how divisive is the sunroof?

kolosy · 05-30-2023, 09:30 AM

i know on the M3, sunroofs are the death knell for resale. no one wants 'em (regardless of how silly the notion of it factually mattering is). does the same happen in these parts? looking at a perfect spec car for me, but it's got a sunroof. i don't think i care, and it's a lease so i don't care about terminal resale either, but i like having optionality if i need to bail early..

Greer · 05-30-2023, 11:26 AM

They are not bad for re-sale because the M5 is more of a luxury car than the M3. That being said, my own personal preference is that I would only own one with a carbon fiber roof.

Luminous · 05-31-2023, 06:08 AM

My ‘19 had a sunroof and it was very noisy. Lots of squeaking and creaking, drove me insane and had to have the dealer work on it several times. Now my ‘23 has the cf roof and I’m much happier!

micvite · 06-02-2023, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Luminous

My ‘19 had a sunroof and it was very noisy. Lots of squeaking and creaking, drove me insane and had to have the dealer work on it several times. Now my ‘23 has the cf roof and I’m much happier!

Cam confirm even from New they creak and squeak. Had a rental in germany with like 2k km on the dash and it was driving me nuts.

Spunky · 06-06-2023, 11:16 AM

The creaks are because of dust and dry seals. They disappear with some rubber lube. Mine is almost always open, since weather permits that year-round in socal.

If you want a sunroof, get a sunroof. Get the car for you, not what the next guy might want...

pmsteinm · 06-06-2023, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Spunky

If you want a sunroof, get a sunroof. Get the car for you, not what the next guy might want...

Exactly that.

Afed · 06-10-2023, 08:03 AM

I wouldn’t mind a sunroof. Carbon is cool but I don’t race for a living, so there’s that.

kolosy · 06-10-2023, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Spunky

If you want a sunroof, get a sunroof. Get the car for you, not what the next guy might want...

um. thanks? i'm looking for how it affects resale, not life advice

ended up getting the sunroof. yeah, it creaks a bit. can't hear it when i close the cover (it's pretty heavy duty). still drive with the cover open most of the time so i guess it doesn't bother me all that much.

adeuel · 06-12-2023, 03:57 PM

Light > Lighter

I had a sunroof in my '18. Rarely used it and kept the shade closed most of the time. Ordered my '21 with CF roof and appreciate the additional headroom too.

FSHNGRY · 11-28-2023, 11:27 PM

After 2.5 yrs of ownership- ironically enough, today I admired my carbon roof and took a moment to just appreciate it. So much better than a sunroof. The roof line flows w the hood and trunk spoiler w the carbon.

Sunroof will does not have the same lines. Rarely used.

My .02

916_M5 · 11-29-2023, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Luminous

My ‘19 had a sunroof and it was very noisy. Lots of squeaking and creaking, drove me insane and had to have the dealer work on it several times. Now my ‘23 has the cf roof and I’m much happier!

My 18' has a sunroof and i Love to have it, but its sooooo creaky and noisy! More so in cold weather, how did they resolve this?

916_M5 · 11-29-2023, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Spunky

The creaks are because of dust and dry seals. They disappear with some rubber lube. Mine is almost always open, since weather permits that year-round in socal.

If you want a sunroof, get a sunroof. Get the car for you, not what the next guy might want...

Which rubber lube did you use? Mine is so creaky and noisy!

MunnyGuy · 12-17-2023, 11:58 PM

Gummi Pfledge works amazing on my 911.

Google nextzett 91480615 'Gummi Pflege Stift'

claycourter01 · 12-23-2023, 10:15 AM

I enjoy the sunroof in my F90. I think from the exterior, the CF roof probably does look cooler. But to me the more important view is from inside the car. I keep the interior sunroof liner open, and then the glass closed, so I have the extra sunlight and moonlight in the cabin, which really gives it an open feeling, without opening and closing the glass (and no wind). I keep it closed in the summer to keep it a little cooler but otherwise enjoy the extra sunlight.

j3o3t3 · 01-04-2024, 10:59 PM

I bought a M5C w/ carbon roof as I had no choice - ordering banks were impossible 1 yr ago , so I scored an absolute beauty from dealer inventory - however had I ordered one I would have 1000% ordered with a sunroof . I miss the optionality to open or tilt the roof , live in SoCal - it’s kinda mandatory .

If I get a ‘25 M5C , will order it with sunroof

TFBravo · 02-19-2024, 05:08 PM

Sometimes I wish I had the CF roof, just to enjoy the look from the outside, but thats about it. I like having the sunroof cracked and hearing the exhaust better when its colder out, and its nice to drive with the cover open at night or on cold cloudy days. In summer its too hot it keep it open actually.

Always lusted after sun roof cars, now having owned 4 of them, next one might be without sunroof if CF is still an option.

