[scott@bmwhn]

Thanks Utenigma for the information. I'm planning on installing mine soon so I'll include my results

[utenigma]

Originally Posted by momo3605

Do you have the page from the manual regarding camber? I think my shop might've aligned me to non M-sport angles

It's in this post
http://www.f30post.com/forums/showpo...7&postcount=40

Additionally, the Rear data is on another page - here

That's 1 degree 30 min for non-sport, 1 degree 45 minutes for sport or adaptive

[utenigma]

Originally Posted by scott@bmwhn

Thanks Utenigma for the information. I'm planning on installing mine soon so I'll include my results

I'd like to see your alignment sheet post H&R sports, if you have it

[scott@bmwhn]

hmmm, I did get a print-out some 6 months after install so I'll see if I can track it down

[momo3605]

Originally Posted by utenigma

It's in this post
http://www.f30post.com/forums/showpo...7&postcount=40

Additionally, the Rear data is on another page - here

That's 1 degree 30 min for non-sport, 1 degree 45 minutes for sport or adaptive

Thanks, could you check my alignment papers? It looks like they didn't do it to 1.75 degrees. Could it be because of aftermarket low offset rims? If anything i'd imagine there to be more camber when pushing the wheels out.

[utenigma]

Originally Posted by momo3605

Thanks, could you check my alignment papers? It looks like they didn't do it to 1.75 degrees. Could it be because of aftermarket low offset rims? If anything i'd imagine there to be more camber when pushing the wheels out.

No, look at his computer's acceptable range-your camber falls within the range

To me what this looks like is this tech just aligned toe, then checked that camber was in range then moved on

Personally I would have the alignment tech agree to the alignment I wanted prior to the work being done, and hold him to the specs I asked for assuming the specs are mechanically possible considering the condition of the suspension components.

I wouldn't accept a rear alignment where the camber was so different between the two sides

[utenigma]

Just realize what rear negative camber is going to do

All things being equal, it will increase rear cornering grip, decrease straight line acceleration grip

As for tire wear, for the normal driving/highway use, it will increase tire wear on the inside of the tire
For track/autocross, it will decrease tire wear on the outside of the tire

Your settings aren't "wrong" it's more about what you want to get from the car handling/tire consumption wise

[scott@bmwhn]

finally installed these on my car, I've got a track day on the 23rd.

i'll upload my spec sheet and see if I can locate my previous spec sheet


-Scott

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by scott@bmwhn

Yeah coil-overs will definitely give you the most adjustability but I want to retain my EDC so that complicates things

KW has a fix for that.

[scott@bmwhn]

Not looking to get that "involved"

[Bee Pee]

Would the M3/M4 F8x front or rear suspension arms and links fit to provide more camber on F3x or F2x series car, just like the E9x and e8x mods using OEM M car parts ??

[scott@bmwhn]

Originally Posted by Pave Dew

Would the M3/M4 F8x front or rear suspension arms and links fit to provide more camber on F3x or F2x series car, just like the E9x and e8x mods using OEM M car parts ??

With any luck they will, jurys out on this though until someone does some testing.

[verheizer]

has anyone done this modification in combination with 245 width tires on stock 8/19 ET36 rims? I am slightly worried to get a clearance problem at the inner side of the tire. Or in other words: would I need a spacer or is there plenty of space?

[DVC]

With 9" ET42 wheels and 245mm tires I needed a 5mm spacer to be sufficiently clear.
Your setup will run you about 6-7mm closer to the strut - but the tread width on your 245mm tire will be narrower on the 8" wheel than mine... not to mention, my tires are Michelin Pilot Sport A/S3s, which run wide - plus they have a curb rash rib on the inside and outside.

But to be safe, I'd guess that you'll need a spacer. Which will improve the looks quite a bit anyway, IMO

[marcoac14]

Originally Posted by utenigma

BTW, thought I'd share the page from the technical training manual where I'm getting this from.

It also talks about the swivel bearings in question

Is this for all F30s including the 320i?

[utenigma]

Originally Posted by marcoac14

Is this for all F30s including the 320i?

Yes

[marcoac14]

Originally Posted by utenigma

Yes

Thanks!

[Jimminez]

@Forgiven or anyone else who has had these installed, how long did it take? I have mine ordered and curious how long I should expect to have my car at the shop for.

[DVC]

Originally Posted by Jimminez

@Forgiven or anyone else who has had these installed, how long did it take? I have mine ordered and curious how long I should expect to have my car at the shop for.

Most shops will charge for/take about between 3-4 hours

[Jimminez]

Originally Posted by DVC

Most shops will charge for/take about between 3-4 hours

Thanks. That's what I figured.

[Forgiven]

I paid $180. (2.5 hours)

[Bee Pee]

Is this time to fit m3/m4 arms or negative camber swivel bearings ?