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      12-05-2019, 02:23 PM   #1
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Anyone switch from Pirelli to Michelin Pilot Sport 4S?

I just picked up a 2019 M5 Comp and it came with the Pirelli tires. Has anyone changed out the Pirelli tires to the Michelin Pilot 4S? If so, is there a big difference in terms of road noise and ride quality with the Michelins having less road noise and better ride quality?
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      12-07-2019, 10:01 PM   #2
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I made the switch to PS4S from the P Zeros and have been thoroughly impressed. They feel more solid, look better, and road noise seems better (somewhat hard to tell for sure since the P Zeros were worn in the rear).
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The Pirellis suck; they have always sucked. I just replaced mine this week to the Michelins and feel a world of difference - quieter and rides better. I had the exact same experience in my F10 M5.
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Thanks for providing some feedback on the Michelins versus the Pirelli tires.
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      12-09-2019, 10:33 AM   #5
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I've had them both on multiple cars and, IMO at least, the difference is more Internet chatter than reality. The Pirellis are good tires and I wouldn't change them out until they wear out unless you've just got money to burn.
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I've had them both on multiple cars and, IMO at least, the difference is more Internet chatter than reality. The Pirellis are good tires and I wouldn't change them out until they wear out unless you've just got money to burn.
agree with above ,
I will not buy the Pirelli myself , but if they come on the car I will use them till they wear out
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      12-09-2019, 02:50 PM   #7
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agree with above ,
I will not buy the Pirelli myself , but if they come on the car I will use them till they wear out
I also concur. I've had both on the F90 and I would use the Pirelli's until they were done. The one thing I did notice is that the Pirellis seemed stickier with road debris. Like little rocks would stick and be thrown around. The Michelins don't seem to do that as much.
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On this topic of switching tires, if done at the dealer, do they remove the residue of the old balance weights on the rim? Last few times I have switched my tires, they just rip them off but since the dealer is charging ~200 to mount, id hope they would.
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      12-10-2019, 11:29 AM   #9
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Has anybody changed sizes on their rear tires, say moved to a 305? A little more width would look sweet. My rear P zero's need to be replaced. Once all 4 wear out, will move to Michelin P4S4's
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I lost the tire lottery too , changed to PS4s after 1500 miles and car was different with better grip
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I've had them both on multiple cars and, IMO at least, the difference is more Internet chatter than reality. The Pirellis are good tires and I wouldn't change them out until they wear out unless you've just got money to burn.
I agree completely.
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It is a crime against humanity for any company other than Michelin to make tires.
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I switched to Michelin PS4's last week. Ran Pirelli's until 10k miles and the rears were shot at least for wet. Very poor traction. I didn't dislike to Pirellis but like PS4's much more and have run them on all my prior M cars
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I switched to Michelin PS4's last week. Ran Pirelli's until 10k miles and the rears were shot at least for wet. Very poor traction. I didn't dislike to Pirellis but like PS4's much more and have run them on all my prior M cars
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I switched to Michelin PS4's last week. Ran Pirelli's until 10k miles and the rears were shot at least for wet. Very poor traction. I didn't dislike to Pirellis but like PS4's much more and have run them on all my prior M cars
Agreed , michelins are the way
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Has anybody changed sizes on their rear tires, say moved to a 305? A little more width would look sweet. My rear P zero's need to be replaced. Once all 4 wear out, will move to Michelin P4S4's
I'm running PS4S 295s rear, 285s front. I couldn't come up with a solution with 305s rear that didn't lead to potential rubbing from the suspension drop or entirely new wheels. That said, I didn't look that hard since this is the approximate setup I've been running since my RS7. I'm not sure either of these two photos of both my F90s shows the improved stance but they're all I have from this angle right now.

I swapped out my Pirellis within 2 weeks and an much happier now: both road noise and traction were improved.
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I'm running PS4S 295s rear, 285s front.
on factory wheels or aftermarket wheels?
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on factory wheels or aftermarket wheels?
Factory... that was part of my earlier point: I don't want to replace the wheels since I switch the cars out every year or so.
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Factory... that was part of my earlier point: I don't want to replace the wheels since I switch the cars out every year or so.
do u have any other pics of how the wider tires sit on factory wheels?
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Factory... that was part of my earlier point: I don't want to replace the wheels since I switch the cars out every year or so.
do u have any other pics of how the wider tires sit on factory wheels?
I don't but I can take some a little later and post back. What are specifically looking for, stretching, something else?

I think the stock rears are 10.5" which is commonplace for mounting 295s from the factory. Or are they 10"s; ugh, I can't remember.

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I don't but I can take some a little later and post back. What are specifically looking for, stretching, something else?

I think the stock tears are 10.5" which is commonplace for mounting 295s from the factory. Or are they 10"s; ugh, I can't remember.
i think they are 9.5 and 10.5 stock. yep im curious how the tire shoulders sit. square, not bulging out. so sidewall angle in relation to the edge of the wheel.
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i think they are 9.5 and 10.5 stock. yep im curious how the tire shoulders sit. square, not bulging out. so sidewall angle in relation to the edge of the wheel.
Hopefully this helps.

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295/30/20s on stock 2020 M5 Comp wheels #2:
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For those of you like myself where the rears are worn, but the fronts still have some life left, are you going ahead and replacing all 4, or just replacing the rears? I'm at 11k miles on stock Pirellis and the rears are at the wear bars. Fronts have life left, but not sure if they will make it until the rears wear out again. In my F10, it was two sets of rears for every one set of fronts.

This is a lease. 3yr/10k per. Just trying to figure out tire management.

Do the PS4's wear better?
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