2016 BMW M4 GTS U.S. pricing starts at $134,200

[catchm3ifyoucann]

Originally Posted by SakhirM4

That's because there are 700 people with lots of money and no taste

never mentioned their lack of taste

[SakhirM4]

Originally Posted by catchm3ifyoucann

never mentioned their lack of taste

I personally think it looks great. My comment was based on the posts above about it being "ugly"

[catchm3ifyoucann]

Originally Posted by SakhirM4

I personally think it looks great. My comment was based on the posts above about it being "ugly"

Its an acquired taste. For me I look over looks at times because in the end of the day performance is what truly counts. There is a reason why GTR is respected

[redux]

Originally Posted by SYT_Shadow

It does maintain creature comfort in relative terms, like the GT3. One could build a faster track car than either by stripping and prepping any random piece of junk.

I have not driven the GT3. Have you driven the GTS?

No, I will never drive a GTS. If I'm paying $130,000 for a trackday toy with race seats and scaffolding, then it will be on a used Cup or GT4 class car. The stock GT3 has PASM (the GTS's 3-ways may give it the ride comfort advantage depending on tune), a sport seat, and no cage..... i.e. street car

[SYT_Shadow]

Originally Posted by redux

No, I will never drive a GTS. If I'm paying $130,000 for a trackday toy with race seats and scaffolding, then it will be on a used Cup or GT4 class car. The stock GT3 has PASM (the GTS's 3-ways may give it the ride comfort advantage depending on tune), a sport seat, and no cage..... i.e. street car

The GT3 is meant to have the 'clubsport' package which adds the cage and 6 points and you go to the track instead of being a hard parker. It is very similar to a GTS in concept. What exactly is your point?

If a GTS is 'classless' because it has a big wing, the GT3 also has one.

[The Automotive Enthusiast]

Originally Posted by redux

No, I will never drive a GTS. If I'm paying $130,000 for a trackday toy with race seats and scaffolding, then it will be on a used Cup or GT4 class car. The stock GT3 has PASM (the GTS's 3-ways may give it the ride comfort advantage depending on tune), a sport seat, and no cage..... i.e. street car

1. Good luck getting a GT3. 2. Good luck getting a GT3 anywhere near MSRP.

[The Automotive Enthusiast]

Originally Posted by djsaad1

If bmw is going to question my social status, then I would rather not have one. This should be purely first come first serve. Whoever puts the cash down first should get one, no questions asked.

Porsche does it, Ferrari does, everyone does it.

[dsad1]

Originally Posted by Mo@BMW

Porsche does it, Ferrari does, everyone does it.

I am not a "real" car guy so the cars that need a good "social status" don't really appeal to me either way.

But this is a $135K m4, not a LaFerrari

You can walk into Porsche, Bentley, Aston Martin, or a Lamborghini dealership right now and buy a $200k+ car without your social status being questioned.

[ACZakka325i]

Originally Posted by djsaad1

I am not a "real" car guy so the cars that need a good "social status" don't really appeal to me either way.

But this is a $135K m4, not a LaFerrari

You can walk into Porsche, Bentley, Aston Martin, or a Lamborghini dealership right now and buy a $200k+ car without your social status being questioned.

Correct, because $200k is not their top of range. A $135k BMW is pushing the envelope.

[redux]

Originally Posted by Mo@BMW

1. Good luck getting a GT3. 2. Good luck getting a GT3 anywhere near MSRP.

The same can be said about the GTS.

Oh, I never had a problem finding GT3 slots at MSRP (The RS is a different story). The marks up ceased two states east of California.

Originally Posted by Mo@BMW

Porsche does it, Ferrari does, everyone does it.

Porsche will sell a car to anyone that has money. Their dealer network (at least in SoCal) usually changes the first come first serve process to:
1. Dealership owners
2. Customers with a long standing relationships
3. 918 owners
4. The $100,000 market adjustment group
5. The $50,000 market adjustment group
6. The $25,000 market adjustment group
7. People pointed toward the Porsche's GTS line because the refuse to pay market adjustments on GT products.


Ferrari? Yup, they love not letting you buy stuff.

[BEMR]

Seems alot of advanced tech in this car, but I really have no idea what they were thinking in the overall color scheme, its one thing to see a car modded by BMW, but if you think about it there's probably about 50g in modification compared to a loaded f8x, with that kind of money most of us could have come up with a far better sellable look.

If I had to have the rear wing in my mod, I would have it function similar to a Convertible top, the trunk would open and the wing would disappear and reappear on demand.

The wheels although are completely wrong. Reminds me of the 78 Pontiac TransAm Anniversary addition.

[dsad1]

Originally Posted by ACZakka325i

Correct, because $200k is not their top of range. A $135k BMW is pushing the envelope.

I8, 760, b7, m6, b6, could all cost more, and your social status wouldn't be questioned.

There were about 200 B6's that came to the U.S. this year, 300 total to North America, and as long as you were able to order one before they ran out of production slots BMW didn't care who you were or what else you own.

