BMW 1 Series Sedan Revealed

rainfall · 09-05-2016, 08:52 PM

I like the view. I only wish it had RWD+6 speed option.

Turkish Pickle · 09-05-2016, 09:05 PM

all i can say: meh

VERY uninspiring, wish the old people didnt hate bangle so much. i still feel the E60 looks younger than the f10...

Joe S · 09-05-2016, 09:12 PM

At least the back lights are better looking then the 2 series
Everything else sucks

Eagle1oh7 · 09-05-2016, 09:19 PM

Front wheel drive makes it a "sports sedan?"

N & M · 09-06-2016, 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by BMWFreaky

is this the real deal?

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What is the point of Mini? BMW has in my opinion drifted from its core brand ethos and stretched with 2 series hatchback and this product into areas where it should have developed the Mini brand.

M5essex · 09-06-2016, 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by DRTMGRT

Not too shabby.

Bring on the production version of the concept compact sedan to the US!!!

Yeah this looks nice. The front nose and shut lines are much better... Previous pics in this thread show a totally different boring car.. Shame their concept cars get butchered before production sign off

KSERGEI-BY · 09-06-2016, 05:22 AM

Hmm...
dont know. Must see it in person.

bavarian19 · 09-06-2016, 08:18 AM

It looks like someone slapped two roundels and kidney grills on a kia.

DJKapeesh · 09-06-2016, 08:30 AM

Oh look, a honda

Segments · 09-06-2016, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by bavarian19

It looks like someone slapped two roundels and kidney grills on a kia.

Was about to say it looks like an Optima

MightyMouseTech · 09-06-2016, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe S

At least the back lights are better looking then the 2 series
Everything else sucks

That was my same exact thought.

feuer · 09-06-2016, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Segments

Was about to say it looks like an Optima

Optima is a lot better looking car!

Segments · 09-06-2016, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by feuer

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Originally Posted by Segments

Was about to say it looks like an Optima

Optima is a lot better looking car!

Very true to be honest

Tag · 09-06-2016, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DriveHard

What's the deal with the large 2 square cut outs in the front bumper where the plate would be mounted?

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Originally Posted by Matski

That's where the number plate will be mounted.

So for those that aren't required to or don't want a front plate they'll have two fugly notches in their front bumpers?

I expect nothing less from the devolution of BMW.

SCOTT26 · 09-06-2016, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by feuer

Optima is a lot better looking car!

Optima is two classes above segment wise.

SCOTT26 · 09-06-2016, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ASAP

lmao... this company gets better day by day... 5 year outlook for bmw... be absolutely like everyone else, offer 0 product differentiation from others in the market, dont build cars based on a heritage or dynamics that made you great...

so then what again is the point of owning a bmw a few years down the road?

Its been like that for the past 10 years. Unless you are in North America?

ASAP · 09-06-2016, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SCOTT26

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Originally Posted by ASAP

lmao... this company gets better day by day... 5 year outlook for bmw... be absolutely like everyone else, offer 0 product differentiation from others in the market, dont build cars based on a heritage or dynamics that made you great...

so then what again is the point of owning a bmw a few years down the road?

Its been like that for the past 10 years. Unless you are in North America?

Yes I am in NA, where historically BMW has been positioned as a luxury car maker with driving dynamics... With the price premium over competing brands, this was what people expected. I guess with fwd based X1's, a universal architecture for most cars and fwd BMW sedans, I assume this is long gone... Seeing as how we are your biggest enthusiast market as nearly all M cars are built with this market in mind, I would mention a word or two to the big wigs before you guys become another GM or VW and completely ruin your image...

feuer · 09-06-2016, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ASAP

Yes I am in NA, where historically BMW has been positioned as a luxury car maker with driving dynamics... With the price premium over competing brands, this was what people expected. I guess with fwd based X1's, a universal architecture for most cars and fwd BMW sedans, I assume this is long gone... Seeing as how we are your biggest enthusiast market as nearly all M cars are built with this market in mind, I would mention a word or two to the big wigs before you guys become another GM or VW and completely ruin your image...

Luxury cars are separate segment where most BMW don't belong. Luxury is just a loosely used marketing terminology in USA based on price only.

ASAP · 09-06-2016, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ASAP

Yes I am in NA, where historically BMW has been positioned as a luxury car maker with driving dynamics... With the price premium over competing brands, this was what people expected. I guess with fwd based X1's, a universal architecture for most cars and fwd BMW sedans, I assume this is long gone... Seeing as how we are your biggest enthusiast market as nearly all M cars are built with this market in mind, I would mention a word or two to the big wigs before you guys become another GM or VW and completely ruin your image...

Luxury cars are separate segment where most BMW don't belong. Luxury is just a loosely used marketing terminology in USA based on price only.

well seeing as how a base accord is 22k and a fully loaded accord is 31k, what then is a base 32k 3 series and a fully loaded 3 series at 60k?

Pretty substantial price difference there... if luxurious is a loosely based marketing term, they need go regroup and rebrand immediately, my understanding is that's what Mini was for.

Audi A4's
C classes
3 series

these are entry level luxury cars... if they are to be in the same segment as midsize cars like accords and camrys, then they cannot cost upwards of 60k, that is laughable marketing at best.

feuer · 09-06-2016, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ASAP

well seeing as how a base accord is 22k and a fully loaded accord is 31k, what then is a base 32k 3 series and a fully loaded 3 series at 60k?

Pretty substantial price difference there... if luxurious is a loosely based marketing term, they need go regroup and rebrand immediately, my understanding is that's what Mini was for.

Audi A4's
C classes
3 series

these are entry level luxury cars... if they are to be in the same segment as midsize cars like accords and camrys, then they cannot cost upwards of 60k, that is laughable marketing at best.

Audi A4's
C classes
3 series
^^^^^^^
Neither is a luxury car from the list above but yes, same segment as Accord and Camry.
Again, luxury car is just a term in USA. When you can purchase these with cloth seats, no sunroof, steel wheels with hub caps and etc can not be a car that actually belongs in the luxury car segment.

ASAP · 09-06-2016, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by feuer

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Originally Posted by ASAP

well seeing as how a base accord is 22k and a fully loaded accord is 31k, what then is a base 32k 3 series and a fully loaded 3 series at 60k?

Pretty substantial price difference there... if luxurious is a loosely based marketing term, they need go regroup and rebrand immediately, my understanding is that's what Mini was for.

Audi A4's
C classes
3 series

these are entry level luxury cars... if they are to be in the same segment as midsize cars like accords and camrys, then they cannot cost upwards of 60k, that is laughable marketing at best.

Audi A4's
C classes
3 series
^^^^^^^
Neither is a luxury car from the list above but yes, same segment as Accord and Camry.
Again, luxury car is just a term in USA. When you can purchase these with cloth seats, no sunroof, steel wheels with hub caps and etc can not be a car that actually belongs in the luxury car segment.

If this is the same segment, then not sure how you can have a car that can cost double on options alone... this is why it was always marketed as a luxury car and needs to remain that way.

raysspl · 09-06-2016, 03:39 PM

Surely a matter of when we see this on USA

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