[Rafichicago]

F90 was lighter than F10 that was in general big disappointment. It was first 5 series that when came out that was worse in handling than Audi A6 that followed it. I am not so curious about 0-60. Current one could do 3s I have even seen 2.8 how much better it’ll get? 2.5? 2.6? I’d rather see improved driving experience when going around the corners and unmeasurable driving pleasure. I’d like it to become car that impresses me constantly rather than over 2.5s to 60.

[adeuel]

Looks like a mini Cadillac "batwing".

[pmsteinm]

Originally Posted by TrecNY

I can still remember the first time I drove the f90, I have the same exact smile every time I get into now

I have the same smile. When I first test drove one in 2019 after having owned my 04 and 09 CTS-V (both manuals) for a combined 15 years I wasn't expecting much of a difference (especially after driving an M550 before). But there is some secret sauce that makes the M5 fun, even when you are just cruising along. I always look forward to driving it in a way I never did with my 3 previous new cars. I know some of that is improvement in cars in general of the last 2 decades, but there is more to it than that, otherwise the M550 would have it.

If the G90 has it I will be interested. But as has been said the XM is not confidence inspiring. But take heart, if GM can make the CT5-V Blackwing after it seemed like they were killing the V series all together, M can find their way after a misstep too.

[Demon Barber]

Looking at the new hybrid M5 on the horizon following the disappointing XM fail, I've never been happier to have a paid off 2018 M5, purchased brand new, in my garage. 37.5k miles, fully PPFd from the start, M performance exhaust, radar and laser protection, oil cooler guard, and extended warranty through May 2025. Now with 5+ years behind the wheel as a daily, it still feels brand new and savage. Timeless, insanely capable, and soon to be nostalgic as hell.

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by Demon Barber

Looking at the new hybrid M5 on the horizon following the disappointing XM fail, I've never been happier to have a paid off 2018 M5, purchased brand new, in my garage. 37.5k miles, fully PPFd from the start, M performance exhaust, radar and laser protection, oil cooler guard, and extended warranty through May 2025. Now with 5+ years behind the wheel as a daily, it still feels brand new and savage. Timeless, insanely capable, and soon to be nostalgic as hell.

I don’t see the hybrid M5 as an improvement on the F90. It’s the first time I’ve ever felt that way about an M product.

[JOHNBMWM5]

Originally Posted by gblansten

I don’t see the hybrid M5 as an improvement on the F90. It’s the first time I’ve ever felt that way about an M product.

I have to agree I just got one of the very last F90 M5 Ultimate's imported to the UK this May, no more coming here.
I love these F90's and this one I will be keeping.

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by JOHNBMWM5

I have to agree I just got one of the very last F90 M5 Ultimate's imported to the UK this May, no more coming here.
I love these F90's and this one I will be keeping.

Absolutely beautiful color combo. Enjoy.

[Alberta]

Love it!

Enjoy in good health, John

[Maverik259]

Originally Posted by CosmicCharlie

Highly doubt rear fenders will be so dramatically flared. I’m hoping the LCI version will look better. Will probably keep my ‘21 m5c for a while and hide out in the x7 m60 I have on order until M5 conditions improve!

BMW ruined the X7 with its LCI so wouldn’t hold my breath lol

[Jakerx]

Originally Posted by Maverik259

BMW ruined the X7 with its LCI so wouldn’t hold my breath lol

Agreed. I had a 2021 X7 M50i and it was great. Sold it to my sister so it’s still in the fam. The LCI is hideous and so is iDrive 8.

[Greer]

Originally Posted by Maverik259

BMW ruined the X7 with its LCI.

In what ways did BMW ruin the X7 LCI?

[norbtx]

I dislike the cheap door handles.

[CosmicCharlie]

Originally Posted by Maverik259

BMW ruined the X7 with its LCI so wouldn’t hold my breath lol

I disagree with your opinion… I’ll just breathe normally and enjoy my new ride in a few weeks when it’s ready… lots of people also crowed that the f90 LCI ruined the m5, but it’s clearly superior to the pre-LCI in every way, soooo….

[Rafichicago]

Originally Posted by CosmicCharlie

I disagree with your opinion… I’ll just breathe normally and enjoy my new ride in a few weeks when it’s ready… lots of people also crowed that the f90 LCI ruined the m5, but it’s clearly superior to the pre-LCI in every way, soooo….

In every way… except that the new dash and idrive is crap. But so be it.

[jnotrom711]

Originally Posted by CosmicCharlie

I disagree with your opinion… I’ll just breathe normally and enjoy my new ride in a few weeks when it’s ready… lots of people also crowed that the f90 LCI ruined the m5, but it’s clearly superior to the pre-LCI in every way, soooo….

