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Nice. Keeping the front in line is a lot of work! Glad to see he got past the red car.
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08-17-2014, 06:37 AM | #3 |
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Awesome vid and thank you for sharing.
That was smooth for an old Porsche with non-assisted steering....he was jerking that wheel around to smooth it out and the front end was staying nice and steady. This really shows the advantage of Porsche's driving position AND those beautiful hoodlines/headlights. It's like really good rifle sights - it becomes instinctual to point her in the right direction. |
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08-17-2014, 11:56 AM | #4 |
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It was a battle for sure He is actually controlling the rear with the steering corrections, not much the front. Short wheel base, rear engine swinging, those cars were a handful in many ways
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08-25-2014, 11:38 AM | #5 |
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08-25-2014, 03:22 PM | #8 |
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i love track videos in general....but there are plenty of ppl on these boards that drive with all nannies off...its not rocket science or a special feat in itself.
i would say that the videos above show a very skilled driver more so than driving with nannies off. check this one out: |
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08-25-2014, 03:26 PM | #9 |
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hands point the front of the car where you want to go and throttle controls what you want the rear of the car to do. no?
want the car to keep following the front? steady on the throttle. want the car to rotate even more? give it more throttle or back off the throttle. (and the thousands of other things you can do with the throttle) |
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08-25-2014, 03:54 PM | #10 |
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Yes of course, that's how it works with a 911, especially a classic one; however, I think of the steering as the fine tuning control for the attitude of the vehicle. The level of throttle application is not precise enough, so the steering becomes the adjuster or balancer between the throttle/brake, and momentum.
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Here is my very first and poor trial to driving a 2010 997 GT3 Cup, slow as a turtle and I still managed to spin it with a very lucky save at the last moment: Last edited by FTS; 08-25-2014 at 04:26 PM.. |
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regardless of slow or fast...that looks (and even based only on sound) FUN!!! i wish i could do this some day. for now it will be in my family sedan even if you are slow on the corners, that corner exit must have been fast as hell |
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08-25-2014, 08:32 PM | #13 |
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I'd recommend the course, it was a very beneficial for advance learning:
https://www.porschedriving.com/Porsc...--GT3-Cup.aspx I attended the one-day school, the two-day requires 1.5 CBB kits |
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08-29-2014, 08:23 AM | #15 |
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Wow, he is really using ALL of the curb in the first video.
Here is another favorite: Drifting up eau rouge, talk about committing!
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10-01-2014, 07:39 PM | #19 |
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Does anyone actually drive on the track with the aids on?
I have always had to turn them completely off to make any progress at all. Now the only cars I have tracked that had nannies were my e90 m3 and my e39 M5. I just got my F80 M3. Only did some parade laps because I'm not through break in yet. But I can already tell all traction control has to be off. Not sure what I'll do with the rev matching manual...it may have some benefit.
How do the nannies of other modern cars compare? Like Porsches? Can they be used to benefit on the track? My primary track car is a vintage 911.....so I'm used to steering with my foot. |
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10-01-2014, 10:05 PM | #20 |
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My experience with Porsches is that PSM is very intrusive as well. When you turn the on the Sport button, which is equivalent to MDM I think, the car is drivable 8/10ths, but to go beyond that you have to turn it off as well. The good thing since the 997.2 model 911s, PSM and TC settings are separate, so you can turn off PSM and leave TC on which is near perfect for me. Although 996 and 997.1 GT cars did not even have PSM, 997.1 just had TC. The 987/981 platforms do not have this ability, so it forces you turn it all off.
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