[Tonymiabmw]

Originally Posted by adc

I think you're the one who's not getting it. The 5 series has always been very conservative in design, inside and out. Look at the evolution from E28 though E39, you can clearly see the family resemblance. The 5 was always supposed to be the classic pinstripe option of the time, with excellent dynamics and a super solid interior that ages well and doesn't scream "look at me".

The only time BMW went all creative on the 5 series was with the E60, and they were positively lambasted for it, crucified everywhere. And that despite the superb driving dynamics of the car.

So of course with the next generation(s) they went back to their classic design language and now some people are complaining about it. That's fine, they may lose the fashion crowd and keep the brand long term enthusiasts, a valid choice for them.


Meanwhile Mercedes has long decided to throw caution to the wind and drastically changed their designs, inside and out, with each generation. I'm not sure what that did to their sales, maybe it was a good move. But where older 5 series are now considered classics of the genre, nobody loves older E classes (just the really old ones before they started experimenting).

I'm a 3 series guy, mostly. So yes I would welcome a more daring design next time around, despite the fact that I like my M3 very much. But if I were to buy in the next segment, it would be a 5 series because of the understated, classic look and excellent driving dynamics. The E class looks too effete to me these days, just not a good vibe for an executive sedan. Personal preference and all that.

This is sex compared to the BMW to my eye. As I've said I've had 5 M cars always been a BMW fanboy. F90 just didn't do it for me. First time ever driving and sitting in an AMG I've felt like the AMG is equal(if not better) than the M.

[neohh]

Originally Posted by Tonymiabmw

This is sex compared to BMW to my eye. As I've said I've had 5 M cars always been a BMW fanboy. F90 just didn't do it for me. First time ever driving and sitting in an AMG I've felt like the AMG is equal(if not better) than the M.

Sorry, those purple curvy lines and circle vents are just too cute for me. Maybe for my wife. But then again it's all personal preference.

[Phatcat]

Originally Posted by neohh

Not sure if you seen the new A7, I think it's amazing.

But yes looks can be very subjective.

Yeah saw the new A7, like it better than the old one for sure.

[TheRealOrosie]

Originally Posted by Tonymiabmw

This is sex compared to the BMW to my eye. As I've said I've had 5 M cars always been a BMW fanboy. F90 just didn't do it for me. First time ever driving and sitting in an AMG I've felt like the AMG is equal(if not better) than the M.

"to my eye"...exactly. To mine it looks simply awful. I could not imagine getting into that interior every day.

No offense...guess I am bit more conservative. That just shouts over the top (to me).

[Tonymiabmw]

Originally Posted by Hill Country F90

"to my eye"...exactly. To mine it looks simply awful. I could not imagine getting into that interior every day.

No offense...guess I am bit more conservative. That just shouts over the top (to me).

If you are spending 120k on a super saloon should be a bit over the top. Not look exactly like a m550 imo. The only thing difference is the seats and shifter knob in the M5. BMW could have went a little bit farther to make the M5 feel more special.

[TheRealOrosie]

Originally Posted by Tonymiabmw

If you are spending 120k on a super saloon should be a bit over the top. Not look exactly like a m550 imo. The only thing difference is the seats and shifter knob in the M5. BMW could have went a little bit farther to make the M5 feel more special.

To each their own. That kind of over the top I wouldn't want in my car at any price.

[Tonymiabmw]

Originally Posted by Hill Country F90

To each their own. That kind of over the top I wouldn't want in my car at any price.

If carbon fiber and alcantara are not your thing. I guess owning a super car is out of the question then huh?

[TheRealOrosie]

Originally Posted by Tonymiabmw

If carbon fiber and alcantara are not your thing. I guess owning a super car is out of the question then huh?

I dont mind alcantara in places....and not a CF fan...especially puked all over the interior.

You do you, bro.

[onfireX5]

Originally Posted by Tonymiabmw

This is sex compared to the BMW to my eye. As I've said I've had 5 M cars always been a BMW fanboy. F90 just didn't do it for me. First time ever driving and sitting in an AMG I've felt like the AMG is equal(if not better) than the M.

Too feminine, too soft. More of a Bambi , less of a Rambo. But as long as you are happy, that’s all that matters. I’d find a great AMG forum and enjoy it.

[neohh]

Originally Posted by Hill Country F90

To each their own. That kind of over the top I wouldn't want in my car at any price.

