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      03-04-2018, 03:43 PM   #23
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It's great that so many folks are chiming in about their experience with CCB. Seems to come down to personal preference, as I can easily see the merits of both. The main concern I have at this point is potential noise.
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It's great that so many folks are chiming in about their experience with CCB. Seems to come down to personal preference, as I can easily see the merits of both. The main concern I have at this point is potential noise.
With respect, the fact that they are $9000 should be the more significant concern...where you're dropping that much money and the only real way you'll notice it is if you're on the track...or that your wheels stay clean.
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Honestly to keep my wheels clean is worth 9k, as long as they're not squeling like hell every time I stop
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Honestly to keep my wheels clean is worth 9k, as long as they're not squeling like hell every time I stop
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Honestly to keep my wheels clean is worth 9k, as long as they're not squeling like hell every time I stop
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Honestly to keep my wheels clean is worth 9k, as long as they're not squeling like hell every time I stop
Buy steel brakes and replace the OEM pads with Ceramic Pads .... clean wheels for about $8.5k less; if you track the car that’s another story.
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Had them in my F10 M5. Looked great - no brake dust.

But scary when wet.

I was really high on them before but would not get them again.

As someone else said, $9000 buys a lot of wheel cleaning.
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      03-05-2018, 01:44 AM   #29
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Honestly to keep my wheels clean is worth 9k, as long as they're not squeling like hell every time I stop
Demon, I'm with you. Clean wheels alone is worth it. Also, I like the gold color of the CCB calipers. Mine squeal until I hit the brakes hard once, then they are fine. Having had both, in my opinion, the CCB's bite harder and stop faster. Some people say they don't but they are larger than the steel brakes so it seems logical to me. I think if you don't get them, you will second guess yourself and wonder if you should have gotten them. Sounds like you want them, don't let people talk you out of it.
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      03-05-2018, 08:42 AM   #30
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Buy steel brakes and replace the OEM pads with Ceramic Pads .... clean wheels for about $8.5k less; if you track the car that’s another story.
But then your ceramic pads will eat through your steel rotors quicker than your OEM pads causing you to spend money replacing your steel rotors...
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Would like to get a discussion going regarding the optional carbon ceramic brakes versus the steel brakes. Besides initial cost and eventual replacement cost, are there any other down sides?

What is everyone going with? Anyone experienced them on the F10 and have a strong opinion to share, positive or negative?
In my opinion it's a simple decision.
If you tracking your car often than get it.
If not there is no point.
And as I had said before, I had both steels on F10 M5 and Carbon Ceramics on the F12 M6. The regular steels are more than enough
For street use and here and there aggressive driving.
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Unless you track your car I can’t really justify 9k. I have steel on my M4 and they stop great. However, I do think having them will add a cool factor bc most people won’t get them
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But then your ceramic pads will eat through your steel rotors quicker than your OEM pads causing you to spend money replacing your steel rotors...
I’ve had Ceramic pads on both my 13’ and 15’ M5’s with steel rotors and I’ve never had to replace a rotor. IMO, unless you’re going to track the car spending $9K on CCB is not worth it. To add insult to injury they’ve had a history of squeeling (at least on the F10 M5).
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If you go to www.corvetteforum.com and search ceramic brakes in the Zo6 forum, you’ll find a lot of posts from the track guys that remove the ceramic brakes and replace with steel vented brakes. Street guys generally keep them. Cost to constantly replace them with track usage was not worth it for the track guys. They can get similar performance with properly designed steels.
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      03-06-2018, 01:45 PM   #35
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Plenty of folks putting CCB for sale / trade on the F10 M5 classifieds as well.
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Why is this such a big topic?

If you're daily driving the car and never going to track, you don't need it and shouldn't get it unless you want to just show off you spent extra 9K.

If you're tracking, it's great.

Not rocket science.
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Why is this such a big topic?

If you're daily driving the car and never going to track, you don't need it and shouldn't get it unless you want to just show off you spent extra 9K.

If you're tracking, it's great.

Not rocket science.
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CCB cost so much to replace so I'm not sure those who kept saying you only select it if you track the car. In fact, unless you plan to spend a lot on replacing brakes, you will better off with steel brakes for track.

Didn't someone in another thread linked what Porsche GT division head said about ceramics? Ceramic's wear rate is about the same as steel under track use, so he suggest do not pick that option if you plan to track your car. If you insist on PCCB, Porsche offer a steel rotor and brake pad set up option for track days.

On top of that, I have been to M school several times and the instructors don't feel CCBs are better on track, the brake points is not later compare to steel, they don't think it's worth the premium.

But I have them on my F10 M5 though, mainly for looks, and luckily mine doesn't squeal.
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Wow, I'm getting a lot of great insight here that I had no idea about. Now I'm starting to doubt my decision to order CCB. My build slot is coming up first week of April, so I'll have to decide soon. Seems like steel may be the more intelligent decision, but I'm still stuck on avoiding brake dust.

BTW, anyone see the concept M8 Gran coupe? Sweet Jesus....
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Wow, I'm getting a lot of great insight here that I had no idea about. Now I'm starting to doubt my decision to order CCB. My build slot is coming up first week of April, so I'll have to decide soon. Seems like steel may be the more intelligent decision, but I'm still stuck on avoiding brake dust.

BTW, anyone see the concept M8 Gran coupe? Sweet Jesus....
If it were up to me, I still pick CCBs. It's not worth it from braking performance stand point, but it's worth it for me in terms of looks and brake dust. And plus for street use it will pretty much last forever.
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You are spending a 100k + on a car. If you want the CCBs get em. If you don’t - don’t. I’m happy with them and would do it again. Others don’t feel the same. Are they worth 9k - probably not - but the amount I paid for full leather nutmeg, piano black trim and azurite black paint wasn’t either...
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I loved the CCBs on my M3. If I wasn't spending 5k on an individual color and money for all the M performance carbon bits and side skirts. I'd get the CCBs. Also one of the downsides of the CCBS was you get 3-4 track days out of them max. Then you have to spend 13k for new rotors and pads. Steels are much cheaper to replace if plan to take it to some track days.
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I loved the CCBs on my M3. If I wasn't spending 5k on an individual color and money for all the M performance carbon bits and side skirts. I'd get the CCBs. Also one of the downsides of the CCBS was you get 3-4 track days out of them max. Then you have to spend 13k for new rotors and pads. Steels are much cheaper to replace if plan to take it to some track days.
Most track guys agree with you.
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$9k with primary benefit being no brake dust


If you track, you want steel anyways. trust me.
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