Ya, not so sure it's superior in EVERY way, but to each their own... Most to of the time, LCI updates are heavily subjective since they rarely do much in terms of actual upgrades. Just changing a few shapes or certain things here and there is fine, but that definitely doesn't make it superior. If we were talking f10 vs f90, Im sure most would agree with the argument that the f90 is superior in every way, even though that is subjective as well. But most would not dispute that. But an LCI change? The car is the same, with minor adjustments in aesthetics that may or may not please some peoples eye.

[CosmicCharlie]

Originally Posted by jnotrom711

Ya, not so sure it's superior in EVERY way, but to each their own... Most to of the time, LCI updates are heavily subjective since they rarely do much in terms of actual upgrades. Just changing a few shapes or certain things here and there is fine, but that definitely doesn't make it superior. If we were talking f10 vs f90, Im sure most would agree with the argument that the f90 is superior in every way, even though that is subjective as well. But most would not dispute that. But an LCI change? The car is the same, with minor adjustments in aesthetics that may or may not please some peoples eye.

The absolutism of my post was intended to be ironic… of course opinions on the merits of LCI changes are subjective. It was in response to the guy who stated the LCI ruined the x7 😂.

That being said, I do vastly prefer the looks and tech of the f90 lci and based on the renders of the g90 I’ll look to hold the f90 for a bit

[SSM5]

Originally Posted by Jakerx

Agreed. I had a 2021 X7 M50i and it was great. Sold it to my sister so it’s still in the fam. The LCI is hideous and so is iDrive 8.

iDrive 8 is much better than 7 IMHO. It's different at first, then after some time in it you realize it's better. Now after I drive my wife's 2023 X7 and get into my 2023 M5, the dash looks old. The graphics, colors and clarity are much better in 8 !! The larger screen size will be a plus over time especially if they improve it by the time the G90 shows up and offer more customization than they have on the X7 now.

[jnotrom711]

Originally Posted by CosmicCharlie

The absolutism of my post was intended to be ironic… of course opinions on the merits of LCI changes are subjective. It was in response to the guy who stated the LCI ruined the x7 😂.

That being said, I do vastly prefer the looks and tech of the f90 lci and based on the renders of the g90 I’ll look to hold the f90 for a bit

I understand, and maybe in his opinion it is ruined, thats fine. I happen to like the LCI M5 and I have a shitty old pre-LCI f90. LOL. But to me some of the things on the LCI are better, some are not.

I don't doubt the G90 will be controversial and possibly hideous, heavier, and slower, let's hope not. I agree I'll stick with the f90 if thats the case, and maybe a different brand all together.

I hope thats not the case, but time will tell.

[Rafichicago]

Originally Posted by SSM5

iDrive 8 is much better than 7 IMHO. It's different at first, then after some time in it you realize it's better. Now after I drive my wife's 2023 X7 and get into my 2023 M5, the dash looks old. The graphics, colors and clarity are much better in 8 !! The larger screen size will be a plus over time especially if they improve it by the time the G90 shows up and offer more customization than they have on the X7 now.

Exactly why in 5 years its going to look ancient. Not a good thing in my book. To each it’s own I guess. I prefer timeless design rather than one that will look fresh for 3 years.

[Bluesummers]

Front has potential minus the center rad piece. Hood lines look crazy good. Rear is dogshit like the i5. Might look slightly less unattractive than dogshit with tinted lights and a pro style wing.

[Jakerx]

Originally Posted by SSM5

iDrive 8 is much better than 7 IMHO. It's different at first, then after some time in it you realize it's better. Now after I drive my wife's 2023 X7 and get into my 2023 M5, the dash looks old. The graphics, colors and clarity are much better in 8 !! The larger screen size will be a plus over time especially if they improve it by the time the G90 shows up and offer more customization than they have on the X7 now.

Nope. I’ve driven loaner iDrive 8 vehicles and it’s terrible. The screen is high resolution sure, but it looks stuck on and completely out of place. Don’t get me started on the glare. All the functions hidden in menu screens? No thanks.

[Kponti]

The F90 interior is a big reason I left BMW in 2021. Everything about my 2018 M5 was superior to my w212 E63, but I preferred that ancient interior over the M5.

At the time I also had a 2010 535i and the M's interior didn't feel like a significant upgrade. The M felt stale boring and old even though it was well built and much better quality.

I was reminded of that a few weeks ago when I got a 2022 750i as a loaner. Felt like a slightly different/cleaner 535i from 10 years ago. Reminded me of why I wasn't such a huge fan of my M5's interior.

BMW knew they had to do something cos their interiors were getting old and very very dated. This newer designs will soon become what everyone loves after a short while