[Sencu]

Hello everyone.
First Post here on the Forum, hope the General part is the right spot for this kinda questions. Sorry in advance for my bad English.

What i need
Im in the market for a new Car and i would like to get some feedback from you guys wich own one of these.
So up for debate is is F90 comp or normal version.
I dont like SUV's and i gotta need 4 Doors and it has to be an M. The F90 would fit perfectly i sometimes have to take some coworkers with me (although rare).

I have read and heard on many Reviews that the noncomp is a lot more comfortable to drive. I dont know whether the Competition is too stiff on longer Trips or not. So far i have never minded the M2 Comps ride, the roads in Switzerland are pretty good so maybe thats why.
But knowing me i realy want the Comp to be honest
I haven't test droven one but im planing to do it soon. But i propably cant test one for an extendet time to realy see wich one i want for longer trips. You normlay only get cars for around 1ish hours.

Usage of the Car
Im mainly concernde about long drives i will be doing around 50'000 km a Year (31k miles). Trips range from 300 - 600 km a Day (186 - 372 miles). Most of these will be Autobahn/Highways. In Switzerland as we don't drive that fast you can normaly travel around 100km an hour (depending on traffic of course). So on cerntain Days i will be driving for 3-6 hours

F90 LCI
On the Post ''Presenting the 2021 BMW M5 (F90) LCI FACELIFT'' it was mentioned that the LCI would get new Damper settings. So will it be harder or more comfortable? Or even both depending on the setting?

Other than the question for Competition or not. I would be intrested in

• Harman Kardon vs Bowers & Wilkins
• Carbon Breaks vs Regulars
• I like the Silverstone leather, but im not so sure if maybe they will change color to fast with longer use.

Thanks in advance

[MysticBlue]

The difference between the comp and non-comp is pretty subtle. Passengers would never know the difference unless they rode in each of them back-to-back, and even then they might not be able to tell the difference. Sounds like you need to get the comp, otherwise you will always wonder if you should have, and always regret that you didn't.

[GhostOne_322]

Originally Posted by Sencu

Hello everyone.
First Post here on the Forum, hope the General part is the right spot for this kinda questions. Sorry in advance for my bad English.

What i need
Im in the market for a new Car and i would like to get some feedback from you guys wich own one of these.
So up for debate is is F90 comp or normal version.
I dont like SUV's and i gotta need 4 Doors and it has to be an M. The F90 would fit perfectly i sometimes have to take some coworkers with me (although rare).

I have read and heard on many Reviews that the noncomp is a lot more comfortable to drive. I dont know whether the Competition is too stiff on longer Trips or not. So far i have never minded the M2 Comps ride, the roads in Switzerland are pretty good so maybe thats why.
But knowing me i realy want the Comp to be honest
I haven't test droven one but im planing to do it soon. But i propably cant test one for an extendet time to realy see wich one i want for longer trips. You normlay only get cars for around 1ish hours.

Usage of the Car
Im mainly concernde about long drives i will be doing around 50'000 km a Year (31k miles). Trips range from 300 - 600 km a Day (186 - 372 miles). Most of these will be Autobahn/Highways. In Switzerland as we don't drive that fast you can normaly travel around 100km an hour (depending on traffic of course). So on cerntain Days i will be driving for 3-6 hours

F90 LCI
On the Post ''Presenting the 2021 BMW M5 (F90) LCI FACELIFT'' it was mentioned that the LCI would get new Damper settings. So will it be harder or more comfortable? Or even both depending on the setting?

Other than the question for Competition or not. I would be intrested in

• Harman Kardon vs Bowers & Wilkins
• Carbon Breaks vs Regulars
• I like the Silverstone leather, but im not so sure if maybe they will change color to fast with longer use.

Thanks in advance

For context, my wife and I bought an X7 4.0i and M5Comp within a month of each other. And although the M5C is clearly smaller and much sportier, we still take it on most long trips. Its more fun to drive and as my wife will say, much more comfortable of a ride than my old 17 X5M. I love the M5C in every way and the only mod was lowering the suspension using the F90 H&R lowering springs. She has the Harmon Kardon and I have B&W - B&W has only marginally better sound but looks way better than the HK. CCB are a must - more responsive and no brake dust. Only comment most will mention is that replacing CCB will be expensive but they are suppose to last 100k miles. Both our cars have Aragon leather. I do suggest the extended leather package for the M5C, otherwise, you'll get that fake leather dash (like I unfortunately have) which shouldn't be available on a car like this.

My 2 cents!! Happy car shopping!!

[Nikolov]

I have an M5C and I never thought I'd say this, but I find the ride too harsh on not so good roads (like the one leading up to my house). My 991.2 Turbo S handles road imperfections much better and overall has slightly better ride comfort.

