08-04-2020, 04:06 PM | #1 |
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Test drove the M5C - Didn't feel quick?
I'm shopping between the w213 e63 and the M5C. I feel these cars offer the best in everyday driving and also sportiness when needed. I've driven the e63 and up to that point, it was the fastest car I've ever been in. The dealer let me ring it out. I've never been in a car that blurs my periphery and give me tunnel vision, at least for a second or two. The sheer amount of torque and acceleration for a car this heavy with three people was staggering. It threw you back into the seat and gave me those g-force/butterflies.
I went to go test drive the M5C last week and I was actually preferring it to the e63. Smoother ride, really only need the two packages which give you everything you need from a luxury point. I had three people in the car, so fair comparison to the e63. I put it in m1, made sure everything was in sport plus and selected manual shifting. I set out and got a feel for it. Definitely not as aggressive as the e63, which is a pro and a con. I had an open stretch and went for a 2nd gear pull. There was a bit of lag even though I rolled into it and although it pressed me in the seat it was kinda gentle, not really anything sudden. I expected the car to pull harder as the revs climbed but it never really did. I shut it down around 125 ish. I tried 2nd gear, then 1 st gear, and then 3 rd gear. They all, kinda of felt just smooth and not sudden. I will say that objectively and on paper/speedometer wise yes, the car is very fast without a doubt, the length I pulled compared to traffic behind me was staggering. However, I got no excitement from the pull it was just, smooth. I got back home and took out my glc 63s amg and did some pulls. I got the immediately stomach feeling and the responsiveness. The M5C had me very confused. I started thinking maybe I left it in a weird mode or the wrong mode? In any case, I wanted to ask the forums and those who have had the car for a while if you think the M5C is more of a smooth accelerator. It gets up to speed and goes extremely fast but does not "feel" as its specs suggest or "feel" as fast when flooring it. I understand some buyers prefer this, but if that is the case, I guess I'm just not the target buyer for this car. In my opinion, I want to feel that aggressive acceleration. Thanks! Last edited by PL_BMW; 08-04-2020 at 04:21 PM.. |
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Just for the record, the M5C usually takes the prize in the super sedan drag races you see on youtube so I'd say that, on average, it is faster than the E63S. I've had lots of fast cars and would consider the M5C a VERY strong accelerator. Maybe not as raw or punchy as the E63, but still top notch.
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Maybe if you take off the engine cover it'll "feel" faster? |
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08-04-2020, 04:29 PM | #4 |
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When you said you put it in M1 mode - did you notice the back end step out or it get more lively? Asking because you Need DSC OFF; you have to instead have it in MDM mode or full nannies off for the full experience in my opinion. If the M1 setting was not programmed for that (eg the M1 on my car had full DSC still engaged until I set it up with my preferences) then even with M1 and sport plus everything selected as you mentioned then engine output will still be retarded when wheel slip differential occurs or excess yaw etc if DSC is on.
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Have not tried removing the engine cover, I'll give a try next time |
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08-04-2020, 04:44 PM | #7 |
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I had same feeling when I test drove one M5. It was fast, without noticing it I was already accelerating much over the speed limit. But that is the problem - you just don't get the same feeling from your body.
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I like your description of how strong acceleration can affect your vision. Now that my car is broken in and I've done some full pulls and some launches, it does pull my eyeballs into the back of my head in a way that can actually be momentarily disorienting. My guess is you say you put it in "M1" mode, but that doesn't necessarily mean anything. M1 and M2 are just memory settings. It could have had anything programmed into it as far as all the different performance settings. Also, new engines are pretty tight. Performance gets better as the engine loosens up. To be honest, I wasn't all that impressed with my first test drive. But after mine was broken in, the first time I did a launch... holy cow! I got that feeling you described from the g-force of my eyes and brain sloshing to the back of my head.
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I get an amazing and smooth rush in my 2020 M5. I love it. Ultimately the initial move off standing will get a bit old and the car is crazy fast. You will want to make your decision off more than just that though.
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Not sure you had the car set up right. Good luck.
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May not feel faster, but it is faster. I agree that it doesn't snap your neck, but I think that's more about the all wheel drive and the supportive seats. With AWD, the car doesn't squat back and shift weight back like a RWD car.
I'm amazed at how smoothly this thing creates speed, which is a good thing to me. It's a luxury sports sedan that pulls like a freight train. I prefer that it do it as smoothly as possible, versus behaving more like a muscle car. |
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Importantly, how many miles were on the car you drove?
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I thought I was going crazy to be honest. I searched a few forums to see if anyone else felt the same and although there's a few, I'm definitely in a very small minority.
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One trick I do when testing cars is to either test a CPO or used one as the engine is usually broken in at that point and the dealer allows me rev the car out without having to worry about break/in, new engine/trans, etc. I believe there was 10,000 miles or there about when I drove it. Yeah, that's really the feeling I'm chasing! Wish most cars would have it from a roll, that would be epic. |
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Owned a W213 E63 Edition 1 and still own a 2018 First Edition M5.... I ended up taking two test drives because nothing is achieved on the first in my opinion and thats all she wrote. Ill fathom that the exhaust note in the E63 plays a large role in "feel" of speed as well. Heck Ive had 11 AMG's so Im not just an M lover. Here is what I wroten(at the AMG forum) a long time ago and this was pre purchase of the M5.
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I left the car wash the other day and the M5 felt noticeably slower than normal. I checked that I was in Sport Plus for the transmission which is my M1 setting- it was. I got worried until I realized that the car wash guy had hit the button that lowers the sound output for the engine. I put it back to full blast sound and it felt a lot faster. Funny how that works. Maybe that was what happened in your case. If not, maybe the E63 is the car for you. That was the car I had before the M5 and they're both great. Go with what makes you happier. Don't worry about .1 second in a 0-60.
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On the day 1 when I was beating on my M5, I didn't realize how many times I actually activated the traction control because the tires were overinflated, so the car never felt consistent until air pressure was resolved. Perhaps traction was one of the issues on your test run?
That said, the AMG 63s does feel like it shoves you in the seat harder. I personally love the GLC63 you got there! Almost got that before I went the M5 route. Never drove the E63, but they are horrible on leases so it was M5 all the way compared to anything else. |
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