 people anyway.The old X5 never came with a 7 seat option and I don`t think this new X6 is a lot bigger than the old X5, is it ?

I`m fed up of people moaning about the economy and the environment, if fuel goes up to £10 a litre, then good. There`ll be more empty roads for me to drive on.

Well said and i AGREE 100%. I am fed up with this constant environmentalist driven attack on motorists.