M5 Comp is 1.2 seconds quicker at VIR

onfireX5 · 10-11-2019, 08:54 AM

https://www.caranddriver.com/feature...ning-lap-2019/

trev230 · 10-11-2019, 09:04 AM

Love that track, one of my favorites. We raced the south course back in the day (motorcycles). M5 Comp was flying on that full course!

Neptune7 · 10-11-2019, 09:44 AM

Looks like the AMG GT63S is quicker though - rear wheel steering helping?

somer · 10-11-2019, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Neptune7

Looks like the AMG GT63S is quicker though - rear wheel steering helping?

5 seconds quicker too.... driver difference as well probably helping that some i'd imagine but definitely the quicker car, surprisingly. They reach the same exact speeds on the straights. AMG has more tire which probably helps.

trev230 · 10-11-2019, 10:44 AM

5 seconds is SUBSTANTIALLY faster on the track

Elanderholm · 10-11-2019, 12:03 PM

Big tire difference. Same with the gt3rs, but even more so.

Stealth7 · 10-11-2019, 03:14 PM

Awesome track!

Excellent performance by GT63--very heavy.

M5C driver < aggressive and skilled than GT63 driver. Hard to say from the video and driver, but the acceleration of the M5C looked like it still needed more ferocity! Again, could be the driver.

ZL1! $76k!

dalixz25 · 10-12-2019, 02:57 PM

It's not clear to me why the tests are not done using identical tire types across the board.

brad850csi · 10-12-2019, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by dalixz25

It's not clear to me why the tests are not done using identical tire types across the board.

Not all sizes will be available for all of the cars.

Plus is a sport cup 2 or pzero corsa really a realistic option for a 4 door sedan in every situation that car is likely to see?

In saying that, I’d have liked to have seen them on the same Tyre. Perhaps the M5 CS or M8 CS will come with Sport Cup 2 as an option

gpdriver17 · 10-13-2019, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by onfireX5

https://www.caranddriver.com/feature...ning-lap-2019/

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a29418181/1995-bmw-m3-lightweight-lightning-lap/

Unless the runs are back to back, the time is meaningless.

vtknight · 10-13-2019, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by dalixz25

It's not clear to me why the tests are not done using identical tire types across the board.

^This. Plus identical driver.

Next Phase · 10-14-2019, 11:58 AM

They use stock vehicles - some cars obviously come with Cup 2's while others do not.

They take the best time for the car across a number of different drivers.

Next Phase · 10-14-2019, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by trev230

Love that track, one of my favorites. We raced the south course back in the day (motorcycles). M5 Comp was flying on that full course!

It's my home track and I am thinking of taking the M5 out next month for Fallfest to hurt some feelings! Can't wait!

vtknight · 10-14-2019, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Next Phase

They use stock vehicles - some cars obviously come with Cup 2's while others do not.

They take the best time for the car across a number of different drivers.

Understood regarding the tires - but in some cases the cars do offer different tire options. Having the best tire option for each would be helpful. And - being honest - I did not know that CD uses all of its drivers for every car and picks the best time for each?

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Stealth7 First Lieutenant 147 Rep 389 Posts Drives: No BMWs Right Now! Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: SoCal iTrader: (0)	Awesome track! Excellent performance by GT63--very heavy. M5C driver < aggressive and skilled than GT63 driver. Hard to say from the video and driver, but the acceleration of the M5C looked like it still needed more ferocity! Again, could be the driver. ZL1! $76k!
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