[boost3dx]

Originally Posted by Melo_F90

Yes wheels save weight, they are not considered a performance mod like intakes and a tune. Wheels do not add hp... I purchased lightweight wheels to save time on my 1/4, but I do not consider them a performance mod because again it does not add hp. That's like me gutting the car to save weight would me taking out my rear seats be considered a performance mod? No it wouldn't lol...
As for why you bought 7k wheels, that's on you. Im sure they look good or at least I hope for that amount but to each their own.

Yes water got into my filters and caused water damage. Whats to stop dust or tiny rocks? More than likely on this guys friends car is that over time it built up and eventually caused damage to the turbo. Its not a common situation to hear about but you do hear about such things from time to time.

Intakes are a breather mod. If the tubing breaks off or a piece of the filter broke and flew into the turbo then yes that would be the company's fault, because at that point it would be the direct cause of turbo damage. People have had blown turbos and motors replaced without every modifying the car. If he can show that the intake itself was the the direct cause of the blown turbo then we can point fingers.

As you said "If the PG filters failed to do the only thing they are there to do, which is stop shit from getting into the intake, and as a result something was damaged, YES THEY NEED TO STEP UP AND FIX THE PROBLEMS. " The filter is to help REDUCE the amount of "shit" from getting inside of the intake. Their is no filter that stops everything from getting in unless its a closed airbox. Thus why every company has its own recommendation for when you should change your filters.

Man, you sure do sound like you work for PG.

So a "performance mod" can only be something that increases hp? If you want to go that route, the intakes for the F90 don't even had hp. They're for looks and sound. So no, they're actually not a performance mod.

Yes, if you're building a track car and you remove a bunch of weight by doing whatever, yes that increases performance. It's a "performance mod".

Your wheels, whether you think they are or not, are also a "performance mod" if they are lighter and increase performance.

Sorry, and no, you're also wrong on intakes don't stop everything. Little rocks? LOL. So, its normal for little rocks to get inside your engine right through an air filter due to "build up over time"? Please show me how little rocks can get through any normal, high quality filter?

On that note, when was the last time you heard anyone ever get massive damage to their engine or turbos when something got into the engine without failure of the intake? Sorry, but you're so wrong. Their job is to stop anything that can and will damage your motor from getting inside, water would be the only thing I can think of that would not be stopped if its enough anyway.

https://www.pgfilters.com/air-filter...er-the-engine/

Most air filters trap particles that are 5 to 6 microns or larger in size. They also trap 80 to 90% of particles that are as small as a couple microns in size.

In case you didn't know, a micron is 1-millionth of a meter. I think that's considerably smaller than some small rocks.

PG is a shitty company. I'm glad you're so very happy with their products and you feel the need to go on and on about how happy you are and how much you love PG despite the overwhelming evidence they are a POS company overall. Good for you.

[Melo_F90]

Originally Posted by boost3dx

Man, you sure do sound like you work for PG.

So a "performance mod" can only be something that increases hp? If you want to go that route, the intakes for the F90 don't even had hp. They're for looks and sound. So no, they're actually not a performance mod.

Yes, if you're building a track car and you remove a bunch of weight by doing whatever, yes that increases performance. It's a "performance mod".

Your wheels, whether you think they are or not, are also a "performance mod" if they are lighter and increase performance.

Sorry, and no, you're also wrong on intakes don't stop everything. Little rocks? LOL. So, its normal for little rocks to get inside your engine right through an air filter due to "build up over time"? Please show me how little rocks can get through any normal, high quality filter?

On that note, when was the last time you heard anyone ever get massive damage to their engine or turbos when something got into the engine without failure of the intake? Sorry, but you're so wrong. Their job is to stop anything that can and will damage your motor from getting inside, water would be the only thing I can think of that would not be stopped if its enough anyway.

PG is a shitty company. I'm glad you're so very happy with their products and you feel the need to go on and on about how happy you are and how much you love PG despite the overwhelming evidence they are a POS company overall. Good for you.

Have mentioned it before Im not in anyway sponsored by PG. As you stated if water can get in what is stopping dust or other small particles from getting in and building up? This could lead to eventually causing damage. There are multiple posts on the forums and debates about intakes adding hp with graphs. So we can agree to disagree on what you classify as a performance mod and what I classify as a performance mod.

If the company is as bad as you claim no one would be running their products. You are here joining the bandwagon of haters on a company. I have also stated before in a previous post everyone's experience with a company is going to differ. The person who started this thread feels as though they had a bad experience. Which is okay, they have even go on to say they like the product just not happy with the communication over a damager filter. In the 6 years of running PG across multiple cars I have never had an issue with any of their products in receiving them or running them on my cars.

But we are getting off topic. You are entitled to your opinion of thinking that if the company whose product was a direct cause of failure of something on the motor that the company should be held responsible and pay to fix the damage. And I am entitled to my opinion that even if they were the cause in the real world they wont pay and I personally don't expect them too. No one forced me to install the product. It sucks but that's the REAL world. Maybe if we lived in the PERFECT world things would be different. Feel free to continue, I have stated my view anything more is just a waste of time.

