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      01-17-2021, 11:45 AM   #1
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Ordered my M5C. Replacing E63S AMG

Hi guys,

Used to be a regular here when I had my 2008 M3. Been driving a 2018 E63S AMG since May 2018. My lease is ending so I had to decide what to get. Between another E63, RS6, M5C, or M550ix (the practical choice).

I drove the M550ix last week. It had the B&W stereo option, this is important to me as my E63 has the upgrade Burmester 3D. Even with the the M550 in the sportiest mode, the car was boring as hell. Nowhere near crisp steering or handling, nor throttle response, as compared to my AMG. The stereo was clear in the upper register, but was a bit anemic compared to the Burmester which has far better bass response. The B&W would suffice and reminded me of my B&O that was in the Audi S6 I had before the AMG. I was really thinking I would get the M550 before driving it because it is more practical, better mileage, run flats or spare, etc...

The dealer had an M5 sitting next to the M550. They had no issue giving me the keys. Sitting in it felt like home with the sportier interior and seats. I was sold on startup. I drove it around for ten minutes and the decision was a no brainer. The car felt right, considering I drive an E63S. Hard to compare the two as this was just a test drive, but I prefer the snappy BMW iDrive, the M buttons, the look of the instrument panel, and the ride a little. The AMG stereo wins hands down. The AMG massage seats work better, and I like the active bolsters. Not deal breakers... especially since the M5 lease is much better!

I ended up ordering:

Tanzanite Blue
Y Forged Rims - black caliper
Black and Midrand Beige full interior w/dark aluminum
Competition package
Executive and Driver assist packages
B&W stereo
No moonroof
M Titanium Performance Exhaust
Wheel/tire/ding/windshield insurance

Car is $134,235 including guzzler tax and delivery. Discount is then $8055 plus $750 Corp rebate. Insurance is $3207. NJ tax is 6.625%. MF is .00071 with MSDs. Payment is $1653 a month with all rolled in and me paying $1343 up front ( I decided to pay for the exhaust as a Cap Paydown since I am thinking of it as an aftermarket upgrade, though it is not). The drive off payment is $3000 which includes first month. I had mentioned putting $3k down and they misunderstood and quoted $3k drive off. No biggie. That was the best I could do without battling and I think the dealer did a good job and I like my sales guy a lot. They offered that deal with zero haggle, although we discussed my insane E63 deal before they quoted me. They told me they would do their best and in my market they were in the ballpark for an ordered vehicle. This is 3yr, 10k fwiw.

Any suggestions to change before the build begins?

Now the wait starts....

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Congrats! Looks like a nice spec. Which dealer did you use? I see you’re South Jersey and I used Mount Laurel. In regards the RS6, just curious, did you go and drive it, or were you sold dead on with the M5 on the spot.
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Yep... Holman.

I did not bother checking out the RS6. Pricing would be more, and the car is not as quick. Plus it is a wagon! Lol

You nearby?

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Congrats! Looks like a nice spec. Which dealer did you use? I see you’re South Jersey and I used Mount Laurel. In regards the RS6, just curious, did you go and drive it, or were you sold dead on with the M5 on the spot.
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The 6 is pretty wicked looking though...definitely not the stereotypical wagon. If there’s no need for the added cargo space and utility, I suppose it’s just a waste then. Mt Laurel has a friendly bunch of people there and the individuals I dealt with were pretty enthusiastic towards the M cars. I’m about an hour north east of you at the Shore area.
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I have the AMG until May. Hit me up if you ever want compare cars.

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The 6 is pretty wicked looking though...definitely not the stereotypical wagon. If there’s no need for the added cargo space and utility, I suppose it’s just a waste then. Mt Laurel has a friendly bunch of people there and the individuals I dealt with were pretty enthusiastic towards the M cars. I’m about an hour north east of you at the Shore area.
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Sounds like a plan. Most definitely after u get the M, too.
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Welcome back dogears and congrats on the upcoming build.

I’m also in NJ (near Bridgewater) and just took delivery in November. There are quite a few of us here, I’m up for a gtg as well.
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I would add the Carbon Ceramic brakes and the M Driver's package which ups the top speed of the car.
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Hi guys,

Used to be a regular here when I had my 2008 M3. Been driving a 2018 E63S AMG since May 2018. My lease is ending so I had to decide what to get. Between another E63, RS6, M5C, or M550ix (the practical choice).

I drove the M550ix last week. It had the B&W stereo option, this is important to me as my E63 has the upgrade Burmester 3D. Even with the the M550 in the sportiest mode, the car was boring as hell. Nowhere near crisp steering or handling, nor throttle response, as compared to my AMG. The stereo was clear in the upper register, but was a bit anemic compared to the Burmester which has far better bass response. The B&W would suffice and reminded me of my B&O that was in the Audi S6 I had before the AMG. I was really thinking I would get the M550 before driving it because it is more practical, better mileage, run flats or spare, etc...

The dealer had an M5 sitting next to the M550. They had no issue giving me the keys. Sitting in it felt like home with the sportier interior and seats. I was sold on startup. I drove it around for ten minutes and the decision was a no brainer. The car felt right, considering I drive an E63S. Hard to compare the two as this was just a test drive, but I prefer the snappy BMW iDrive, the M buttons, the look of the instrument panel, and the ride a little. The AMG stereo wins hands down. The AMG massage seats work better, and I like the active bolsters. Not deal breakers... especially since the M5 lease is much better!

I ended up ordering:

Tanzanite Blue
Y Forged Rims - black caliper
Black and Midrand Beige full interior w/dark aluminum
Competition package
Executive and Driver assist packages
B&W stereo
No moonroof
M Titanium Performance Exhaust
Wheel/tire/ding/windshield insurance

Car is $134,235 including guzzler tax and delivery. Discount is then $8055 plus $750 Corp rebate. Insurance is $3207. NJ tax is 6.625%. MF is .00071 with MSDs. Payment is $1653 a month with all rolled in and me paying $1343 up front ( I decided to pay for the exhaust as a Cap Paydown since I am thinking of it as an aftermarket upgrade, though it is not). The drive off payment is $3000 which includes first month. I had mentioned putting $3k down and they misunderstood and quoted $3k drive off. No biggie. That was the best I could do without battling and I think the dealer did a good job and I like my sales guy a lot. They offered that deal with zero haggle, although we discussed my insane E63 deal before they quoted me. They told me they would do their best and in my market they were in the ballpark for an ordered vehicle. This is 3yr, 10k fwiw.

Any suggestions to change before the build begins?

Now the wait starts....

Scott
But what made you want out of AMG? Did u consider a new one? Just curious.
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How did you like the AMG? Coming from an M4 and want to try something new - was thinking '21 E63s.
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MB leases are stupid expensive. Very high MF. Would be like 1900 a month. The M5C performs better for a bit less. Plus I like change! I really did not like the MB infotainment interface too. I suppose I should have checked out the MBUX to see if it was better, but the last one was a disaster. Programmed by a five year old....



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It is great car. For the same $, the M5C is a better choice IMO. But, if you like stereos, the Burmester 3D in the AMG is crazy good. Superior to the B&W. Very noticeable. AMG has better exhaust too. Although my M5C with the titanium exhaust is still less $.

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Congrats on the new ride!

I think you are being too hard on the M550. This car has the same power as the old M5 F10 which was a beast at the time! Everyone understands the M550 is NOT an M5 but "Boring as hell" is a bit harsh in my opinion!!!


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Hi guys,

Used to be a regular here when I had my 2008 M3. Been driving a 2018 E63S AMG since May 2018. My lease is ending so I had to decide what to get. Between another E63, RS6, M5C, or M550ix (the practical choice).

I drove the M550ix last week. It had the B&W stereo option, this is important to me as my E63 has the upgrade Burmester 3D. Even with the the M550 in the sportiest mode, the car was boring as hell. Nowhere near crisp steering or handling, nor throttle response, as compared to my AMG. The stereo was clear in the upper register, but was a bit anemic compared to the Burmester which has far better bass response. The B&W would suffice and reminded me of my B&O that was in the Audi S6 I had before the AMG. I was really thinking I would get the M550 before driving it because it is more practical, better mileage, run flats or spare, etc...

The dealer had an M5 sitting next to the M550. They had no issue giving me the keys. Sitting in it felt like home with the sportier interior and seats. I was sold on startup. I drove it around for ten minutes and the decision was a no brainer. The car felt right, considering I drive an E63S. Hard to compare the two as this was just a test drive, but I prefer the snappy BMW iDrive, the M buttons, the look of the instrument panel, and the ride a little. The AMG stereo wins hands down. The AMG massage seats work better, and I like the active bolsters. Not deal breakers... especially since the M5 lease is much better!

I ended up ordering:

Tanzanite Blue
Y Forged Rims - black caliper
Black and Midrand Beige full interior w/dark aluminum
Competition package
Executive and Driver assist packages
B&W stereo
No moonroof
M Titanium Performance Exhaust
Wheel/tire/ding/windshield insurance

Car is $134,235 including guzzler tax and delivery. Discount is then $8055 plus $750 Corp rebate. Insurance is $3207. NJ tax is 6.625%. MF is .00071 with MSDs. Payment is $1653 a month with all rolled in and me paying $1343 up front ( I decided to pay for the exhaust as a Cap Paydown since I am thinking of it as an aftermarket upgrade, though it is not). The drive off payment is $3000 which includes first month. I had mentioned putting $3k down and they misunderstood and quoted $3k drive off. No biggie. That was the best I could do without battling and I think the dealer did a good job and I like my sales guy a lot. They offered that deal with zero haggle, although we discussed my insane E63 deal before they quoted me. They told me they would do their best and in my market they were in the ballpark for an ordered vehicle. This is 3yr, 10k fwiw.

