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      07-14-2014, 07:07 PM   #1
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CCB Kit worth some sacrifices? Opinions needed

So I put my order in this past week and am going back and forth whether to sacrifice some options for the big brake kit or not...

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For me to get the CCB I would sacrifice the full merino (to extended), exec pack (only really care for the HUD and comfort access - which i've heard only is on the driver / passenger front doors), and (one of either the adaptive suspension or lighting package).

Do you think the MCCB is worth the sacrifice of the options above? I've driven Evo's, and a Supra, so this is my first BMW, let alone an M3. Wanted to get your seasoned experience and feedback as I have till the end of the month to make any changes to my order. I am not planning on modifying the car at all so it will sit as is.

Any feedback would greatly be appreciated. Stock brakes good enough? Would not getting some packages effect the resale value much from previous version history?

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      07-14-2014, 07:09 PM   #2
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IMHO, it would be easy to add CCB/BBK later. You can't do the same with the exec pack or full leather. Most people don't need the CCBs and the stock brakes are good enough.
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Not worth the sacrifice IMO. You're giving up a whole lot for very little
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So I put my order in this past week and am going back and forth whether to sacrifice some options for the big brake kit or not...

Current order:
M3 Sedan
Mineral White
19" Black Wheels
Full Black Merino $2650 (upgrade from extended)
Exec. Package $4300
Lighting Package $1900
Adaptive Suspension $1000
DCT
H&K Sound system

For me to get the CCB I would sacrifice the full merino (to extended), exec pack (only really care for the HUD and comfort access - which i've heard only is on the driver / passenger front doors), and (one of either the adaptive suspension or lighting package).

Do you think the MCCB is worth the sacrifice of the options above? I've driven Evo's, and a Supra, so this is my first BMW, let alone an M3. Wanted to get your seasoned experience and feedback as I have till the end of the month to make any changes to my order. I am not planning on modifying the car at all so it will sit as is.

Any feedback would greatly be appreciated. Stock brakes good enough? Would not getting some packages effect the resale value much from previous version history?

thanks,
Eugene
A BBK is ALWAYS an easy add-on. Not so much for full leather and CA. IMHO, I wouldn't get the CCB's.
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      07-14-2014, 07:36 PM   #5
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CCB is good if you are going to track it alot. Like the others said though, you can easily add that later, you can't add the other stuff you mentioned later.
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      07-14-2014, 07:48 PM   #6
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Thank you for the quick replies! Definitely makes a lot of sense keeping the other options, but the bug hit me hard for the CCB.

Got my production week of 35. Car should be at the dealer by the first / second week of Oct!!!
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      07-14-2014, 08:47 PM   #7
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CCB is good if you are going to track it alot. Like the others said though, you can easily add that later, you can't add the other stuff you mentioned later.
i dont understand this thought.

Ccb is god only if you track a lot? how much will rotors be?! is rather buy a bbk which will cost less in track maintenance costs.
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i dont understand this thought.

Ccb is god only if you track a lot? how much will rotors be?! is rather buy a bbk which will cost less in track maintenance costs.
The only people who say a ccb is good for track are the ones who don't track their cares :twocents:
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Yes, get the CCBs. You don't need extended leather or any of the fluff in the exec pkg. The CCBs are sick. I always go performance over luxury.

All of that being said, the stock brakes are pretty damn good and will be overkill for 99% of people buying this car.
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      07-14-2014, 09:01 PM   #10
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No, enjoy some of the luxury items you are going to get instead of the CCBs which you won't even be able to tell the difference in over the phenomenal stock brakes.

You'll use the leather, CA, HUD, etc everyday and enjoy it everyday. The CCB, not so much.
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The only people who say a ccb is good for track are the ones who don't track their cares :twocents:
All the porsche guys I know with ccbs who track theirs cars switch to steel brakes for the track.

But most people here, like me, will tell you to forgo the ccbs because that's what most buyers, like me, did (per sir loins thread). So you're getting sampling bias.

May be best to find out why people who have selected ccbs decided to get them. Most if what I've read, it's a combo of cool/bling/looks/etc
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The only people who say a ccb is good for track are the ones who don't track their cares :twocents:
All the porsche guys I know with ccbs who track theirs cars switch to steel brakes for the track.

But most people here, like me, will tell you to forgo the ccbs because that's what most buyers, like me, did (per sir loins thread). So you're getting sampling bias.