That being said, I just had a ~500km trip with the entire family (2 kids in the back), which took almost 5 hours and it was fine. I definitely prefer taking the M5C opposed to my wife's A6 Avant, which has air suspension and rides like a boat. The M5C's suspension is really stiff, but if you're driving on good roads, it will be comfortable.

[Neptune7]

Originally Posted by Sencu

Hello everyone.
First Post here on the Forum, hope the General part is the right spot for this kinda questions. Sorry in advance for my bad English.

What i need
Im in the market for a new Car and i would like to get some feedback from you guys wich own one of these.
So up for debate is is F90 comp or normal version.
I dont like SUV's and i gotta need 4 Doors and it has to be an M. The F90 would fit perfectly i sometimes have to take some coworkers with me (although rare).

I have read and heard on many Reviews that the noncomp is a lot more comfortable to drive. I dont know whether the Competition is too stiff on longer Trips or not. So far i have never minded the M2 Comps ride, the roads in Switzerland are pretty good so maybe thats why.
But knowing me i realy want the Comp to be honest
I haven't test droven one but im planing to do it soon. But i propably cant test one for an extendet time to realy see wich one i want for longer trips. You normlay only get cars for around 1ish hours.

Usage of the Car
Im mainly concernde about long drives i will be doing around 50'000 km a Year (31k miles). Trips range from 300 - 600 km a Day (186 - 372 miles). Most of these will be Autobahn/Highways. In Switzerland as we don't drive that fast you can normaly travel around 100km an hour (depending on traffic of course). So on cerntain Days i will be driving for 3-6 hours

F90 LCI
On the Post ''Presenting the 2021 BMW M5 (F90) LCI FACELIFT'' it was mentioned that the LCI would get new Damper settings. So will it be harder or more comfortable? Or even both depending on the setting?

Other than the question for Competition or not. I would be intrested in

• Harman Kardon vs Bowers & Wilkins
• Carbon Breaks vs Regulars
• I like the Silverstone leather, but im not so sure if maybe they will change color to fast with longer use.

Thanks in advance

I know you said the car had to be an M, but did you consider an Alpina B5? Seems like it would help with your scenario without sacrificing performance.

[Sencu]

Originally Posted by MysticBlue

The difference between the comp and non-comp is pretty subtle. Passengers would never know the difference unless they rode in each of them back-to-back, and even then they might not be able to tell the difference. Sounds like you need to get the comp, otherwise you will always wonder if you should have, and always regret that you didn't.

Thats the thing that makes it so hard for me to decide, the first BMW i had was a M235i wich i had for 4 years. After that i switched to the M2 Comp. Honestly the difference between those two cars was so big (at least for me feelings wise) that i kinda regreted the last 4 years and asked myself why didnt i go for an m3/m4 considering the gap between the M235i and the M2 comp. For now my mind is set to a M5 comp, i realy need to testdrive both versions. Thanks for the input.

[Sencu]

Originally Posted by GhostOne_322

For context, my wife and I bought an X7 4.0i and M5Comp within a month of each other. And although the M5C is clearly smaller and much sportier, we still take it on most long trips. Its more fun to drive and as my wife will say, much more comfortable of a ride than my old 17 X5M. I love the M5C in every way and the only mod was lowering the suspension using the F90 H&R lowering springs. She has the Harmon Kardon and I have B&W - B&W has only marginally better sound but looks way better than the HK. CCB are a must - more responsive and no brake dust. Only comment most will mention is that replacing CCB will be expensive but they are suppose to last 100k miles. Both our cars have Aragon leather. I do suggest the extended leather package for the M5C, otherwise, you'll get that fake leather dash (like I unfortunately have) which shouldn't be available on a car like this.

My 2 cents!! Happy car shopping!!

For a bit more context, as of right now i have a m2 comp on leas wich i rarely drive mainly to lots of work. So i only get to drive it on weekends. From the Company i have a Volov XC60 wich i dont like... realy dont like. but it cost me other than parkingspace and taxes nothing, everythin is free and payed from the company. If i bring my own car i do get a lot of compesation.

So i calculated that i woud preatty much get even if i only have an M5. But of course it hase to fill both parts. Doing business and entertaining me on weekends.... or entertain me at work as well sometimes

The plan is to have it nearly 4 years. giving it back befor 4 years warrantie runs out. Doing 50k km a year id go over the 100k miles the CCB should last. Thats why im probably going with the normal brakes. If i had to replace the CCB id Probably be able to change the normal brakes 3 times or so. And on top they cost a lot on top while ordering. hmmm i wont ever go on Tracks with it and mainly on highways, i think the normal brakes will do for me.