I get that this car is even more limited, but needing to send in a bio about the other cars you own and your "community involvement" seems ridiculous for a $135k m4.

[BEMR]

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[fuddman]

Originally Posted by redux

Ferrari? Yup, they love not letting you buy stuff.

Not to take this thread in another direction, but, I don't think so.
The only thing that stands between you and a new Ferrari is the size of your bank account.

[redux]

Try buying one of their "special" edition cars without having a few other Ferraris. You can buy CPO from a dealer all day, but that's about as far as you are going to get without a market adjustment deep into the six figures. You don't have to take my word for it. Go to your local California Ferrari dealer and try too build out a run of the mill 488. Unless you're famous or have a good relationship with the dealer, $150,000 over "may" net you a build slot 18-24 months down the road.

[fuddman]

Originally Posted by redux

Try buying one of their "special" edition cars without having a few other Ferraris. You can buy CPO from a dealer all day, but that's about as far as you are going to get without a market adjustment deep into the six figures. You don't have to take my word for it. Go to your local California Ferrari dealer and try too build out a run of the mill 488. Unless you famous or have a good relationship with the dealer, $150,000 over "may" net you a build slot 18-24 months down the road.

I have been to Ferrari dealers.
And the story of a new 488 is the same story associated with any newly introduced popular car. If you want to be the first guy on the block with it, you're going to pay through the proverbial nose. The guys buying new 488s today have very big noses. Wait for the world to take a few turns, and you can have one. Provided, as I've said, you have the money.
The waiting game for "build spots" that Ferrari imposes on customers is one of several slick elements of "Ferrari economics." Which includes the fiction about necessary prior ownership.
I prefer the 458 (Spyder), myself. Less design drama.

[undermine]

again, bump!

Definitely looks sick, I ordered my 2015 M4 Azurite Black back in March knowing the GTS was coming. DME is getting to the point where it can be flash tuned and for 5K pure turbo sure does put out a lot of power. But hell of a job BMW, I am surprised people like me aren't pissed about spending 100K on an M4 and a newer bad ass M4 comes out with more power,

Bump!

Originally Posted by (H)

$134k!!! Is the entire chassis made from carbon fiber, does it pull 650hp to the wheels, does it come with full track insurance and membership at Monticello???

[The Automotive Enthusiast]

Originally Posted by redux

The same can be said about the GTS.

Oh, I never had a problem finding GT3 slots at MSRP (The RS is a different story). The marks up ceased two states east of California.

Porsche will sell a car to anyone that has money. Their dealer network (at least in SoCal) usually changes the first come first serve process to:
1. Dealership owners
2. Customers with a long standing relationships
3. 918 owners
4. The $100,000 market adjustment group
5. The $50,000 market adjustment group
6. The $25,000 market adjustment group
7. People pointed toward the Porsche's GTS line because the refuse to pay market adjustments on GT products.


Ferrari? Yup, they love not letting you buy stuff.

I was referring to the GT3 RS regarding the price.

And I am also referring to the GT3 RS or even the GT4 when I say that they won't sell just anyone with the money for one. We own a Porsche dealership, and unless you've been a loyal Porsche owner that has owned a significant amount of them, then good luck getting one.

[ShawnDeeZ]

Originally Posted by JNoSol

We expected the cost of the GTS to be slightly under $150k this whole time, so this isn't a shocker.

Getting a GT3 is easier said than done. Even if you walk into a Porsche dealer with a brief case of cash, there's still no guarantee you'll get one. Also, no one ever buys a base GT3. With the options loaded, you're looking at $160k. You haven't consider the cost of maintaining a GT3. $600 oil change vs free for a BMW. If you have a good relationship with your BMW dealer, they might be able to give you $5-10k off (if you bought 5+ cars from the same dealer before, you have a chance). This GTS should hold its value very well, as it is extremely rare. For those who missed the opportunity of the GT4, this is the next best option.

A person who buys a $160k car or better yet any car over $100k should be able to afford a $600 oil change... If they can't then they shouldn't buy the car in the first place

[MrMoo]

Originally Posted by ShawnDeeZ

A person who buys a $160k car or better yet any car over $100k should be able to afford a $600 oil change... If they can't then they shouldn't buy the car in the first place

While im sure we can all afford a $600 oil change, we would still much rather not have to fork out that money as a regular thing every year. (Multiple times if tracked)

Any ways on topic. If it makes anyone feel any better I can confidently guess Australias M4 GTS prices will be higher than the $250,000 mark. Who wants to buy one down here? Our dollars low if you do the conversion it'll work out to only be around $180,000 USD (Ballpark figures)

[bluekn8286]

There is going to be an insane markup on these so expect 150K if you want one IMO

[fuddman]

Originally Posted by bluekn8286

There is going to be an insane markup on these so expect 150K if you want one IMO

If the car is allocated exclusively to the larger dealers, then I think you're right. Smaller dealers, IMO, have an inclination to sell at or below MSRP, regardless of the car. Or at least, the "market adjustment" may be smaller.