[MNoob]

Originally Posted by shoei

He's trying to imply he's an Alpha male, which is why he "responds the way he does..."

Doesn't realize being a prick isn't what makes you alpha, nor would you need to announce you are if he was an alpha...

He's on THAT level so it's far worse than we thought...

Good Lord. Moving on...

The good news is that the OP walked the talk and gave data. In a normal, reasonable manner. That means others considering the tune now have at least one real data point. The other good news is that he has a ton of great options if Noelle disappoints, at a much better price point.

[btbossman]

Well our dragy just steamed OPs on my buddies Noelle M5c... so...

I’ll just wait until y’all cool down, and we get that dyno in tomorrow morn.

[JBA87]

Then share the results on dragy

But you won't

[Barry_S]

Originally Posted by btbossman

Well our dragy just steamed OPs on my buddies Noelle M5c... so...

I'll just wait until y'all cool down, and we get that dyno in tomorrow morn.

It's been "tomorrow morning" for quite a while now. Do you really have the data you say you have?
Time to post or disappear forever.

[AddyDaddy]

Originally Posted by btbossman

Well our dragy just steamed OPs on my buddies Noelle M5c... so...

I'll just wait until y'all cool down, and we get that dyno in tomorrow morn.

You have a crew of noelle tuned cars huh? M2 and now M5? Must be nice, kind of strange but...
So post up the dragys. Or stop posting BS

[AK M5]

Originally Posted by MNoob

Good Lord. Moving on...

The good news is that the OP walked the talk and gave data. In a normal, reasonable manner. That means others considering the tune now have at least one real data point. The other good news is that he has a ton of great options if Noelle disappoints, at a much better price point.

Thanks for the kind words. I'm a little surprised at how my thread has gone off the rails, but, this is the interwebs, Soooo...

-

Anyway, I really think I can do better.

I want to try different settings, like switching my tires & settings from winter 19" to performance 20", and trying different PSI and waiting until the temperature comes up to 50F minimum (looks good next week!? ) as well as different sport/engine settings... And peeling out a bit 1st to warm up the tires... May help?

I really think I can do much better!

It doesn't feel like it's giving me everything it's got.

** STAND BY **

I will try and have better DRAGY runs and SCREEN SHOTS and VIDEO of the dash & power/hp/torque display with the DRAGY video.

If I get much better runs, I'll start a new thread with those images /video because this thread is getting a little tired & WEIRD, ha ha ha!

No offense, I enjoy it,... But...
it's just... "off topic", sometimes, to say the least???

~ Aaron

[AddyDaddy]

Originally Posted by AK M5

Thanks for the kind words. I'm a little surprised at how my thread has gone off the rails, but, this is the interwebs, Soooo...

-

Anyway, I really think I can do better.

I want to try different settings, like switching my tires & settings from winter 19" to performance 20", and trying different PSI and waiting until the temperature comes up to 50F minimum (looks good next week!? ) as well as different sport/engine settings... And peeling out a bit 1st to warm up the tires... May help?

I really think I can do much better!

It doesn't feel like it's giving me everything it's got.

** STAND BY **

I will try and have better DRAGY runs and SCREEN SHOTS and VIDEO of the dash & power/hp/torque display with the DRAGY video.

If I get much better runs, I'll start a new thread with those images /video because this thread is getting a little tired & WEIRD, ha ha ha!

No offense, I enjoy it,... But...
it's just... "off topic", sometimes, to say the least???

~ Aaron

These noelle threads get convoluted by a single member who seems to cross shop threads and ruffles feathers. Anyway, like I mentioned above, play around with your settings. Their air your in is great for the turbo's. I look froward to a factual post on noelles tune

[btbossman]

Originally Posted by AddyDaddy

These noelle threads get convoluted by a single member who seems to cross shop threads and ruffles feathers. Anyway, like I mentioned above, play around with your settings. Their air your in is great for the turbo's. I look froward to a factual post on noelles tune

Well the fact is it’s making claims with 15% dt loss with both platforms we’ve tested.

Working on the data dump. It will be posted via new thread in the M2 s55 section

[Hockeytyme]

Originally Posted by AK M5

Thanks for the kind words. I'm a little surprised at how my thread has gone off the rails, but, this is the interwebs, Soooo...

