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      04-29-2020, 07:21 AM   #1
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What is the difference between the motor of M5 base and the competition

I'm wondering if there is any difference on the hardware on the engine of m5 base and the competition one
Anybody can explain
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I'm wondering if there is any difference on the hardware on the engine of m5 base and the competition one
Anybody can explain
Thanks
THIS

The 2019 BMW M5 competition has 617 horsepower, 17 horsepower more than the M5.

The 4.4 liter S63 twin turbo V8 has 25.9 psi of turbo boost and 5000 psi fuel injectors - we talk about why those things are such a big deal and what BMW did to cope with the new power.

The 2019 BMW M5 competition sits 7mm lower than a standard M5, has shortened front links and no rear toe link bushings whatsoever, opting for ball joints instead.

The 2019 BMW M5 competition wheels are 6.6 pounds lighter than the stock M5 wheels.

The M5 Competition ceramic brakes are 42 pounds lighter than the standard M5 brakes.

The M5 competition exhaust is a sport exhaust that is a bit meaner than the standard M5 exhaust.

The M5 competition for 2019 has cross bolted main bearings for added strength.

The M5 competition motor mounts are 55% stiffer than a stock M5 yet the interior is vibration free.

The m5 competition trunk is 19 cubic feet.

M5 competition mpg is 15 city and 21 highway - overall, the M5 competition fuel economy is 17 mpg combined which is astounding for a 4300 pound all-wheel-drive.

The m5 competition 2019 wheelbase is over 117 inches long and it is very roomy for 5 adults.

The 2019 BMW M5 competition 0-60 is tested at 2.8 seconds.

The 2019 BMW M5 competition 70-0 brake distance is 146 feet or within 4 feet of the Ferrari 812 Superfast.
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      04-29-2020, 08:42 AM   #3
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The 2019 BMW M5 competition has 617 horsepower, 17 horsepower more than the M5.

The 4.4 liter S63 twin turbo V8 has 25.9 psi of turbo boost and 5000 psi fuel injectors - we talk about why those things are such a big deal and what BMW did to cope with the new power.

The 2019 BMW M5 competition sits 7mm lower than a standard M5, has shortened front links and no rear toe link bushings whatsoever, opting for ball joints instead.

The 2019 BMW M5 competition wheels are 6.6 pounds lighter than the stock M5 wheels.

The M5 Competition ceramic brakes are 42 pounds lighter than the standard M5 brakes.

The M5 competition exhaust is a sport exhaust that is a bit meaner than the standard M5 exhaust.

The M5 competition for 2019 has cross bolted main bearings for added strength.

The M5 competition motor mounts are 55% stiffer than a stock M5 yet the interior is vibration free.

The m5 competition trunk is 19 cubic feet.

M5 competition mpg is 15 city and 21 highway - overall, the M5 competition fuel economy is 17 mpg combined which is astounding for a 4300 pound all-wheel-drive.

The m5 competition 2019 wheelbase is over 117 inches long and it is very roomy for 5 adults.

The 2019 BMW M5 competition 0-60 is tested at 2.8 seconds.

The 2019 BMW M5 competition 70-0 brake distance is 146 feet or within 4 feet of the Ferrari 812 Superfast.
Thank you much

When you saying about cross bolted main bearing ..that is only on the competition model or both engine
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When you saying about cross bolted main bearing ..that is only on the competition model or both engine
COMP Only.
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COMP Only.
Std and Comp engine's are identical,just checked the part numbers.
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Std and Comp engine's are identical,just checked the part numbers.
The X Bolts are not on the STD engines, check with BMW Germany
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The X Bolts are not on the STD engines, check with BMW Germany
I have access to BMW's ETK Part's catalogue and the short engine and all crank/bearings components are all identical part numbers for STD and Comp.
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I have access to BMW's ETK Part's catalogue and the short engine and all crank/bearings components are all identical part numbers for STD and Comp.
Someone has told me lies then, I will get in touch with my acquaintance in the Factory to confirm what I said, however it could be the bolts have been upgraded across the engines. I was told about these cross bolts early last year.
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Ceramic brakes are optional on both/standard on neither. The power difference is purely software/DME.
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The 2019 BMW M5 competition has 617 horsepower, 17 horsepower more than the M5.

The 4.4 liter S63 twin turbo V8 has 25.9 psi of turbo boost and 5000 psi fuel injectors - we talk about why those things are such a big deal and what BMW did to cope with the new power.

The 2019 BMW M5 competition sits 7mm lower than a standard M5, has shortened front links and no rear toe link bushings whatsoever, opting for ball joints instead.

The 2019 BMW M5 competition wheels are 6.6 pounds lighter than the stock M5 wheels.

