BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Today's Posts
BMW M5 F90 (2018+) General Forums F90 M5 General Forum    M5 CS on order

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      09-12-2021, 10:13 AM   #1
girdwood
Enlisted Member
66
Rep
43
Posts

Drives: G80 M3 - on order
Join Date: Aug 2021
Location: Utah

iTrader: (0)

M5 CS on order

Received an allocation for an October build (fingers crossed) for my M5 CS.

Now that things are getting a bit more real, I'm researching the nuts & bolts and am curious about the carbon ceramic brakes. I've read statements that they will effectively last the lifespan of the car "under normal driving conditions" while others have stated you'll burn through both pads and rotors in "2-3 track days". Both statements seem hyperbolic.

Does anyone have real-world experience with ccb and lifespan with both normal driving conditions as well as a few track days?
Appreciate 0
      09-12-2021, 11:22 AM   #2
AngryInch
Lieutenant
213
Rep
548
Posts

Drives: 2021 BMW M5 Comp
Join Date: Jul 2021
Location: Canada

iTrader: (0)

Get them, they are 50lbs lighter than steel rotors and I don’t think you get the brake dust like steel.
Appreciate 0
      09-12-2021, 05:46 PM   #3
Ex_Stig
Colonel
Ex_Stig's Avatar
2594
Rep
2,683
Posts

Drives: '24 X7 M60i
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Scottsdale, AZ

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2024 BMW X7 M60  [10.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by AngryInch View Post
Get them, they are 50lbs lighter than steel rotors and I don't think you get the brake dust like steel.
The CCBs are standard in the M5 CS.
__________________
Ex Stig

'25 M5 Touring (on the list, first slot)
'24 X7 M60i
'22 M5 CS - (sold)
Appreciate 0
      09-12-2021, 07:09 PM   #4
Dark-Knight
Private First Class
77
Rep
160
Posts

Drives: M5
Join Date: Apr 2021
Location: somalia

iTrader: (0)

^^^ correct, you have no choice if you want a CS, the reason people dont use them for tracking is the rotors are expensive and if you runoff into gravel and get the wheels full you could damage them because they are fragile, I think if you autocross and do an occ driving event theyre fine, if your a hard core track guy, buy a different car to fulfill that need like a GT3, The ceramic rotors are great no brake dust and much lighter, real race teams use them because money is no object for them.
Appreciate 0
      09-12-2021, 07:29 PM   #5
Day Laborer
Lieutenant Colonel
Day Laborer's Avatar
United_States
1746
Rep
1,890
Posts

Drives: M5 CS / iX 50i
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: NY, NY, CT, PA, MD, VA, DE, FL

iTrader: (11)

Garage List
  [0.00]
Plenty of track days (15+) in my M4GTS on the standard CCB rotors and pads.
Biggest advise I can give is replace the pads at 50% remaining pad (on track) as any less would increase the heat significantly, which can cause the fibers in the rotors to wear faster.

Ensure proper cool down laps + around the paddock too
__________________
http://www.precisionmedals.com/charts1/car.jpg
https://www.instagram.com/day_laborer/ (DM me from this account)
Email: nextlevelautobrokersdc@gmail.com
Part-time with Next Level Auto Brokers, LLC https://www.instagram.com/nextlevelautobrokers/
Appreciate 2
Ex_Stig2594.00
      09-12-2021, 07:55 PM   #6
girdwood
Enlisted Member
66
Rep
43
Posts

Drives: G80 M3 - on order
Join Date: Aug 2021
Location: Utah

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Day Laborer View Post
Plenty of track days (15+) in my M4GTS on the standard CCB rotors and pads.
Biggest advise I can give is replace the pads at 50% remaining pad (on track) as any less would increase the heat significantly, which can cause the fibers in the rotors to wear faster.

Ensure proper cool down laps + around the paddock too
Quote:
Originally Posted by Day Laborer View Post
Plenty of track days (15+) in my M4GTS on the standard CCB rotors and pads.
Biggest advise I can give is replace the pads at 50% remaining pad (on track) as any less would increase the heat significantly, which can cause the fibers in the rotors to wear faster.

Ensure proper cool down laps + around the paddock too
Cheers. Admittedly a completely newb question, but how do you determine 50% wear on the pads?
Appreciate 0
      09-13-2021, 07:19 AM   #7
Day Laborer
Lieutenant Colonel
Day Laborer's Avatar
United_States
1746
Rep
1,890
Posts

Drives: M5 CS / iX 50i
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: NY, NY, CT, PA, MD, VA, DE, FL

iTrader: (11)

Garage List
  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by girdwood View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Day Laborer View Post
Plenty of track days (15+) in my M4GTS on the standard CCB rotors and pads.
Biggest advise I can give is replace the pads at 50% remaining pad (on track) as any less would increase the heat significantly, which can cause the fibers in the rotors to wear faster.

Ensure proper cool down laps + around the paddock too
Quote:
Originally Posted by Day Laborer View Post
Plenty of track days (15+) in my M4GTS on the standard CCB rotors and pads.
Biggest advise I can give is replace the pads at 50% remaining pad (on track) as any less would increase the heat significantly, which can cause the fibers in the rotors to wear faster.

Ensure proper cool down laps + around the paddock too
Cheers. Admittedly a completely newb question, but how do you determine 50% wear on the pads?
Pad thickness; measure when new; then 50% of that. I like to use this brake pad lining thickness gauge- you can find on Amazon
__________________
http://www.precisionmedals.com/charts1/car.jpg
https://www.instagram.com/day_laborer/ (DM me from this account)
Email: nextlevelautobrokersdc@gmail.com
Part-time with Next Level Auto Brokers, LLC https://www.instagram.com/nextlevelautobrokers/
Appreciate 2
Ex_Stig2594.00
      09-13-2021, 12:48 PM   #8
shawnhayes
Major
1834
Rep
1,327
Posts

Drives: 22M5 CS,23X5E,24M3 CS,24 i4
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Virginia

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by girdwood View Post
Received an allocation for an October build (fingers crossed) for my M5 CS.

Now that things are getting a bit more real, I'm researching the nuts & bolts and am curious about the carbon ceramic brakes. I've read statements that they will effectively last the lifespan of the car "under normal driving conditions" while others have stated you'll burn through both pads and rotors in "2-3 track days". Both statements seem hyperbolic.

Does anyone have real-world experience with ccb and lifespan with both normal driving conditions as well as a few track days?
The fellow above is probably right. I've used CCB on track, and while AWESOME, if you use the pads all the way to manufacturer spec, they overheat. That destroys those rotors. I destroyed two sets of carbon rotors on track by using the pads down to the wear indicators. A very expensive proposal.

If you don't use them on track, they will probably last forever. We were never able to document almost any weight reduction under street use.

Shawn
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:57 PM.




m5post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST