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      11-16-2022, 12:49 PM   #23
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Ughh, would love to join you guys at WGI, but given my very fresh oopsie there, I promised myself I'd stay away next year until I get my feet wet again. I should probably stick to that.

While I have no vested interests, if you're looking at NJMP and can swing a Monday or Friday, I always put a plug in for moehpde.com. Good group and good value.
I don't think it'll be good for you to avoid WGI - from experience. The sooner you get back there and run your first lap past the bus stop, you'll make a huge leap in confidence recovery.
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Ughh, would love to join you guys at WGI, but given my very fresh oopsie there, I promised myself I'd stay away next year until I get my feet wet again. I should probably stick to that.

While I have no vested interests, if you're looking at NJMP and can swing a Monday or Friday, I always put a plug in for moehpde.com. Good group and good value.
Come to VIR with Max and I!! It isn't WGI but it's still a 'big boy' track!

I don't really want to do NJMP, but every year we do some hateful track somewhere, like eating vegetables...
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High five!! Any photos of the aftermath?
The irony is that I was focused on chasing the M cars in front of me…If you cant beat 'em, be 'em.

In all seriousness a lot to be learned from an on track incident, especially when accepting fault. Next year will be the first time out in the F82.
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      11-16-2022, 01:24 PM   #26
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The irony is that I was focused on chasing the M cars in front of me…If you cant beat 'em, be 'em.

In all seriousness a lot to be learned from an on track incident, especially when accepting fault. Next year will be the first time out in the F82.
Same side as my Vette.
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      11-16-2022, 04:41 PM   #27
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We graduated way past vette issues over here so they are not a worry - just drive away from them. Hopefully you east coast gents get there some day.


My Corvette was laid to rest at the barriers before turn 11 of Watkins Glen so we're making progress.
Mine was laid to rest at the barriers of Turn 1 exit at Road America.

Progress indeed😂
Damn torpeteo , you made it through the sand trap to the barriers?
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      11-16-2022, 05:22 PM   #28
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Come to VIR with Max and I!! It isn't WGI but it's still a 'big boy' track!

I don't really want to do NJMP, but every year we do some hateful track somewhere, like eating vegetables...
Haha, come on Shadow, carrots are good for you every once in a while... you ever been to NJMP? Lightning has some neat stuff -- getting the blind uphill T1 correct, pushing 110-120 on the right hand sweeper leading up to the 90-deg left-hander, maximizing speed through the bowl so you can rocket out of there... I personally think Thunderbolt has some charms as well with some of its very fast corners.

That VIR weekend is tempting but unfortunately I think we've already got out-of-town plans
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Damn torpeteo , you made it through the sand trap to the barriers?
No, actually exit of Turn 1 on the inside barrier. Oversteered beyond the point of my recovery.
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Haha, come on Shadow, carrots are good for you every once in a while... you ever been to NJMP? Lightning has some neat stuff -- getting the blind uphill T1 correct, pushing 110-120 on the right hand sweeper leading up to the 90-deg left-hander, maximizing speed through the bowl so you can rocket out of there... I personally think Thunderbolt has some charms as well with some of its very fast corners.

That VIR weekend is tempting but unfortunately I think we've already got out-of-town plans
Haven't been there in years. I need to get a little pos to go to Palmer, limerock, njmp and summit
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Haven't been there in years. I need to get a little pos to go to Palmer, limerock, njmp and summit
Limerock is like our backyard. Is it my favorite track? Of course not. But it's so low commitment; single day event, just over an hour drive each way, back home for dinner. No hotels necessary. Easy.
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Limerock is like our backyard. Is it my favorite track? Of course not. But it's so low commitment; single day event, just over an hour drive each way, back home for dinner. No hotels necessary. Easy.
If we ever get a daily like a gr86, then maybe. The low commitment part is attractive, but to go to a go kart track I prefer to own a go kart!
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Limerock is like our backyard. Is it my favorite track? Of course not. But it's so low commitment; single day event, just over an hour drive each way, back home for dinner. No hotels necessary. Easy.
I love LRP but the sound restrictions are the worst. Only my M4CS was ok there.
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My Corvette was laid to rest at the barriers before turn 11 of Watkins Glen so we're making progress.
Did this happen last May at the MVP event? If so, I was driving the M3 you passed right before this happened!
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My Corvette was laid to rest at the barriers before turn 11 of Watkins Glen so we're making progress.
Did this happen last May at the MVP event? If so, I was driving the M3 you passed right before this happened!
Yep! May 14th with MVP. I would say what are the odds but i guess generally good if on a bmw forum! 😂
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My Corvette was laid to rest at the barriers before turn 11 of Watkins Glen so we're making progress.
Did this happen last May at the MVP event? If so, I was driving the M3 you passed right before this happened!
Yep! May 14th with MVP. I would say what are the odds but i guess generally good if on a bmw forum! 😂
I was so bummed my video didn't record for the accident as it would have caught the whole thing. Glad you're OK! I'll be back next May as a passenger (sold vehicle) so will come say hi.
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I had a great time at WGI per Shadow suggestion with Potomac in May 2022. However, I am not sure i am going to make it this year.
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      11-25-2022, 09:49 AM   #38
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FWIW-Laps Inc is having a black friday deal on their track time if you're near chicago.

