05-23-2016, 06:37 PM | #310 |
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Car does seem to have a bit of understeer but looks very fast in a straight line. Surprised how little body roll it has given the high ride height.
I've always been more of a 3-series fan but I'm interesting to see how much weight savings they can achieve on the new 5er. The rivals are pushing big the weight loss as well with the new models which will be great for us enthusiasts as CF production will become cheaper. |
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05-23-2016, 08:02 PM | #312 |
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I read in carbuzz that the next generation 6er will not have Gran Coupe they only going to stick with coupes
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05-23-2016, 08:49 PM | #313 |
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I am just looking for an M with Level 1 autonomous control in the form of Active Cruise Control. Since I have already grown accustomed to this spectacular feature I won't buy a daily driver without it at this point. If Porsche doesn't think this feature detracts from the purity of their proper sports cars, then BMW might want to check themselves when they think their AWD sedan with no manual option is above this feature. At the same time park distance control is seemingly totally M worthy? PUH-LEEZE.
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05-23-2016, 09:31 PM | #315 |
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?t looks promising except for the sound. Not saying it sounds bad but it just doesn't sound special if that makes sense. I know part of that has to do with turbos but the new amg's also have turbos yet they still have that character going when it comes to exhaust sound.
Am i missing something? If AMG can do it , BMW M should also be capable. Maybe i'm exaggerating i don't know lol |
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05-23-2016, 09:32 PM | #316 |
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Why is it that BMW M cannot come close to AMG as it relates to exhaust noise? Is it a lack of effort? Whilst this sounds ok, it doesn't sound as aggressive as any of the AMG V8s. The M devision might very well be better handler than their respective AMG counterpart, but an emotional sound is a very important part of the driving experience
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05-23-2016, 11:06 PM | #317 | |
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AMG (even on the new 4.0TT) use mono-scroll turbos and cannot implement cross banking so the uneven and out of phase exhaust note remains. Audi 4.0TFSI falls in between with twin-scroll turbos and separate exhaust manifold as for each bank. |
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But BMW was probably the first to combine 180 degree headers and turbocharging. |
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05-24-2016, 02:03 AM | #320 | ||
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And maybe a little understeer is the fastest setup for the Nordschleife anyway. It's definitely the safest for street driving. Quote:
To absorb bumps on the Nordschleife instead of hitting the bump stops and/or scraping.
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Exactly. Meanwhile BMW produced the i8 - the Prius of the sports car world.
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I'm really diggin the proportion of the car. Can't wait to see it without camo!
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05-24-2016, 06:10 PM | #327 |
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I would sure like one. And I think Van Meel is keen too given his background in Audi's Avant models.
But they will have the M550d xDrive Touring just as they have now as a sort of substitute. An M3 Touring is now unlikely due to the arrival of the first X3M.
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Touring performance cars are a dying breed unfortunately because of performance SUV's that almost drive like them but at the same time provide the elevated seating that lots of the targeted customer (40-50's) want, for better ingress and for the feeling of commanding the streets...
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05-24-2016, 07:24 PM | #329 |
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No please don't make the M5 even more luxury oriented. Keep it light and true to the E28 M5 roots. Of course some minimum luxury features are required in this class, but please please don't turn it even more into a Mercedes!!!!!
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