For the Leather, so if i get the normal one i only have the fake/sensatec leather on the Dashboard and the glovescompartment will be plasic? and with the extendet everything is leather?

Thanks a lot for the insight

[Nikolov]

Definitely go for full leather, the plastic looks cheap.

[Sencu]

Originally Posted by Nikolov

Definitely go for full leather, the plastic looks cheap.

I know the M2 is full of that plasic sadly no option to do away with it

[gblansten]

All that power might be wasted in your wonderful country of Switzerland. I thought that is was pretty risky to speed there and the sheer power of the vehicle will be a speeding ticket risk.

[Sencu]

Originally Posted by gblansten

All that power might be wasted in your wonderful country of Switzerland. I thought that is was pretty risky to speed there and the sheer power of the vehicle will be a speeding ticket risk.

It defenitely is. Already once had my license suspendet for 1 Month 31km/h over the speed limite. But Cars are one thing i realy want and im fine with spending money for it. And Germany with its free Autobahns is only 30 mins away

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by Sencu

It defenitely is. Already once had my license suspendet for 1 Month 31km/h over the speed limite. But Cars are one thing i realy want and im fine with spending money for it. And Germany with its free Autobahns is only 30 mins away

Fair enough. I love my 2020 M5 non-comp. I think it is a fantastic long trip car. The seats are incredibly comfortable even with a firmer suspension than the regular 5-series.

The massage function is great to avoid fatigue.

I wouldn't hesitate to get the Bowers and Wilkins upgraded stereo. It is phenomenal.

Love your country. I was supposed to be there at the end of the month but will have to shoot for next year.

[avi8tir]

Isn't the 2021 LCI supposed to have a revised suspension to soften up the ride a bit? Should make it a better daily.

[Stealth7]

I would not use a M5C or a M5 as a mega commuter car. My commute to work is 8 miles each way along Pacific Coast Hwy. in Southern California. The Volvo X C 90 that you have should be perfect for your usage. That kind of repeated driving would put too much wear and tear and blasting on a special car. What exactly is it that you do not like about the Volvo? (I do not have one so that is not it). Just curious, because that particular car has won numerous awards and it is apparently a free car for you.

[Salespunk]

I test drove both the Comp and standard car. Ended up with the standard because the power difference was not noticeable and the standard was a little more comfortable when I wanted it to be. The upgrades to the Comp are nice, but being realistic I would never notice them on the street.

[GhostOne_322]

Originally Posted by Sencu

For a bit more context, as of right now i have a m2 comp on leas wich i rarely drive mainly to lots of work. So i only get to drive it on weekends. From the Company i have a Volov XC90 wich i dont like... realy dont like. but it cost me other than parkingspace and taxes nothing, everythin is free and payed from the company. If i bring my own car i do get a lot of compesation.

So i calculated that i woud preatty much get even if i only have an M5. But of course it hase to fill both parts. Doing business and entertaining me on weekends.... or entertain me at work as well sometimes

The plan is to have it nearly 4 years. giving it back befor 4 years warrantie runs out. Doing 50k km a year id go over the 100k miles the CCB should last. Thats why im probably going with the normal brakes. If i had to replace the CCB id Probably be able to change the normal brakes 3 times or so. And on top they cost a lot on top while ordering. hmmm i wont ever go on Tracks with it and mainly on highways, i think the normal brakes will do for me.

For the Leather, so if i get the normal one i only have the fake/sensatec leather on the Dashboard and the glovescompartment will be plasic? and with the extendet everything is leather?

Thanks a lot for the insight

Sounds like the M brakes are a better option for you. And yes, without the extended leather ($3,500 in the US but I think it may be a lot more in Switzerland) you get Sensatech everywhere but the seats. I notice it more than I would like to admit. We got the leather dash as an option on my wife's X7 and its just the way to go (assuming its not the $10k I think it costs in Switzerland)...

[M3PGH]

I drive 12 k miles a year in my M5C and I have no problem with the suspension
Also your roads are much better than ours
My brother lived in Zurich for several years in the 80's and I visited him several times and I remember your roads were very well maintained and also very clean
The M5 seats in general are among the best seats in the industry , so I don't think you will have any regrets

[dappercivility]

Originally Posted by Sencu

Hello everyone.
First Post here on the Forum, hope the General part is the right spot for this kinda questions. Sorry in advance for my bad English.

What i need
Im in the market for a new Car and i would like to get some feedback from you guys wich own one of these.
So up for debate is is F90 comp or normal version.
I dont like SUV's and i gotta need 4 Doors and it has to be an M. The F90 would fit perfectly i sometimes have to take some coworkers with me (although rare).

