[ss_m5]

My installer is having a hard time with the driver side full downpipe install. He said the left side had no issues it went right on. Does anyone have any tips or tricks on getting the right driver side to fit properly? He's saying the ER downpipes are not the best fit. I told him from everything I've read or heard ER downpipe don't have many fitment issues. Maybe mine just came from a bad batch. Thanks for any help on this install.

[BMWDriverX]

Originally Posted by ss_m5

My installer is having a hard time with the driver side full downpipe install. He said the left side had no issues it went right on. Does anyone have any tips or tricks on getting the right driver side to fit properly? He's saying the ER downpipes are not the best fit. I told him from everything I've read or heard ER downpipe don't have many fitment issues. Maybe mine just came from a bad batch. Thanks for any help on this install.

Gintani told me the same thing when they installed my secondaries, they eventually got it to fit loosening the bracket bolts and rotating the upper DP. then we had to push the entire exhaust system forward by maybe 1/4" so that the lowers don't leak. It's a shit show, and i brought this all up to ER and they never got back to me. Not buying their products again that's for sure.

[ss_m5]

Originally Posted by BMWDriverX

Gintani told me the same thing when they installed my secondaries, they eventually got it to fit loosening the bracket bolts and rotating the upper DP. then we had to push the entire exhaust system forward by maybe 1/4" so that the lowers don't leak. It's a shit show, and i brought this all up to ER and they never got back to me. Not buying their products again that's for sure.

Thanks, I'll pass this on to my installer. You know I don't usually cheap out on things like this but like I mentioned, everything you read here people have said fitment is pretty spot on. I would 100% spend 1500 more instead of dealing with crap like this. I'm sure they will finally get it installed but bad fitment downpipes lead to other issues like rattling and leaks. Hopefully, this thread will help others make better decisions

[M5.f90]

Be carefull my friend put a secondary downpipe from ER and the fitment wasn't perfect
It almost blow his engine
20k of dammage !

[JBA87]

Originally Posted by ilyass.rachidi

Be carefull my friend put a secondary downpipe from ER and the fitment wasn't perfect
It almost blow his engine
20k of dammage !

Originally Posted by ilyass.rachidi

Be carefull my friend put a secondary downpipe from ER and the fitment wasn't perfect
It almost blow his engine
20k of dammage !

What happened exactly ? Was it an install issue or a fitment issue ?

What damage did it do? Symptoms?

I have evolution on my car and want to watch out for any issues

[r33_RGSport]

Originally Posted by ss_m5

My installer is having a hard time with the driver side full downpipe install. He said the left side had no issues it went right on. Does anyone have any tips or tricks on getting the right driver side to fit properly? He's saying the ER downpipes are not the best fit. I told him from everything I've read or heard ER downpipe don't have many fitment issues. Maybe mine just came from a bad batch. Thanks for any help on this install.

Hmm, I personally have installed a few as other shops locally that I know.
We always managed to get installed properly.

AFAIK, you have to keep everything loose first before you can start tightening them.

It is not as easy as Keller where everything falls into place easily, but IMO they are still manage-able.

I have seen bad downpipes from other brands where nothing is lining up.

It is the same as buying an exhaust system between Akrapovic to cheaper brands. Akrapovic is very easy to install where everything will fall into place, while others, you may have to make a few adjustment before they are exactly the way it supposed to be.

[FSociety]

All the cheaper brands will have their fitment bugs it seems, so far i've heard...

One recently melted his SSR Downpipes for having an aggressive flame tune
One had fitment issues with ER (had to go back to his installer twice)
One had fitment issues with Boostlogic (gasket issues or installer issues)

Should of contacted bm3tuning or jairomvp182 for Kellers, Project Gamma or MSR

[Evolution Racewerks]

Hi,

I apologize for the issues you are having. If you are having issues with installation, please contact us at fredsu@evolutionracewerks.com or call us at 626-334-6609. We will try our best to figure out the issue and get it sorted out. If there is an issue with the part we will send replacements right away.

Fred Su

Originally Posted by ss_m5

My installer is having a hard time with the driver side full downpipe install. He said the left side had no issues it went right on. Does anyone have any tips or tricks on getting the right driver side to fit properly? He's saying the ER downpipes are not the best fit. I told him from everything I've read or heard ER downpipe don't have many fitment issues. Maybe mine just came from a bad batch. Thanks for any help on this install.

[GranitM5]

Originally Posted by FSociety

All the cheaper brands will have their fitment bugs it seems, so far i've heard...

One recently melted his SSR Downpipes for having an aggressive flame tune
One had fitment issues with ER (had to go back to his installer twice)
One had fitment issues with Boostlogic (gasket issues or installer issues)

Should of contacted bm3tuning or jairomvp182 for Kellers, Project Gamma or MSR

I should be getting SSR downpipes installed sometime next week. I also looked at ER as well as Keller but $3500 is kind of steep for just downpipes. I hear the quality is great but just too pricey for me.

[Evolution Racewerks]

I apologize that I dropped the ball and did not get back to you. I try my best to answer every e-mail that comes in. I think I may have missed reading your e-mail or forgot to respond. I get a lot of e-mails daily and at times it’s difficult to manage and remember to respond. Please e-mail me at fredsu@evolutionracewerks.com or call me at 626-334-6609 and I will sort out whatever issues you may have.