https://www.motorsportreg.com/events...porated-254236

I haven't run with them yet, but a couple of my buddies have and it is one of their favorite groups.
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Fwiw nw shelby is kinda a 'no rules' sort of org. If it fits octoberfast end of September with badger bimmers is a better event.
I can't stand no rules orgs, I may have to switch

Hey guys. I've run with the NW Shelby Club for a few years now and really haven't had any issues. Ive even seen them ask people to pack up for the weekend who were dangerous. I've run into more jackwads at the PCA (with or without a Porsche), then anywhere else. It happens.

Understand if you've had a bad experience. Maybe give them another chance. I'm planning to run their events twice (April's all weekend, last day for the summer event). The last day of the 4 day summer weekend event really thins out, Sunday July 2nd.

Give me a heads up if you go.
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Hey guys. I've run with the NW Shelby Club for a few years now and really haven't had any issues. Ive even seen them ask people to pack up for the weekend who were dangerous. I've run into more jackwads at the PCA (with or without a Porsche), then anywhere else. It happens.

Understand if you've had a bad experience. Maybe give them another chance. I'm planning to run their events twice (April's all weekend, last day for the summer event). The last day of the 4 day summer weekend event really thins out, Sunday July 2nd.

Give me a heads up if you go.
Everyone gets problem drivers.

* They don't do tech. Its 'yearly' tech. They don't even make you run through a sheet for every event and sign that you did it. Its a little concerning. I still tech my car every event, but I have less faith everyone is doing it.

* They don't do any vetting for who signs up for what group. This leads to way more inappropriately grouped drivers than I've seen in other clubs. Group 5 is first timers. group 4 seems to be everyone with more than 1 track day. group 3 even had people who clearly should be in a novice group. Group 1-2 see to be mostly fully prepped cars.

My issue is that they do way less than other clubs to avoid problems to start. Clubs with lower standards seem to attract errr... certain types of drivers. If I have a choice they certainly lower on my list. Its not like they don't have passing rules or something like some clubs. They are just very hands off which probably works fine in advanced groups but the lower ones... eh. Some of the people clearly need a little more structure.
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Ughh, would love to join you guys at WGI, but given my very fresh oopsie there, I promised myself I'd stay away next year until I get my feet wet again. I should probably stick to that.

While I have no vested interests, if you're looking at NJMP and can swing a Monday or Friday, I always put a plug in for moehpde.com. Good group and good value.
Fritz, do you have any specific MOE events planned yet?
I want to attend at least one Lightning event, preferably with MOE or PCA.
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Anyone interested in ozarks? I sort of want to drive down for a day but it would be more fun with people.
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Fritz, do you have any specific MOE events planned yet?
I want to attend at least one Lightning event, preferably with MOE or PCA.

So far for starters I'm thinking 4/3, 4/24, and 6/9 (all MoE) -- but only that last date is Lightning. He's got a 5/8 Lightning date but I can't make that one. You interested in Thunderbolt? I like it, some nice high-speed corners there.

On my to-do list to start looking at other available club dates...

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So far for starters I'm thinking 4/3, 4/24, and 6/9 (all MoE) -- but only that last date is Lightning. He's got a 5/8 Lightning date but I can't make that one. You interested in Thunderbolt? I like it, some nice high-speed corners there.

On my to-do list to start looking at other available club dates...
I may do 4/3, but more than likely 6/9 with Lightning. It'll depend on tires. Planning two LRP events to start the year and want to hit VIR Potomac mid April where I'll need a fresh set, so I may do 4/3 with some spent tires from LRP.

New track on spent tires. Hopefully that's not a bad idea.
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