Pilatus · 02-21-2024, 01:06 PM

Buy the car optioned the way you want it, not for resale. If you are buying an M5.....you are already NOT buying to for resale as depreciation is amongst the worst

05-30-2023, 09:30 AM	#1
kolosy Colonel 1488 Rep 2,020 Posts Drives: over potholes Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Chicago iTrader: (2)	how divisive is the sunroof? i know on the M3, sunroofs are the death knell for resale. no one wants 'em (regardless of how silly the notion of it factually mattering is). does the same happen in these parts? looking at a perfect spec car for me, but it's got a sunroof. i don't think i care, and it's a lease so i don't care about terminal resale either, but i like having optionality if i need to bail early.. __________________ Current '21 DG X5MC, '22 X5M50i, '11 E90 M3 Recent Past '12 E92 M3 ZCP, '08 E93 M3, '18 F80 ZCP, '04 E46 M3 I think I have an M3 problem.
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Greer Colonel 1893 Rep 2,511 Posts Drives: 2022 M5 Competition Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (0)	They are not bad for re-sale because the M5 is more of a luxury car than the M3. That being said, my own personal preference is that I would only own one with a carbon fiber roof. __________________ 2022 F90 M5 Competition & 2019 M2 Competition 2019 F90 M5 Competition 2017 F80 M3 Competition 2014 F10 M5 Competition 2003 E39 M5
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Luminous Captain 743 Rep 893 Posts Drives: 2019 M5 Competition Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Westchester County, NY iTrader: (2)	My ‘19 had a sunroof and it was very noisy. Lots of squeaking and creaking, drove me insane and had to have the dealer work on it several times. Now my ‘23 has the cf roof and I’m much happier! __________________ 2019 SG M5C 2015 SO M3 6MT 2015 BSM M235xi
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Spunky Private 80 Rep 66 Posts Drives: 2019 M5 Join Date: May 2014 Location: SoCal iTrader: (0)	The creaks are because of dust and dry seals. They disappear with some rubber lube. Mine is almost always open, since weather permits that year-round in socal. If you want a sunroof, get a sunroof. Get the car for you, not what the next guy might want...
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Afed New Member 13 Rep 12 Posts Drives: BMW F90 M5 Join Date: May 2023 Location: New Jersey iTrader: (0)	I wouldn’t mind a sunroof. Carbon is cool but I don’t race for a living, so there’s that.
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adeuel Lieutenant 317 Rep 516 Posts Drives: 2021 Oxford Green M5C Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Rochester NY iTrader: (0)	Light > Lighter I had a sunroof in my '18. Rarely used it and kept the shade closed most of the time. Ordered my '21 with CF roof and appreciate the additional headroom too. __________________ Current: 2021 Oxford Green over Caramel M5C 2022 Ford Mustang Mach 1 : 2021 Yukon Denali : 2011 Ti Silver 128i 6MT, Koral Gone: 2021 Carbon Black X7 M50i : 2018 SG M5 2016 Med Blue 650ix GC : 2008 BSM 535i 6MT 1999 Jet Black 528i
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FSHNGRY Colonel 2337 Rep 2,029 Posts Drives: INDIVIDUAL F90 M5C LCI Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Fort Lauderdale iTrader: (1) Garage List 2021 BMW F90 M5 LCI [0.00]	After 2.5 yrs of ownership- ironically enough, today I admired my carbon roof and took a moment to just appreciate it. So much better than a sunroof. The roof line flows w the hood and trunk spoiler w the carbon. Sunroof will does not have the same lines. Rarely used. My .02 __________________ CURRENT: '21 M5\| FSHNGRY \| TARTUFO \| CCB \| MPE \| KW \| IND \| EVENTURI \| EISENMANN \| DINAN \| LOADED \| GONE: '15 F82 M4 \| YMB \| IND \| MPERF \| KW \| BM3 \| LOADED GONE: '11 E92 335IS \| BLKSPHR \| OYSTER \| LOADED GONE: '05 E46 ZHP \| LOADED \| DINAN STG3 PKG \| IG: @FSHNGRY
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claycourter01 Private First Class 50 Rep 145 Posts Drives: 2023 M5 Competition Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Southeastern US iTrader: (0) Garage List 2023 BMW M5 Competi ... [0.00]	I enjoy the sunroof in my F90. I think from the exterior, the CF roof probably does look cooler. But to me the more important view is from inside the car. I keep the interior sunroof liner open, and then the glass closed, so I have the extra sunlight and moonlight in the cabin, which really gives it an open feeling, without opening and closing the glass (and no wind). I keep it closed in the summer to keep it a little cooler but otherwise enjoy the extra sunlight.
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j3o3t3 Private First Class 131 Rep 187 Posts Drives: 2023 M5 Competition Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: San Diego iTrader: (0)	I bought a M5C w/ carbon roof as I had no choice - ordering banks were impossible 1 yr ago , so I scored an absolute beauty from dealer inventory - however had I ordered one I would have 1000% ordered with a sunroof . I miss the optionality to open or tilt the roof , live in SoCal - it’s kinda mandatory . If I get a ‘25 M5C , will order it with sunroof __________________ 2023 M5 Competition: Marina Bay Blue l Silverstone Merino Leather l Type 789 Rims l Executive Package l Acquired 12/30/2022 Prior BMW's 2011 550iMSport, 2008 5501MSport, 2005 5451, 1993 325iS
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TFBravo Some Guy 78 Rep 75 Posts Drives: 2016 GX460, 2022 M5C Join Date: Feb 2022 Location: Colorado iTrader: (0) Garage List 2016 Lexus GX460 [0.00]	Sometimes I wish I had the CF roof, just to enjoy the look from the outside, but thats about it. I like having the sunroof cracked and hearing the exhaust better when its colder out, and its nice to drive with the cover open at night or on cold cloudy days. In summer its too hot it keep it open actually. Always lusted after sun roof cars, now having owned 4 of them, next one might be without sunroof if CF is still an option.
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Pilatus Enlisted Member 8 Rep 29 Posts Drives: M5 C F90/M3 C F80/C5 TwinTurbo Join Date: May 2023 Location: Tampa, FL iTrader: (0)	Buy the car optioned the way you want it, not for resale. If you are buying an M5.....you are already NOT buying to for resale as depreciation is amongst the worst
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