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      01-31-2020, 12:20 AM   #111
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Literally BTbossman or what ever is making these forums difficult to engage with. I can't stand none sense banter and it's just really turning me off from participating on here.
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Literally BTbossman or what ever is making these forums difficult to engage with. I can't stand none sense banter and it's just really turning me off from participating on here.
Lol grow up. The run was clearly flawed. I know you guys have AWD but in my runs, major slippage has lead to a decrease in even my 60-130 as well.

Luckily I’ll be driving a Noelle M5c this evening. Looking forward to seeing what it can actually do in the slightly more tempered climate of NJ.
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Again you make me, a regular forum user who try's to participate and learn and teach what I've learned, you make me not want to participate, your arrogant and insulting in your baseline posts across the board. And you don't even post up data to back up your claims. It's a real turn off
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I'm on snow tires, its been cold here and on +3 to +4 psi I run 7.1-7.4 60-130, also low traction but by 40 I'm hooked.

So it seems this tune would be the equal of a JB map 1 or RC...which explains why they are offering the warranty, at these power levels there is very little risk. if you do something stupid thats another conversation.

850 crank HP must be assuming a 23% drivetrain loss in that math, which might have been true back in 2001

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Again you make me, a regular forum user who try's to participate and learn and teach what I've learned, you make me not want to participate, your arrogant and insulting in your baseline posts across the board. And you don't even post up data to back up your claims. It's a real turn off
I don’t mean to insult you, I just don’t know what living life as a beta is like. And can’t retort like one. Like I said. I’d be happy to provide a complete data set for the forum, especially the M5 brigade. I’m almost there. My personal car. With my full titanium exhaust. With my Noelle tune, is making claims, if you incorporate a 15% Dt loss

I really hope the same can be said for the M5 but I don’t know yet. what I do know is the OPs run is not the best he can do.
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I'm on snow tires, its been cold here and on +3 to +4 psi I run 7.1-7.4 60-130, also low traction but by 40 I'm hooked.

So it seems this tune would be the equal of a JB map 1 or RC...which explains why they are offering the warranty, at these power levels there is very little risk. if you do something stupid thats another conversation.

850 crank HP must be assuming a 23% drivetrain loss in that math, which might have been true back in 2001
Wait, my PSI on winters was like 34 to 35, kind of low.

What PSI do you recommend, and isn't low PSI giving you more traction because of a larger contact patch surface?

(Not that it mattered in 27 deg F cold, I was still slipping way too much at the first 40 mph also.)
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The major tuning players JB4, BM3, DME Tuning, literally all run low 10s. I'm sure any flash can get to low 10s once they work out the bugs. No reason to jump on them. If you think some company we've never heard of is going to somehow run way faster than all the other tuners that have worked with BMW platforms for years in that case I'd prepare to be disappointed.

No reason to jump down this guys throat though once they fix their tuning he will probably be running low 10s too just like everyone else.
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Wait, my PSI on winters was like 34 to 35, kind of low.

What PSI do you recommend, and isn't low PSI giving you more traction because of a larger contact patch surface?

(Not that it mattered in 27 deg F cold, I was still slipping way too much at the first 40 mph also.)
I run about 35-37 cold, anything more becomes too stiff. Even with a lower PSI the compound just cant hold the power... I wish I just had gotten all seasons as our winters have been pretty mild.

My snows were great at traction the first season, getting under a 2.9 to 60 this year has been hard.
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The major tuning players JB4, BM3, DME Tuning, literally all run low 10s. I'm sure any flash can get to low 10s once they work out the bugs. No reason to jump on them. If you think some company we've never heard of is going to somehow run way faster than all the other tuners that have worked with BMW platforms for years in that case I'd prepare to be disappointed.

No reason to jump down this guys throat though once they fix their tuning he will probably be running low 10s too just like everyone else.

the amount of testing JB4 has had as well as BM3 and some of the others is hard to compete with.

I'd love to see come carbahn data, outside of BM3 they might be a stronger performer out of the gate.
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the amount of testing JB4 has had as well as BM3 and some of the others is hard to compete with.

I'd love to see come carbahn data, outside of BM3 they might be a stronger performer out of the gate.
I’m sure they're all great options depending on what you’re looking for, but again, for me; and the sole reason I posted to begin with. The car has changed way more then just a power increase. It just feels special to me.

Other Noelle owners feel the same in my experience thus far. Would love if OP would chime in on wether he feels the same.
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Again you make me, a regular forum user who try's to participate and learn and teach what I've learned, you make me not want to participate, your arrogant and insulting in your baseline posts across the board. And you don't even post up data to back up your claims. It's a real turn off
I don’t mean to insult you, I just don’t know what living life as a beta is like. And can’t retort like one. Like I said. I’d be happy to provide a complete data set for the forum, especially the M5 brigade. I’m almost there. My personal car. With my full titanium exhaust. With my Noelle tune, is making claims, if you incorporate a 15% Dt loss

I really hope the same can be said for the M5 but I don’t know yet. what I do know is the OPs run is not the best he can do.
So much to unpack here it's ridiculous...

First off, yes, yes you did mean to insult him... It's what you do, what you've always done... Insult people who's opinions don't align with your rhetoric...

Second, you are the living embodiment of a "beta"... You're constantly seeking validation, in this case, validation with others with your "Noelle tune"... You may want to look up the definition of beta... I can't even count the number of times you've spewed about "so and so drove my car and they loved it" or "maybe op can chime in" or "get the tune and you'll love it as much as I do and countless others who have it..."

Third, WHO THE FUCK TALKS LIKE THAT?!! "I don't know what living life as a beta is like..." Jesus Christ, do you even hear yourself afterwards?

I don't even want to bother with the rest... It's so much cringe every time you you post...
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Again you make me, a regular forum user who try's to participate and learn and teach what I've learned, you make me not want to participate, your arrogant and insulting in your baseline posts across the board. And you don't even post up data to back up your claims. It's a real turn off
I don’t mean to insult you, I just don’t know what living life as a beta is like. And can’t retort like one. Like I said. I’d be happy to provide a complete data set for the forum, especially the M5 brigade. I’m almost there. My personal car. With my full titanium exhaust. With my Noelle tune, is making claims, if you incorporate a 15% Dt loss

I really hope the same can be said for the M5 but I don’t know yet. what I do know is the OPs run is not the best he can do.
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Can't they de activate member who adds nothing positive and is a trouble starter? It's a turn off he's on these forums. I've never not wanted to participate in threads before until this guy
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what the fuck is a beta?
He's trying to imply he's an Alpha male, which is why he "responds the way he does..."

Doesn't realize being a prick isn't what makes you alpha, nor would you need to announce you are if he was an alpha...

He's on THAT level so it's far worse than we thought...
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For a -2500 DA and almost -2 degrees of slope, that 60-130 is slow. Stock with that DA and slope should be right around that time. Was it spinning at all after 60mph? Hopefully Noelle can work on it with you and improve a little.

If not just get a JB4 and crank up the boost. I bet if you blew the engine doing that Noelle wouldn't be able to dig into the logs like BMW. They would probably assume it was their fault and repair it.
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I’m sure they're all great options depending on what you’re looking for, but again, for me; and the sole reason I posted to begin with. The car has changed way more then just a power increase. It just feels special to me.

Other Noelle owners feel the same in my experience thus far. Would love if OP would chime in on wether he feels the same.
Where is your dyno sheet you keep promising us? Clearly you're ducking us on the m2 forum, apparently hiding out with the M5s. Or still waiting for your photoshop license to come through?

If it takes you more than one day to figure out how to post a screenshot, you probably shouldn't have a driver's license.
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