[induc916]

Originally Posted by jnotrom711

Just for fun ��

#bumpitybumpbump

[Jaymelo238]

F*** project gamma and their bullshit intakes! I got their silicon garbage intakes on my M5 and when they came in, I was like wtf did I purchase. Threw those shits away and got eventuri intakes and never looked back.

Don’t ever spend your money on cheap looking shit or people that don’t deserve it. We work too hard for our money to listen to them justifiying their bull shit. Stick with people that can offer great service and products!

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by Jaymelo238

F*** project gamma and their bullshit intakes! I got their silicon garbage intakes on my M5 and when they came in, I was like wtf did I purchase. Threw those shits away and got eventuri intakes and never looked back.

Don’t ever spend your money on cheap looking shit or people that don’t deserve it. We work too hard for our money to listen to them justifiying their bull shit. Stick with people that can offer great service and products!

Did you have problems with their service or just not happy with the quality of the product?

[yoandry]

free bump
So, all of this for what? They still doing businesses and per their instagram posts the shop seems very nice and big, lol. with still a lot of BMWs. I still dont know whats the actual issue with the filters. Do they fall apart and pieces get socked or the have poor filtering.
Well I ended up here because I was looking for a front mount intake for my m50i. per the picture below these fit and these arent the scilicon version. But pricey, Can someone find me the same in alibaba?

[Derosnec]

Originally Posted by yoandry

free bump
So, all of this for what? They still doing businesses and per their instagram posts the shop seems very nice and big, lol. with still a lot of BMWs. I still dont know whats the actual issue with the filters. Do they fall apart and pieces get socked or the have poor filtering.
Well I ended up here because I was looking for a front mount intake for my m50i. per the picture below these fit and these arent the scilicon version. But pricey, Can someone find me the same in alibaba?

All of this was because I like you wanted front mount intakes, I had bought some second hand and ordered new filters from PG directly. The mailed me damaged filters instead, when I contacted “support” they told me to kick rocks so that’s how I ended up on here.
However, the amazing members of this forum did some digging after and concluded that not only are PG filled with degenerates but they are directly buying products from Alibaba and repackaging them. That being said if you don’t care about any of the above by all means buy from them, I hope you don’t end up with a damaged set.

[Stlthnmrdrd]

Originally Posted by yoandry

free bump
So, all of this for what? They still doing businesses and per their instagram posts the shop seems very nice and big, lol. with still a lot of BMWs. I still dont know whats the actual issue with the filters. Do they fall apart and pieces get socked or the have poor filtering.
Well I ended up here because I was looking for a front mount intake for my m50i. per the picture below these fit and these arent the scilicon version. But pricey, Can someone find me the same in alibaba?

Its most likely not in alibaba, but pretty sure they just contacted their over seas supplier for a carbon fiber option.

Also nowdays ive been seeing a lot of new titanium exhaust brands that have very blue pipes (for example Valvetronic). These are also from china, they just tell their supplier to laser etch their logo on the exhaust. Wouldn't be surprised if PG releases a line up of titanium exhausts.

Examples:

https://www.instagram.com/jcc_custom/

https://www.instagram.com/tovi_performance/

Not sure about the weld quality, but who knows they could be decent quality.

[yoandry]

Originally Posted by Stlthnmrdrd

Its most likely not in alibaba, but pretty sure they just contacted their over seas supplier for a carbon fiber option.

Also nowdays ive been seeing a lot of new titanium exhaust brands that have very blue pipes (for example Valvetronic). These are also from china, they just tell their supplier to laser etch their logo on the exhaust. Wouldn't be surprised if PG releases a line up of titanium exhausts.

I mean everything nowdays are coming from China. But yes, a lot of company buying and reselling. Eitherway they dont fit my m50i.

[johnny5ive]

Anyone running these?


Look very similar to the PG ones.

[johnny5ive]

Got them in, they sound and look great!

[bxdinster]

im running them also.. they have a gd sound when you floor it but when u let go of the accelerator they dont make that "exhale sound" as loud as i'd like.. I am gonna try the rk tunes filters after the vortex ones get dirty

[bxdinster]

Originally Posted by johnny5ive

Got them in, they sound and look great!

Does your plate frame set ur parking sensors off ? My frame sticks outwards a bit more and sets them off so annoying.

[Icemanf90]

Bxdinster….save your money.The RK-tunes intake does the same thing.Only hear it when accelerating.can’t hear it well when just revving it

[pbonsalb]

Originally Posted by bxdinster

Does your plate frame set ur parking sensors off ? My frame sticks outwards a bit more and sets them off so annoying.

Mine does not. There is at least one plate frame that lets you choose your mounting holes — you may be able to position the plate so it does not interfere, Mine is from US Mill Works.

[johnny5ive]

Originally Posted by bxdinster

Does your plate frame set ur parking sensors off ? My frame sticks outwards a bit more and sets them off so annoying.

99.99% of the time they don't. Every once in a while it'll trigger but i think it's just because the license plate frame jiggled a little when parkiing. Otherwise it's fine.