[georgere]

Did anyone expect different evaluation from these reviews? Not bashing the new M5 but these reviews are always praising whatever they are given to try. Advertisement and marketing...

[Madvillain]

Originally Posted by Red Bread

Every way? Didn't sound half as good. Didn't rip to redline. Didn't have the engineering coolness of ten individual throttle bodies (or even one for that matter.). Didn't have a dry sump.

Didn't look like Dame Edna. Didn't have the hardest wheels evah to clean. Didn't have nearly as chintzy of an interior. Didn't have a torque black hole under 4k.

See, plenty of places it was lacking.

the overall build quality of the e60 imo is not so good. the design inside and out was lets face it aweful. it was only overlooked because of the sound it made. and even then if you still had to do some kind of sound modification since it was too quiet stock. lacked alot of toque compared to f10, used insane amounts of fuel, had a horrrribly slow transmission(unless u got one fo the few manuals) and to top it all off it was horribly unreliable. so ya id say the f10 is better in every way except maybe sound.

[Red Bread]

Originally Posted by Madvillain

the overall build quality of the e60 imo is not so good. the design inside and out was lets face it aweful. it was only overlooked because of the sound it made. and even then if you still had to do some kind of sound modification since it was too quiet stock. lacked alot of toque compared to f10, used insane amounts of fuel, had a horrrribly slow transmission(unless u got one fo the few manuals) and to top it all off it was horribly unreliable. so ya id say the f10 is better in every way except maybe sound.

Yeah, I did forget the two awful transmissions.

[farishat]

Tesla is crap. That's why Musk needed a space orbit stunt.

[Remonster]

Originally Posted by antzcrashing

I love that this makes tesla second fastest sedan, do they have to change all their marketing material now?

Also they should race tesla 0-500 miles, pretty sure the bmw will win

No, M5 just beat the P90D. The Tesla Model S P100D does 0-60 in under 2.3 seconds so that's still the world's quickest sedan.

[N & M]

Originally Posted by Phatcat

I have a F10 M5 and a P100D, P100D will beat the new M5 in 0-60 anytime. To get 2.8 seconds basically the M5 needs perfect condition and launch, whereas P100D you just stump the pedal without never have to worry about what RPM or gear you are at, it just goes.

What M5 excels at is high speed acceleration, that the P100D cannot match. I'm impressed with the 129mph trap speed.

The handeling, interior finish, the driving range...

I respect the Tesla but it has super talents in a few key areas but does not have the multiple usage capability of the M5. If BMW can do something in the future with thier i product to bridge the gap of electric drive, luxury and M then we have an amazing future.

[N & M]

Originally Posted by Madvillain

the overall build quality of the e60 imo is not so good. the design inside and out was lets face it aweful. it was only overlooked because of the sound it made. and even then if you still had to do some kind of sound modification since it was too quiet stock. lacked alot of toque compared to f10, used insane amounts of fuel, had a horrrribly slow transmission(unless u got one fo the few manuals) and to top it all off it was horribly unreliable. so ya id say the f10 is better in every way except maybe sound.

The E60 had an amazing balance which the F10 lost. The day to day drive was marred by the SMG transmission but on the move it was an amazing car. The engine was just a gem and was typical of the exotic NA era type of engines. Anybody that does not appreciate that is someone that has really owned one. It was incredibly unreliable though.

[goj]

Originally Posted by georgere

Did anyone expect different evaluation from these reviews? Not bashing the new M5 but these reviews are always praising whatever they are given to try. Advertisement and marketing...

Doubt this if you've read any modern bmw review..

[stylinexpat]

Some very very impressive numbers. 129 MPH for 1/4 mile is no joke. That is sick fast

[m3rxn]

Beast

[KMORGSM5]

Wonder how the drive train will hold up once you modify it.

[teaston]

Originally Posted by GNALUZU

Not to knock the new M5, because I am becoming more and more interested in it... the method used to get the 2.8 second results are not exactly the most repeatable.

Basically, doing a brake stand before launch. C&D says that after a few runs it dials back the launch RPM, but I wonder how many times until the car goes in to limp mode.

Much more repeatable than the Tesla though, you have to warm it's batteries for 5 minutes! Then drive around for a while to cool them before doing it again!

[Calvin36]

Damn that is BLISTERING fast! AWD helps with that launch! Glad you to see that there is a 2WD FR option too.

[ekbusdriver]

That is surprising!!! Can't wait to test drive this beast.

Also, a very impressive 0-60 list, but the Porsche 918 time is not the correct. C&D clocked it at 2.2 0-60 and 9.8 in the 1/4.

[BPMSport]

This is extremely exciting! This means a tuned one will edge out a P100D easily

We already have the ECUs on our development bench and can't wait to take delivery.

[Phatcat]

Originally Posted by teaston

Much more repeatable than the Tesla though, you have to warm it's batteries for 5 minutes! Then drive around for a while to cool them before doing it again!

Don't know what Tesla you have been into but that's not the case with mine.

[teaston]

Originally Posted by Phatcat

Don't know what Tesla you have been into but that's not the case with mine.

Afaik it's the case for any Tesla with ludicrous mode?!

[LeMans E90]

Originally Posted by harperium

i've recorded 3.8 to 4.2 using the M-laptimer. Unscientific, but the 340i mppsk is fast.

This has me looking forward to the M340i. Can't wait!

[Madvillain]

Originally Posted by harperium

i've recorded 3.8 to 4.2 using the M-laptimer. Unscientific, but the 340i mppsk is fast.

its quick not fast. especially if you see what kind of laptimes it can set in motortrend test it was barely faster around willow springs than an e30 325 wagon.

[Wills2]

100 mph in 6.6 seconds and 150mph in 15.9 is silly, and I love it.

[Longboarder]

Originally Posted by BPMSport

This is extremely exciting! This means a tuned one will edge out a P100D easily

We already have the ECUs on our development bench and can't wait to take delivery.

We don't know that yet.

But we do know on the coupe side of things that tuned 911 Turbos with street tires have been out-launching Porsche 918's (0-60 in 2.2 seconds) with 0-60mph near 2-flat or even in the 1.9X territory with street tires. And unlike battery cars, the 911's keep pulling hard with great vengeance and furious anger. My old 997.2 vs a P918 with a 9.7@145.X timeslip:

https://instagram.com/p/BMenUrqBrQA/

[allmotor_2000]

Originally Posted by Longboarder

We don't know that yet.

But we do know on the coupe side of things that tuned 911 Turbos with street tires have been out-launching Porsche 918's (0-60 in 2.2 seconds) with 0-60mph near 2-flat or even in the 1.9X territory with street tires. And unlike battery cars, the 911's keep pulling hard with great vengeance and furious anger. My old 997.2 vs a P918 with a 9.7@145.X timeslip:

https://instagram.com/p/BMenUrqBrQA/

These guys are talking stock to stock.. so the F90 is very impressive so far. Vs. tuned cars is another story. I am sure I will put bus-lengths on the F90... but then my car only looks stock :-)