[SliChillax]

Originally Posted by ChrisNich117

Very simple. They are carrying over the old engine. Therefore they will not use the new G designation. Mercedes AMG has carried over old engines to new body styles and then updated the engine with a life cycle refresh. BMW has never done this before with an M car but they will introduce a new v8 4L for the LCI. I think the M8 prototype is using that new engine simply because the sound is very different from the current exhaust notes. Next LCI M5 might be called the G30 M5, but time will tell.

Has nothing to do with the engine. The M3 is F80 while having a new engine and 3 Series is F30. I think it has to do with the chassis being so different from the normal version they just give it another name.

[danniexi]

F90 is just a development code. It has nothing to do with the chassis, body platform or engine.

[ChrisNich117]

Originally Posted by SliChillax

Has nothing to do with the engine. The M3 is F80 while having a new engine and 3 Series is F30. I think it has to do with the chassis being so different from the normal version they just give it another name.

Nonsense. It's the engine.

[Blindside_137]

And 2 pages of arguing chassis nomenclature...

I'm more interested rather that these game developers are given design information before anyone else it would seem. Is it possible that one of these guys recently attended that exclusive M5 unveiling last weekend? I think it's interesting that they would be trusted to keep this stuff tight lipped, or eyes in this case? Anyway, just curious how need for speed knows what it will look like.

[DaveCM5]

Originally Posted by Blindside_137

And 2 pages of arguing chassis nomenclature...

I'm more interested rather that these game developers are given design information before anyone else it would seem. Is it possible that one of these guys recently attended that exclusive M5 unveiling last weekend? I think it's interesting that they would be trusted to keep this stuff tight lipped, or eyes in this case? Anyway, just curious how need for speed knows what it will look like.

Or maybe the game developers are just best-guessing what it will look like based on the concepts that are out there?

[bimmer456]

Originally Posted by DaveCM5

Or maybe the game developers are just best-guessing what it will look like based on the concepts that are out there?

This is a pre-release render. The final version will be more accurate when the game is released in November and we have a better idea what the actual car will look like. Once the game is released the final rendering is pretty accurate.

[vladberca]

Yes, great renders👍

[advantage20]

So it appears as though the primary wheel design of this new M will indeed be those 7 double spoke wheels previously seen on spyshots and official camouflaged photos and videos. Not the usual 5 double spoke wheels that all M models have been carrying in different variations over the past years. Maybe in order to keep the 5 spoke sportier design for the M8 which isn't that far ahead in time, so as to set the M8 further apart from the M5 as not being just a new M6...

[3M TAPE]

What's the news here?
We all knew how it was going to look like..

[Remonster]

Originally Posted by danniexi

F90 is just a development code. It has nothing to do with the chassis, body platform or engine.

Correct, F90 has been in development for a long time and development codes are assigned to projects when they begin. They are unrelated to any marketing considerations since they're only really meant for internal use.

[kardboard]

Looks to have the M6-type carbon fiber roof, also. Or was that already confirmed?

[Powerslide]

Originally Posted by Jez_zza

Coz ''G'' sucks as a letter

Exactly - legend has it that when someone in Munich suggested "G90" - the M Division said "F that." The rest, my friends, is history...

[brucewinter]

The true car will be shown at the Frankfurt Auto show in September. No more guessing!

[raysspl]

Show the damn car already

[outie]

Originally Posted by 3M TAPE

What's the news here?
We all knew how it was going to look like..

Exactly. The CAD drawings and renders based on the CAD came out long ago and pretty spot on.

M has many changes that warrant a new chassis code?? It's just the badge and some body panels.

[Wills2]

Originally Posted by outie

M has many changes that warrant a new chassis code?? It's just the badge and some body panels.

[MFNATIK]

Very tame looking and only subtley different than the G30 550Xi

[remmib]

Originally Posted by ChrisNich117

Nonsense. It's the engine.

No, it has nothing to do with the engine. The upcoming X3 M will be named F97 even if the normal X3 will be the G01.

BMW just reserved the F80-99 for M models.

[IS3andME]

Originally Posted by ChrisNich117

Very simple. They are carrying over the old engine. Therefore they will not use the new G designation. Mercedes AMG has carried over old engines to new body styles and then updated the engine with a life cycle refresh. BMW has never done this before with an M car but they will introduce a new v8 4L for the LCI. I think the M8 prototype is using that new engine simply because the sound is very different from the current exhaust notes. Next LCI M5 might be called the G30 M5, but time will tell.

If this is true, people who bought the F90 M5 before the refresh will be pissed that the refresh gets a new engine, and of course more hp and torque.

[MFNATIK]

Originally Posted by IS3andME

If this is true, people who bought the F90 M5 before the refresh will be pissed that the refresh gets a new engine, and of course more hp and torque.

BMW has done this many times already in the past to various models. Most M5 guys lease anyways so really doesn't matter.

[ChrisNich117]

Originally Posted by IS3andME

If this is true, people who bought the F90 M5 before the refresh will be pissed that the refresh gets a new engine, and of course more hp and torque.

Why? Mercedes has done this for every generation. Bmw is simply copying a strategy that will reduce the cost and increase their profit margin. I 10000000% disapprove of this since M should have released a new engine, but they have continued to dilute the brand.

[ChrisNich117]

Originally Posted by remmib

No, it has nothing to do with the engine. The upcoming X3 M will be named F97 even if the normal X3 will be the G01.

BMW just reserved the F80-99 for M models.

I get that, but the logic behind their decisions to come up with these new codes wouldn't be necessary if they weren't carrying over old engines. There's a pattern here and that's why I'm throwing out this theory since this is the first time they have not been congruent with the code names. E39 m5, E60 M5, F10 M5, all had unique new engines. G30 carrying over the same engine? Bam! F90 lol. Patterns!!!!!!!!