Lol 100% agree. TBH I would be embarrassed to show the car to my friends with that "over-the-top" interior. I guess me and my friends are all conservatives. M5's interior is not great, but at least I won't have to hide.

[Tonymiabmw]

Originally Posted by onfireX5

Too feminine, too soft. More of a Bambi , less of a Rambo. But as long as you are happy, that's all that matters. I'd find a great AMG forum and enjoy it.

Feminine? The BMW has turn into an old mans car. The spirit of any sense of a sports car has been sucked out of the car. It screams mediocrity. Just sad to see BMW making such weak and boring designs. They can do better than fake aluminum carbon and ugly orange shift knobs. Maybe the M8 will actually be something worth looking at. The design team will probably spend more than 2 days doing something that actually feels exclusive for an M car.

[Tonymiabmw]

Originally Posted by neohh

Lol 100% agree. TBH I would be embarrassed to show the car to my friends with that "over-the-top" interior. I guess me and my friends are all conservatives. M5's interior is not great, but at least I won't have to hide.

Yeah you guys are probably old and live in the country. Guess I would feel the same if I was in my mid 50s and lived in Virginia or Wisconsin. Did you opt for the wood grain trim?

[neohh]

Originally Posted by Tonymiabmw

Yeah you guys are probably old and live in the country. Guess I would feel the same if I was in my mid 50s and lived in Virginia or Wisconsin.

Sorry I am 35 and live in Canada. No need to get offended. Just enjoy your car if you like it. Our opinion shouldn't matter.

[onfireX5]

Originally Posted by Tonymiabmw

Feminine? The BMW has turn into an old mans car. The spirit of any sense of a sports car has been sucked out of the car. It screams mediocrity. Just sad to see BMW making such weak and boring designs. They can do better than fake aluminum carbon and ugly orange shift knobs. Maybe the M8 will actually be something worth looking at. The design team will probably spend more than 2 days doing something that actually feels exclusive for an M car.

Just add a touch of pink.......

[neohh]

Originally Posted by onfireX5

Too feminine, too soft. More of a Bambi , less of a Rambo. But as long as you are happy, that’s all that matters. I’d find a great AMG forum and enjoy it.

Man you nailed it. I like your analogy.

[neohh]

Originally Posted by onfireX5

Just add a touch of pink.......

He opted for purple though....

[onfireX5]

Ironically, he’s “Trying to save us from ourselves “....

Crazy philosophy.

I actually did sit in a 911 and was debating it vs the M5 (after I sold my 2017 Zo6). M5 won me over. But it would be STUPID to go to Rennlist and post that up to “save” the “fools” that own 911’s.........geeeze....

[TheRealOrosie]

Originally Posted by Tonymiabmw

Yeah you guys are probably old and live in the country. Guess I would feel the same if I was in my mid 50s and lived in Virginia or Wisconsin. Did you opt for the wood grain trim?

Here we go. Insults and immaturity engaged.

Bye.

[Tonymiabmw]

I'm sure you are the type of guys that wear golf shirts and short khaki shorts. Anything with bit of style is feminine to you.

This is all the excitement you can handle. Enjoy the inside of a coffin.

[neohh]

Originally Posted by onfireX5

Ironically, he’s “Trying to save us from ourselves “....

Crazy philosophy.

I actually did sit in a 911 and was debating it vs the M5 (after I sold my 2017 Zo6). M5 won me over. But it would be STUPID to go to Rennlist and post that up to “save” the “fools” that own 911’s.........geeeze....

Insecurity maybe? lol

[mirob]

Originally Posted by Tonymiabmw

I'm sure you are the type of guys that wear golf shirts and short khaki shorts. Anything with bit of style is feminine to you.

This is all the excitement you can handle. Enjoy the inside of a coffin.

Hmm. I'd argue that Audi's new interior trumps both of these. So, in a way, you purchased the wrong vehicle, too, if interior is that important to you.

[Tonymiabmw]

Originally Posted by mirob

Hmm. I'd argue that Audi's new interior trumps both of these. So, in a way, you purchased the wrong vehicle, too, if interior is that important to you.

At least Audi changes their interior design concept unlike BMW. I've owned 5 Ms like I've said while these guys are excited for probably their first M car. I'm bored with same crap over and over again. I'm sure if this was my first BMW I'd find it exciting too. At least BMW could have offered a red or orange interior and some real carbon. They didn't even do that.