Any suggestions to change before the build begins?

Now the wait starts....

Scott
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Congrats on the new ride!

I think you are being too hard on the M550. This car has the same power as the old M5 F10 which was a beast at the time! Everyone understands the M550 is NOT an M5 but "Boring as hell" is a bit harsh in my opinion!!!


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Hi guys,

Used to be a regular here when I had my 2008 M3. Been driving a 2018 E63S AMG since May 2018. My lease is ending so I had to decide what to get. Between another E63, RS6, M5C, or M550ix (the practical choice).

I drove the M550ix last week. It had the B&W stereo option, this is important to me as my E63 has the upgrade Burmester 3D. Even with the the M550 in the sportiest mode, the car was boring as hell. Nowhere near crisp steering or handling, nor throttle response, as compared to my AMG. The stereo was clear in the upper register, but was a bit anemic compared to the Burmester which has far better bass response. The B&W would suffice and reminded me of my B&O that was in the Audi S6 I had before the AMG. I was really thinking I would get the M550 before driving it because it is more practical, better mileage, run flats or spare, etc...

The dealer had an M5 sitting next to the M550. They had no issue giving me the keys. Sitting in it felt like home with the sportier interior and seats. I was sold on startup. I drove it around for ten minutes and the decision was a no brainer. The car felt right, considering I drive an E63S. Hard to compare the two as this was just a test drive, but I prefer the snappy BMW iDrive, the M buttons, the look of the instrument panel, and the ride a little. The AMG stereo wins hands down. The AMG massage seats work better, and I like the active bolsters. Not deal breakers... especially since the M5 lease is much better!

I ended up ordering:

Tanzanite Blue
Y Forged Rims - black caliper
Black and Midrand Beige full interior w/dark aluminum
Competition package
Executive and Driver assist packages
B&W stereo
No moonroof
M Titanium Performance Exhaust
Wheel/tire/ding/windshield insurance

Car is $134,235 including guzzler tax and delivery. Discount is then $8055 plus $750 Corp rebate. Insurance is $3207. NJ tax is 6.625%. MF is .00071 with MSDs. Payment is $1653 a month with all rolled in and me paying $1343 up front ( I decided to pay for the exhaust as a Cap Paydown since I am thinking of it as an aftermarket upgrade, though it is not). The drive off payment is $3000 which includes first month. I had mentioned putting $3k down and they misunderstood and quoted $3k drive off. No biggie. That was the best I could do without battling and I think the dealer did a good job and I like my sales guy a lot. They offered that deal with zero haggle, although we discussed my insane E63 deal before they quoted me. They told me they would do their best and in my market they were in the ballpark for an ordered vehicle. This is 3yr, 10k fwiw.

Any suggestions to change before the build begins?

Now the wait starts....

Scott
Honestly I agree with OP, The regular 5er is pretty boring. Aside from straight line speed, the G30 is pretty dull in the corners. I had a fully loaded 540i that I inherited for a year and was bored driving it. Its capable but lacking in feeling, too much body roll, numb steering, and just couldn't compare to its earlier predecessors in my opinion.
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Yeah 540i is a car preferred by many. So people have different desires. Several reviewers chose the M550i over the M5. Depends on what you are looking for. Most people are not trying to be Mario Andretti on public roads.
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Thanks... You understand. If I never had the AMG, I suppose the M550 would have been nice. But, it just is devoid of that sport connection I am used to. The throttle is way slower and has a built in dull feel as opposed to the M and the AMG. Maybe a throttle mapper device would help. Since I can afford the difference the M5 is a no brainer if I want that connection.

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Honestly I agree with OP, The regular 5er is pretty boring. Aside from straight line speed, the G30 is pretty dull in the corners. I had a fully loaded 540i that I inherited for a year and was bored driving it. Its capable but lacking in feeling, too much body roll, numb steering, and just couldn't compare to its earlier predecessors in my opinion.
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if youre into engine acoustics, i'd recommend the eventuri intake to compliment the performance exhaust post delivery.
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I have had a 545i (?) Sport and two 550i M-Sports (including one with Dinan Stage II tuning) and now have a 2020 M5C. I almost purchased the AMG E63 S instead of the M5 but determined that even on comfort the ride was too harsh. This was also the case with my wife's 2018 C 43 AMG. With respect to the 550s and the current M5, there is no comparison. This is why the cars are priced differently and have different features. Both great cars, but not apples to apples.
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This is a 3 year, 10k miles lease? thats not a lot of miles, i feel like I easily knock out 10k miles in a year
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