-

Anyway, I really think I can do better.

I want to try different settings, like switching my tires & settings from winter 19" to performance 20", and trying different PSI and waiting until the temperature comes up to 50F minimum (looks good next week!? ) as well as different sport/engine settings... And peeling out a bit 1st to warm up the tires... May help?

I really think I can do much better!

It doesn't feel like it's giving me everything it's got.

** STAND BY **

I will try and have better DRAGY runs and SCREEN SHOTS and VIDEO of the dash & power/hp/torque display with the DRAGY video.

If I get much better runs, I'll start a new thread with those images /video because this thread is getting a little tired & WEIRD, ha ha ha!

No offense, I enjoy it,... But...
it's just... "off topic", sometimes, to say the least???

~ Aaron

You could probably just do 60-130's. They are easier to do and traction shouldn't matter at all. Also, don't worry about what the dash hp/torque says as that means nothing. I have never seen anyone post those. Just make sure you engine is in sport+ and the shift mode is all the way up and nothing else matters. Your DA is amazing and you should put up the best possible numbers from your car.

[Alaia04]

Base on the data you produced, what's OP's opinion about the tune? Would you recommend it for the price and output it gave you? Do you think you are missing anything(bolt ons) to produce better numbers?

[AddyDaddy]

Originally Posted by btbossman

Well the fact is it's making claims with 15% dt loss with both platforms we've tested.

Working on the data dump. It will be posted via new thread in the M2 s55 section

I'm sorry what do you mean "both platforms we've tested"? Do you work for noelle?

[AK M5]

Originally Posted by Alaia04

Base on the data you produced, what's OP's opinion about the tune? Would you recommend it for the price and output it gave you? Do you think you are missing anything(bolt ons) to produce better numbers?

Great question.

Here's a big update.

I contacted the performance tuning company in Boston that did the tune. I sent them all the dragy screenshots and times.

They said it is pretty obvious the car is reverting to stock performance as a safety because something is erroring out or something is wrong mechanically that is causing it to error & revert.

They want the car back in the shop to check all the error codes and dig deep. They said there are known rare issues with the early model M5 F90 Transmissions and that they are swapping some out with the new M8 transmission because it is much more bulletproof.

I am very encouraged that they contacted me instantly first thing in the morning after I sent an email over the weekend.

I'm going to hand them the car because they really want to make good on this and see it through. NO CHARGE of course. Stay tuned! More to come later. I'm very encouraged. THIS IS WHY I GOT THIS TUNE: Safety & warranty.

Now let's see if we can solve it and get real performance.

[DannyA]

I hate to break it to you, but there is a reason why the other tuning companies have settled on 750bhp mark. It is not possible to get what they have promised you with a stock car on stock fuel.

[AddyDaddy]

Originally Posted by DannyA

I hate to break it to you, but there is a reason why the other tuning companies have settled on 750bhp mark. It is not possible to get what they have promised you with a stock car on stock fuel.

There's also a valid reason there is zero proof the noelle tune (YouTube vids/any dragy users/timeslips/real dyno's) it's just discouraging a company just throws out a number and it makes the honest tuners look like their tunes are little Gaines compared to noelles "850hp"
If it was real leaderboards on dragy would show, you tune would show, customers would show dyno's and times. There is no proof

[Bmwusabmw]

Originally Posted by DannyA

I hate to break it to you, but there is a reason why the other tuning companies have settled on 750bhp mark. It is not possible to get what they have promised you with a stock car on stock fuel.

I had a great convo with the guys are Carbahn...who rates their tune around 775 crank hp and they said they made into the 800s originally but the fuel trims were too high to be safe, so they turned it down.

I think we'll all trust Dinan's companies word over these claims.

[Bmwusabmw]

Originally Posted by AK M5

Great question.

Here's a big update.

I contacted the performance tuning company in Boston that did the tune. I sent them all the dragy screenshots and times.

They said it is pretty obvious the car is reverting to stock performance as a safety because something is erroring out or something is wrong mechanically that is causing it to error & revert.

