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      03-23-2016, 04:08 PM   #155
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Sorry i may have missed it, but why does this one have Fxx prefix code instead of Gxx?
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      03-23-2016, 04:09 PM   #156
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Bmw should pipe fake sound outside the car like the do inside.
Actually, the F8X M3 and F1X M5/M6 are kind of loud. They're not AMG loud, but definitely louder than you would expect, sitting in the drivers seat with windows up.
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      03-23-2016, 04:15 PM   #157
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Where are M mirrors!!!!!!
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      03-23-2016, 04:30 PM   #158
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I really hope this one(m5) and the upcoming M's will have a different exhaust sound. The current annoying sound of the m cars is the reason I don't buy them. I was considering the 2015 m5, but it gave me a headache after the driving... m4-m6 they all sound horrible.
They have to do smth about it. Does anyone have the same complaints? My friend has the m4 and he says the same.
The V sounds ok

The M2 has been updated with better overrun characteristics
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      03-23-2016, 04:44 PM   #159
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Honestly, the only thing M can do to make the exhaust sound better is add some crazy, and I really mean insane, pops and cracks during throttle lift off, like the Jaguar F type. It doesn't make the car sound any better, but it sure as hell won't make the sound as boring as it right now in the current M3-M6 cars. I don't see any other way. When I drive an M car I want it to sound crazy. My opinion though.
Completely agree and was one of the reasons why I sold my M4 last month and picked up a '16 F-Type Coupe R. This cat is ridiculous! Manufacturers need to know we care about the sound a car makes
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      03-23-2016, 07:07 PM   #161
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No manual offering kills it for me. It's just not an M car with an automatic.....and it's certainly not a driving machine with one (aside from the few hardcore owners who will race at the track competitively and stand to gain something from few seconds advantage).

I know I'm beating a dead horse, but it's a sad sad day when you realize that an M car will no longer come with a manual transmission.
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      03-23-2016, 07:45 PM   #162
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The suspension looks very under-dampened - that's my biggest gripe with the non-zcp F10...way too bouncy and floaty for what it's supposed to be. Makes it feel loose. I do think they got rid of most of that with the zcp f10 but I hope the new one is sorted before it goes on sale...
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F90 M5 is confirmed with the same engine as the current F10 M5 (tweaks are possible of course) and xDrive only.
And yes. It, too, sounds vastly better than the current M3/4.
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It's going to be tough due to the intake manifold design, twin-scroll turbos (effectively 4 Turbos).
All this time I thought the turbos were mounted on the exhaust, not the intake. Must be the S63tu2 with reverse reverse flow cylinder heads. :
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      03-23-2016, 10:05 PM   #165
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Have you not seen an i8? They do just that...
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It's going to be tough due to the intake manifold design, twin-scroll turbos (effectively 4 Turbos).
All this time I thought the turbos were mounted on the exhaust, not the intake. Must be the S63tu2 with reverse reverse flow cylinder heads. :
Oh Christ there's always hecklers in the crowd here. I was tired (chemo does that to people)

Cross Bank EXHAUST Manifold + twin scroll Turbo + cylinder firing order = high pitch, even pulsed exhaust note.

F90 does sound to have a throatier intake manifold though.
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Suspension is the biggest disappointment I have with my F10 CP in normal driving. Spring Rate and damper never seem to be in harmony with each other unless the surface is smooth as glass.

F90 is going to have some new tech and should be much better than the current car.
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      03-23-2016, 10:49 PM   #168
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So I'll get to keep my turner muffler delete and dinantronics box for the next one?
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      03-23-2016, 11:07 PM   #169
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Hopefully, They tune the noise. Not a huge fan of the way it sounds. Sounds ALOT like the current F10 M5. That could be because they're using the S63TÜ again.
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      03-23-2016, 11:08 PM   #170
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E39 and E60 hit the nail on the head for best of both world cars. But the f10 went more for luxury and prestige and the new model seems to be even more so. I'm aware that my opinion doesn't matter to bmw but a manual is a criteria for me. I wouldn't buy an M car in a DCT as I feel it takes away from what the car is meant for (or at least was meant for). As an option it's great but to completely remove it breaks my heart.
The car is meant to go fast, and the DCT makes it faster. The f10 m5 was never going to have a manual gearbox but because there was demand from the US market they made an exception. It gives you excellent control and the driving experience is enhanced. Ferrari did away with them, Lamborghini did away with them and Porsche will likely do the same sooner or later. These cars are getting better and better because of the technology. Having a Manual gearbox is like attaching a keyboard and mouse to your iPad lol. Why incorporate inferior technology that will severely limit the potential of the vehicle? Should traction control be left out as well? It's a 4 door sedan built to be driven as a daily driver that can hang on a track. It's exactly what it was meant to be
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Bmw should pipe fake sound outside the car like the do inside.
Have you not seen an i8? They do just that...
Yup. There's a speaker in the exhaust.
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      03-23-2016, 11:13 PM   #172
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I only wish they'll make it sound better.
Going around the carousel it sounded horrible … bring on the active sound!
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Yaaahhhh!! More fart sounds when up shifting! :
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... Having a Manual gearbox is like attaching a keyboard and mouse to your iPad lol. Why incorporate inferior technology that will severely limit the potential of the vehicle? ...
Pro 6MT arguments:
- More engaging, more fun, more satisfying, "makes the car come alive"
- Less mechanical complexity
- Slightly less weight
- Possibly higher collector value in the (near?) future

Con 6MT arguments:
- DCT prevents expensive "money shifts" on track days
- Slower, worse fuel mileage
- DCT is better in stop-and-go traffic
- You are the weakest link and there's no hiding it any more
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These cars are getting better and better because of the technology. Having a Manual gearbox is like attaching a keyboard and mouse to your iPad lol.
And I can tell you that sometimes I would like to have exactly that. Touch usage may be nice and fancy, but similar to DKG you loose control. You may be faster sometimes, but it is not always what you want.

Everybody has different preferences...so from my point of view you guys overseas are the lucky ones, because here in the old world we are not able to buy a 6MT in a M5...
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Did I read that correct? xDrive only? As in, NO RWD OPTION???!
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