I have read and heard on many Reviews that the noncomp is a lot more comfortable to drive. I dont know whether the Competition is too stiff on longer Trips or not. So far i have never minded the M2 Comps ride, the roads in Switzerland are pretty good so maybe thats why.
But knowing me i realy want the Comp to be honest
I haven't test droven one but im planing to do it soon. But i propably cant test one for an extendet time to realy see wich one i want for longer trips. You normlay only get cars for around 1ish hours.

Usage of the Car
Im mainly concernde about long drives i will be doing around 50'000 km a Year (31k miles). Trips range from 300 - 600 km a Day (186 - 372 miles). Most of these will be Autobahn/Highways. In Switzerland as we don't drive that fast you can normaly travel around 100km an hour (depending on traffic of course). So on cerntain Days i will be driving for 3-6 hours

F90 LCI
On the Post ''Presenting the 2021 BMW M5 (F90) LCI FACELIFT'' it was mentioned that the LCI would get new Damper settings. So will it be harder or more comfortable? Or even both depending on the setting?

Other than the question for Competition or not. I would be intrested in

• Harman Kardon vs Bowers & Wilkins
• Carbon Breaks vs Regulars
• I like the Silverstone leather, but im not so sure if maybe they will change color to fast with longer use.

Thanks in advance

I have the comp and compared to a non M G30 5 series, a F90 is quite abit less comfy. I have only driven a F90 non comp briefly so I can't really compare. I do however have taken the F90 Comp for longer drives in Malaysia, I live in Singapore btw. So far so good on comfort I would say.

[northtorque]

I went with the standard F90 - very little difference between the standard and comp on decent roads to be honest in my test drive comparisons. I now have 16k on my 2019 and am very happy with my choice, especially for distance driving.

The front camber setting on the comp gave a tiny bit more response but the downside is the tendency for the car to track any road imperfections more - for a long distance road cruiser that would be a strike against the comp. The main thing that made up my mind against a comp though was the exhaust note seemed to have more deep drone at highway speed.

[Sencu]

Originally Posted by Stealth7

I would not use a M5C or a M5 as a mega commuter car. My commute to work is 8 miles each way along Pacific Coast Hwy. in Southern California. The Volvo X C 90 that you have should be perfect for your usage. That kind of repeated driving would put too much wear and tear and blasting on a special car. What exactly is it that you do not like about the Volvo? (I do not have one so that is not it). Just curious, because that particular car has won numerous awards and it is apparently a free car for you.

I just noticed that i had a mistake its actually an xc60 not a 90. The one i got is bar bones equipped. No electrical seats, no applecarplay, and in general im not so fond of everything in one screen.
And maybe because i just feel at home in BMW's in general.
Although the volvo is nearly free for me im still paying a lot for the m2 (insurance, taxes, parkingspace and the leas wich im paying) and im not driving it a lot 11k km in nearly 2 years. Thats nothing.

Bringing my Own car for work means i get compensated ( fixted amount per month + 0.60 sfr. per km i drive. So in the long run the more i drive the better it gets. As an added Bonus i get to drive a good car all day long But that means getting rid of the m2 wich i think is a realy good car. So it has to be somthing thats fun. I think the M5 would fit my needs

For the Question why i dont look for an Alpina B5 i probably won't get a lot of discount. Dont know anyone there.
As for BMW a buddy of mine works there and i get good deals.

[Sencu]

Originally Posted by GhostOne_322

Sounds like the M brakes are a better option for you. And yes, without the extended leather ($3,500 in the US but I think it may be a lot more in Switzerland) you get Sensatech everywhere but the seats. I notice it more than I would like to admit. We got the leather dash as an option on my wife's X7 and its just the way to go (assuming its not the $10k I think it costs in Switzerland)...

Full leather cost 9.5k Sfr. and the Bowers&wilkins 4.5k Sfr.
CCB Cost 10k as an option and even more to replace them. Although i realy want the full leather, handing over that much im not so sure. I think im fine as long as the top of the dashboard is sensatec. Having the glovescomapartment etc. in plastic i think im gone live with that and rather take the B&W speakers for that money.

[Sencu]

Originally Posted by M3PGH

I drive 12 k miles a year in my M5C and I have no problem with the suspension
Also your roads are much better than ours
My brother lived in Zurich for several years in the 80's and I visited him several times and I remember your roads were very well maintained and also very clean
The M5 seats in general are among the best seats in the industry , so I don't think you will have any regrets

I have watched a lot of reviews on Youtube where peaple where talking that on the Comp B roads where bad to drive (england,netherland Canada and USA). From what is saw i think the roads in Switzerland are a mostly better. But still i got a bit iritated and sceptical.