They want the car back in the shop to check all the error codes and dig deep. They said there are known rare issues with the early model M5 F90 Transmissions and that they are swapping some out with the new M8 transmission because it is much more bulletproof.

I am very encouraged that they contacted me instantly first thing in the morning after I sent an email over the weekend.

I'm going to hand them the car because they really want to make good on this and see it through. NO CHARGE of course. Stay tuned! More to come later. I'm very encouraged. THIS IS WHY I GOT THIS TUNE: Safety & warranty.

Now let's see if we can solve it and get real performance.

Does their tune have any datalogging ability?

[bm5bullit]

Originally Posted by ak m5

great question.

Here's a big update.

I contacted the performance tuning company in boston that did the tune. I sent them all the dragy screenshots and times.

They said it is pretty obvious the car is reverting to stock performance as a safety because something is erroring out or something is wrong mechanically that is causing it to error & revert.

They want the car back in the shop to check all the error codes and dig deep. They said there are known rare issues with the early model m5 f90 transmissions and that they are swapping some out with the new m8 transmission because it is much more bulletproof.

I am very encouraged that they contacted me instantly first thing in the morning after i sent an email over the weekend.

I'm going to hand them the car because they really want to make good on this and see it through. No charge of course. Stay tuned! More to come later. I'm very encouraged. This is why i got this tune: Safety & warranty.

Now let's see if we can solve it and get real performance.

time for more popcorn!!!!

[Bmwusabmw]

Originally Posted by bm5bullit

time for more popcorn!!!!

hmm handfuls of guys running low 10s, 100+ launches on the trans and 700+whp and not one trans issue. - I wanna know who got trans swaps

I wonder if they'll offer OP a refund should they not be able to fix the issue, they should be compensating him for his time at this point.

[AK M5]

Originally Posted by Bmwusabmw

hmm handfuls of guys running low 10s, 100+ launches on the trans and 700+whp and not one trans issue. - I wanna know who got trans swaps

I wonder if they'll offer OP a refund should they not be able to fix the issue, they should be compensating him for his time at this point.

The point is...
The issue was PREEXISTING the tune.
That's why it's not "taking" but reverting.

STAND BY!

This should be interesting...

:-)

[Hockeytyme]

Originally Posted by AK M5

The point is...
The issue was PREEXISTING the tune.
That's why it's not "taking" but reverting.

STAND BY!

This should be interesting...

:-)

It's actually not possible. The tune overwrites the original tables and numbers that are in the ECU. It's no different than programming software on your computer and making an .exe file to play Call of Duty and then it decides na, I think I'll go back to Pacman.

Maybe, he's suggesting the tune never overwrote the stock file, however both he and you said you noticed a difference in power. And I'm still confused as to how the transmission is playing into this.

I have talked to 1000's of guys on this forum and I think you're the first to have been told that the tranny is the cause of the tune not performing as hoped.

Run while you can, get a refund if at all possible and go buy a know tune that performs.

[Bmwusabmw]

Originally Posted by AK M5

The point is...
The issue was PREEXISTING the tune.
That's why it's not "taking" but reverting.

STAND BY!

This should be interesting...

:-)

What is the issue? you would have noticed an issue, CEL, Codes or drivability. - I've had lots and lots issues (40+days in the shop) and none fly under the radar.

I'd just hate to see them waste your time, nothing here adds up, I just hope they take care of you. I wish you had a way to datalog.

I'm sure you are a smart guy and you provided the data everyone was looking for, just dont let them take advantage. - I mean that seriously.

[Bmwusabmw]

Originally Posted by Hockeytyme

It's actually not possible. The tune overwrites the original tables and numbers that are in the ECU. It's no different than programming software on your computer and making an .exe file to play Call of Duty and then it decides na, I think I'll go back to Pacman.

Maybe, he's suggesting the tune never overwrote the stock file, however both he and you said you noticed a difference in power. And I'm still confused as to how the transmission is playing into this.

I have talked to 1000's of guys on this forum and I think you're the first to have been told that the tranny is the cause of the tune not performing as hoped.

Run while you can, get a refund if at all possible and go buy a know tune that performs.

We both know the trans is not the issue here