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      10-11-2019, 10:25 PM   #23
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Thisnis great, but not at all helpful for those of us a bit further south. I use summer and all seasons because we rarely see snow/ice, and my summer tires don't do well at 35F. Would be nice to see a hot vs cold comparison of the two.
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Great for people who have never gotten this information... I'm just thinking about how nice the m3 looks in that green... and also with a reasonable grille lol sorry.

Oh yeah... season appropriate tires is pretty obvious.. who would wear galoshes to run a marathon?? or flip flops to climb a snowy peak?? Same idea... ish
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Summer tires are good in summer.
Winter tires in winter.

All Season suck all the time!
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After running winter tires for some years now, there's no question as to the advantages of using winter tires during the cold/snow/ice season. The various videos which show the advantages of winter tires are good but.... Someone did point out and you do see it in the comments section of the various videos, why don't these videos call out the exact tires they're using?

This is the only video I've found where they call out the exact tires they're using for the comparison:

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Summer tires are good in summer.
Winter tires in winter.

All Season suck all the time!
Fake news. You do realize there is four seasons and not just two, right?
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People should take note that these propaganda videos are made by organizations motivated to sell you tires.
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I just live in an area where all I need is summer tires
I am a native Floridian, I never knew there were variations of tires until I moved to Germany. Lol
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Summer tires are good in summer.
Winter tires in winter.

All Season suck all the time!
Fake news. You do realize there is four seasons and not just two, right?
I need to agree with this. I live in NH and our summers aren't long enough to make summer tires worthwhile. Some people run winters all year, but that's taking it too far. Most have all seasons, and unfortunately it's the best choice.
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I can never just run summer tires, I can see myself doing all season and winter swap at most...
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Due to lack of care and all the apprentices that are actually installing your wheels in the car, the smudges and indifference in every dealership I have been through, I decided that my cars are running on All-Weather tires.
I don't switch, I don't have wheels scratched by an idiot, I don't store, I don't carry two wheels in the trunk and other two in the back seats compromising the leather or its fine shape.

I am running fast and sporty and never had an issue. And where I live, summer is short, too much hassle for nothing. The summer toy has the summers, but my DD is an All-Weather.

Yeah, a vehicle with dedicated tires is nice, but it comes with pain if you don't do it yourself (and I don't).

So, I am running super fast in the summer with all-seasons and doing just fine, leaving behind a lot of cars with proper tires. I love the all weather.

Tires won't suffice anyway: It's about the driver too....
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Just put my winters on.....

PSSs in basement. All cleaned up, clay barred, and iron x. OEM winter set woth Pirelli Scorpions on with fresh ceramic coating. We had a couple cool nights and mornings and the PSSs just don't work around 45ish degrees. Slip sliding away....
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Due to lack of care and all the apprentices that are actually installing your wheels in the car, the smudges and indifference in every dealership I have been through, I decided that my cars are running on All-Weather tires.
I don't switch, I don't have wheels scratched by an idiot, I don't store, I don't carry two wheels in the trunk and other two in the back seats compromising the leather or its fine shape.

I am running fast and sporty and never had an issue. And where I live, summer is short, too much hassle for nothing. The summer toy has the summers, but my DD is an All-Weather.

Yeah, a vehicle with dedicated tires is nice, but it comes with pain if you don't do it yourself (and I don't).

So, I am running super fast in the summer with all-seasons and doing just fine, leaving behind a lot of cars with proper tires. I love the all weather.

Tires won't suffice anyway: It's about the driver too....
All really solid arguments you make here. Agreed
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Well said. I made the switch to dedicated snows and summers years ago when I was into Saab's and haven't looked back. As I was told, all seasons are really no seasons if you care about performance.
The all seasons on the X1 aren't bad in the summer but not as good as summer tires.
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I have yet to see a tire comparison video that includes an all-season tire. Then again, most of these videos are designed to sell more wheels and tires.
The answer is simple, it's about compromise: all season tires suck in summer and they suck in winter
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The marketing is directed at users running performance/dedicated summer tires. The best option for them are dedicated winter tires, e.g. snows, not all-seasons.

The marketing isn't directed toward users running all-season tires, e.g. grocery getters or some X cars. So I doubt, we'd see the addition of all-season into the comparison.
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The answer is simple, it's about compromise: all season tires suck in summer and they suck in winter
No, they don’t. They are doing excellent actually.
Go to tirerack and read al the thousands of reviews.
They are doing just fine.
Yeah, Quebec forced you to mandatory equip the vehicle with winter. I am not forced by my province (which is absolutely wonderful) and I am getting lower temperatures and more snow for a longer time than you in Montreal, yet, I never got stuck even in the ski area which sometimes is just not cleaned, and my X is just wonderful in every weather... All Weather...

And keep in mind. Some are all season, some are all weather. All weather have half summer profile, half winter profile.

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No, they don’t. They are doing excellent actually.
Go to tirerack and read al the thousands of reviews.
They are doing just fine.
Yeah, Quebec forced you to mandatory equip the vehicle with winter. I am not forced by my province (which is absolutely wonderful) and I am getting lower temperatures and more snow for a longer time than you in Montreal, yet, I never got stuck even in the ski area which sometimes is just not cleaned, and my X is just wonderful in every weather... All Weather...

And keep in mind. Some are all season, some are all weather. All weather have half summer profile, half winter profile.
I've been using dedicated sets of summer and winter tires well before they made it mandatory in Quebec, I've been doing so since my first car 30 years ago. I am also actually very glad that they did make it mandatory, it makes the roads much safer (statistically proven) without all the folks that think they are invincible in their AWD cars with all season tires.

All season/weather tires are an inherent compromise. It's physically impossible to design/manufacture a tire that is optimal in all conditions. You end up sacrificing both winter and summer performance. They work OK right until you need that extra grip and then it's too late.
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