Fred Su

Originally Posted by BMWDriverX

Gintani told me the same thing when they installed my secondaries, they eventually got it to fit loosening the bracket bolts and rotating the upper DP. then we had to push the entire exhaust system forward by maybe 1/4" so that the lowers don't leak. It's a shit show, and i brought this all up to ER and they never got back to me. Not buying their products again that's for sure.

[Blue M5]

Originally Posted by Evolution Racewerks

Hi,

I apologize for the issues you are having. If you are having issues with installation, please contact us at fredsu@evolutionracewerks.com or call us at 626-334-6609. We will try our best to figure out the issue and get it sorted out. If there is an issue with the part we will send replacements right away.

Fred Su

Just pm you

[FSociety]

Originally Posted by GranitM5

I should be getting SSR downpipes installed sometime next week. I also looked at ER as well as Keller but $3500 is kind of steep for just downpipes. I hear the quality is great but just too pricey for me.

Ask jairomvp182 or bm3tuning for a hookup tell them I sent you

[ss_m5]

Originally Posted by Evolution Racewerks

I apologize that I dropped the ball and did not get back to you. I try my best to answer every e-mail that comes in. I think I may have missed reading your e-mail or forgot to respond. I get a lot of e-mails daily and at times it’s difficult to manage and remember to respond. Please e-mail me at fredsu@evolutionracewerks.com or call me at 626-334-6609 and I will sort out whatever issues you may have.

Fred Su

Thanks for jumping in. I'll have my installer get in touch with you tomorrow.

[Higgs Boson]

I have ER upper and lower DPs and so far no issues.....will update if that changes.
With the BM3 OTS Stage 2 93 octane tune it runs great!

What I really like is with no cats and the Comp catback you get a little pop at startup and at WOT it sounds amazing, but idle, cruising, part throttle accel it sounds very close to stock from the driver seat (I am sure that is not the case from the sidewalk).

[JBA87]

I'm running same setup the primaries and secondaries w m performance exhaust sound freaking amazing IMHO pops and bangs are beautiful and for daily driving not really noticeable difference, until you get on it


What times are you putting down on your 60-130 with the HCP/BM3 map ? Just curious

[ss_m5]

DP will all perform about the same. At this point I don't give a damn about how ER performs or what they sound like. This is a installation thread I'd like to hear more about how guys installation went.

[FloridaM5]

Originally Posted by ss_m5

DP will all perform about the same. At this point I don't give a damn about how ER performs or what they sound like. This is a installation thread I'd like to hear more about how guys installation went.

Uppers only here...my guy said install went just fine.

[JBA87]

My installation went fine

Call Brian at above and beyond performance in west palm beach Florida

He had no issues maybe he can give some guidance for your shop

[KellerPerformance]

Originally Posted by r33_RGSport

Hmm, I personally have installed a few as other shops locally that I know.
We always managed to get installed properly.

AFAIK, you have to keep everything loose first before you can start tightening them.

It is not as easy as Keller where everything falls into place easily, but IMO they are still manage-able.

I have seen bad downpipes from other brands where nothing is lining up.

It is the same as buying an exhaust system between Akrapovic to cheaper brands. Akrapovic is very easy to install where everything will fall into place, while others, you may have to make a few adjustment before they are exactly the way it supposed to be.

Thank you !

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by BMWDriverX

Gintani told me the same thing when they installed my secondaries, they eventually got it to fit loosening the bracket bolts and rotating the upper DP. then we had to push the entire exhaust system forward by maybe 1/4" so that the lowers don't leak. It's a shit show, and i brought this all up to ER and they never got back to me. Not buying their products again that's for sure.

I'm surprised to hear about your experience with them. We have dealt with ER for several years, their customer service is top-notch. So are their products.

[BMWDriverX]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

I'm surprised to hear about your experience with them. We have dealt with ER for several years, their customer service is top-notch. So are their products.

I was as well based on their reputation. I only installed the ER lowers to the OEM exhaust piping and aside from the fitment issues, they got over those and then we ran into the issue with the exhaust piping sliding too far over the DP's and so they were leaking because the clamp on the oem exhaust pipe is tack welded on so it has to clamp onto the flare of the DP and it was clamping on where the flare was reducing on an angle, once we pushed the exhaust out towards the back of the car a 1/4" or so the pipe and clamp sat on the flare of the DP and the leak went away. I spoke to ER about it and the last conversation we had they were going to look into the issue and get back to me but never did. It is what it is, the DP's are on my car and they work now but they were not easy to install and Gintani knows damn well what they are doing over there building twin turbo GT3's among other things, a DP install for them should have been a breeze when the parts fit correctly.

[Bmw.mozambique]

Originally Posted by r33_RGSport

Hmm, I personally have installed a few as other shops locally that I know.
We always managed to get installed properly.

AFAIK, you have to keep everything loose first before you can start tightening them.

It is not as easy as Keller where everything falls into place easily, but IMO they are still manage-able.

I have seen bad downpipes from other brands where nothing is lining up.

It is the same as buying an exhaust system between Akrapovic to cheaper brands. Akrapovic is very easy to install where everything will fall into place, while others, you may have to make a few adjustment before they are exactly the way it supposed to be.

my Akroz are not lining up nicely. could it be installer issue? they've told me they did everything to get them to line perfectly.

I thought it was a bit dubious