May be best to find out why people who have selected ccbs decided to get them. Most if what I've read, it's a combo of cool/bling/looks/etc
It's total bling ( and maybe some weight savings).

Most people that track these cars will have a hard time overworking the stock brakes.
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i dont understand this thought.

Ccb is god only if you track a lot? how much will rotors be?! is rather buy a bbk which will cost less in track maintenance costs.
The only people who say a ccb is good for track are the ones who don't track their cares :twocents:
exactly what i was getting at
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      07-14-2014, 09:30 PM   #14
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CCB is the most over-priced and least well understood option available for this car. It is not actually understood what the braking benefit is compared to the steel brakes.

You have a VERY experienced racer on here (Karussel) who has reported that full days of tracking the car on a high-speed track, with no cool down laps, and the stock steel brakes held up just fine. STOCK. Not track pads, not brake fluid changes, STOCK.

So, please, someone tell me what you are getting for $8k in the CCBs? They look cool? Kinda. But then, they represent a major potential issue if something hits them (they shatter easy), maintenance is a problem, god forbid you are in an accident the car will be in the shop for ages because CCBs take so long to produce and are not yet stocked up anywhere....

So to recap:

1. More ownership hassle
2. No known performance benefit yet, even under extensive tracking conditions
3. Probably able to nearly match their supposed performance with just track pads and fluid if you are a track junkie
4. Ridiculous overpriced cost
5. Look cool

If $8k had that little meaning to me, I wouldn't be buying an M3.
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The only people who say a ccb is good for track are the ones who don't track their cares :twocents:


So true
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CCB is the most over-priced and least well understood option available for this car. It is not actually understood what the braking benefit is compared to the steel brakes.

You have a VERY experienced racer on here (Karussel) who has reported that full days of tracking the car on a high-speed track, with no cool down laps, and the stock steel brakes held up just fine. STOCK. Not track pads, not brake fluid changes, STOCK.

So, please, someone tell me what you are getting for $8k in the CCBs? They look cool? Kinda. But then, they represent a major potential issue if something hits them (they shatter easy), maintenance is a problem, god forbid you are in an accident the car will be in the shop for ages because CCBs take so long to produce and are not yet stocked up anywhere....

So to recap:

1. More ownership hassle
2. No known performance benefit yet, even under extensive tracking conditions
3. Probably able to nearly match their supposed performance with just track pads and fluid if you are a track junkie
4. Ridiculous overpriced cost
5. Look cool

If $8k had that little meaning to me, I wouldn't be buying an M3.
Exactly, not to mention I've read several reviews as well where the bite of the CCB's takes a while to warm up compared to the steel brakes.

I would certainly skip on this option for the street. And most definitely if I tracked, I would just switch to a BBK.
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I'm in the minority, although I don't disagree with any of what has been posted. different tastes/desires.

I'm forgoing the Exec Pack and Lighting Pack to make room for CCB's (keeping the manual trans helps, too).

because race car...


EDIT: forget the math on the brake choice - it doesn't justify the CCB's. but nor does math justify any of the other options (exec, lighting, sound, etc.). at the end of the day, this car is a consumable, and you should go with what will make you happy. for me, just the sight of those monstrous gold calipers and ceramic rotors will put a smile on my face.
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I don't think its worth the sacrifice. They do "look" cool though
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Keep in mind it would cost $18k to replace just the 4 rotors.
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i wanted the ccb, then drove the m4 with stock brake. i ordered stock brake if that helps any. amenities you will appreciate daily vs a fraction of a performance advantage maybe a couple times in the cars life? first world issues…….
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Boogie1 - you comment on "first world problem" made me LOL!!!

I'm glad I posted up here my thoughts on this as it looks like a lot of people considered them at one point. It doesn't look like I would utilize them on a daily basis. I'll keep the other options.

Thanks!!

Anyone in the OC getting theirs soon? Can't wait till mine comes.
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I can't imagine paying over 10% of the value of the entire car for an option that really gives you no additional real-world benefit, and will potentially cost you substantially more in the long run. The replacement cost of CCBs is huge compared to steel and the number of situations where they can be damaged are far more. Have a hard off or go into a gravel trap at the track and one or more of your CCBs could be done to the tune of several thousand dollars per corner. And you have to be infinitely more careful removing wheels, changing pads, etc. (and plan to never take your car to any tire shop, etc., there's just too much risk some yahoo could scratch or damage a CCB).
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