The M5 Competition ceramic brakes are 42 pounds lighter than the standard M5 brakes.

The M5 competition exhaust is a sport exhaust that is a bit meaner than the standard M5 exhaust.

The M5 competition for 2019 has cross bolted main bearings for added strength.

The M5 competition motor mounts are 55% stiffer than a stock M5 yet the interior is vibration free.

The m5 competition trunk is 19 cubic feet.

M5 competition mpg is 15 city and 21 highway - overall, the M5 competition fuel economy is 17 mpg combined which is astounding for a 4300 pound all-wheel-drive.

The m5 competition 2019 wheelbase is over 117 inches long and it is very roomy for 5 adults.

The 2019 BMW M5 competition 0-60 is tested at 2.8 seconds.

The 2019 BMW M5 competition 70-0 brake distance is 146 feet or within 4 feet of the Ferrari 812 Superfast.



m5 comp doesn't come standard with Ceramics..
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The 2019 BMW M5 competition has 617 horsepower, 17 horsepower more than the M5.

The 4.4 liter S63 twin turbo V8 has 25.9 psi of turbo boost and 5000 psi fuel injectors - we talk about why those things are such a big deal and what BMW did to cope with the new power.

The 2019 BMW M5 competition sits 7mm lower than a standard M5, has shortened front links and no rear toe link bushings whatsoever, opting for ball joints instead.

The 2019 BMW M5 competition wheels are 6.6 pounds lighter than the stock M5 wheels.

The M5 Competition ceramic brakes are 42 pounds lighter than the standard M5 brakes.

The M5 competition exhaust is a sport exhaust that is a bit meaner than the standard M5 exhaust.

The M5 competition for 2019 has cross bolted main bearings for added strength.

The M5 competition motor mounts are 55% stiffer than a stock M5 yet the interior is vibration free.

The m5 competition trunk is 19 cubic feet.

M5 competition mpg is 15 city and 21 highway - overall, the M5 competition fuel economy is 17 mpg combined which is astounding for a 4300 pound all-wheel-drive.

The m5 competition 2019 wheelbase is over 117 inches long and it is very roomy for 5 adults.

The 2019 BMW M5 competition 0-60 is tested at 2.8 seconds.

The 2019 BMW M5 competition 70-0 brake distance is 146 feet or within 4 feet of the Ferrari 812 Superfast.
I think the base M5 did the 2.8 in 60mph, not the competition which was 3.0. Not sure why tho. (source Car and Driver)
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m5 comp doesn't come standard with Ceramics..
No one said it did. As you say optional.
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Stock F90 M5 doesn't do 0 to 60mph in 2,8s ... But in 3,4 seconds.
The M5 Competition maybe makes it in 3,3 or 3,2s, but never under 3s.
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Stock F90 M5 doesn't do 0 to 60mph in 2,8s ... But in 3,4 seconds.
The M5 Competition maybe makes it in 3,3 or 3,2s, but never under 3s.
Take a look on YouTube. I can't be arsed linking.

https://f90.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1466298
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"In 2.8 seconds you’re at 60 mph"

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...5-test-review/
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No one said it did. As you say optional.

"The M5 Competition ceramic brakes are 42 pounds lighter than the standard M5 brakes." - This seems to imply the ceramic brakes are related to having a comp model, given the point is to compare comp vs non comp. Doesn't belong in the discussion of comp vs non comp.
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Take a look on YouTube. I can't be arsed linking.

https://f90.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1466298
I really doubt the M5 can get under 3s...

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Take a look on YouTube. I can't be arsed linking.

https://f90.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1466298
I really doubt the M5 can get under 3s...

Car and driver tested it at 2.8 but most others test it at 3.0 dead!


https://www.caranddriver.com/bmw/m5
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Car and driver tested it at 2.8 but most others test it at 3.0 dead!
If it's the case, hands down to BMW!
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Car and driver tested it at 2.8 but most others test it at 3.0 dead!
Car and Driver runs a roll out... I have the "base" model and Im proud of it even if, stock , its an above 3 second plus romp


https://www.caranddriver.com/feature...hange-rollout/
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Car and driver tested it at 2.8 but most others test it at 3.0 dead!
If it's the case, hands down to BMW!
This is from car and driver


https://www.caranddriver.com/bmw/m5
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Car and Driver runs a roll out... I have the "base" model and Im proud of it even if, stock , its an above 3 second plus romp


https://www.caranddriver.com/feature...hange-rollout/
Everyone uses a 1 foot roll out and has for years. Did C&D just get around to this?

The C&D time is real, but supposedly was done under absolutely perfect conditions, so it's a unicorn. I believe MT ran a 3.0 flat in the base car.
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