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BMW has something called innovation. They are looked up too for their products, racing etc. Tesla is a stupid tech brand that puts batteries in their cars WOW impressive they drive like shit look like shit and make 0 noise so what's the point of buying one over a M5 or e63s
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I'm not sure if more i models are the way to do it, but I'm sure the tension between regular models and the i-range will resolve in some way; hopefully the (very much just a) rumour of an all electric next gen i8 will show what BMW can do to answer the Tesla Roadster and other future electric sports cars. Pleased to see it was a win for the M5 too. |
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03-19-2018, 01:26 PM | #30 |
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M5 hands down the winner. Even the F10 M5 blew away a P100D overall. The quality, ride, handling, fit and finish as well as tech much better on the M5. Just no comparison even.
I have driven the top of the line Tesla and my takeaway was it felt very cheap next to the M5 in almost every way. Sure it might do a romp to 60 a tiny bit faster (maybe less on the F90) but the M5 just keeps pulling and can go all day long without going into limp mode. I wanted to love the Tesla. I wanted to love it so much I would buy it. For $140k for the top model which didn't even compare to a loaded M5 for 120k there was no way to justify it. I walked away saying the $140k is a $75k car at best. If it was $75k I would have ordered one. Maybe even $80k. But at $140k can't pay that much when Mercedes, BMW, Audi quality, ride, handling, tech, etc is all so much better for so much less. I sold my F10 M5 ahead of me ordering the new one shortly. I did test drive the new M5 and it is impressive as expected. |
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They have cars 100K to 200k+. Guess how many have HUD? Give you a hint. It rhymes with Hero. That is right. Zero. Not a single porsche has HUD. |
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For the most part, pointless distractions used to woo the consumer. My iPhoneX is my navigation. I’ve used my F80s navigation maybe half-a-dozen times and my car is over 3 years old.
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Me and my wife both have literally not purchased cars where we loved everything about them but they were missing a HUD (hear that porsche? You lost a Cayenne sale). To each their own. Enjoy your iPhone X and it's tiny screen Just not for me while I'm driving |
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Again I just have my opinion and you have yours. I won't buy a car without a HUD. It's a dealbreaker for me and my wife both. I have an iPhone X and a Google Pixel 2. Only time I ever use those for navigation is for Waze as a 2nd navigation tool (for traffic, police, etc). But this side conversation is off topic. So back to the original. M5 blows away the Tesla! |
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Elon Musk in panic. Model 3 build quality very poor: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.for...-or-break/amp/
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