March + Production E92 have different gauges? (Pics)

Raider · 04-17-2007, 07:25 PM

Anyone notice the difference?

Apparently the newer models oil temp gauge reads much higher, and the middle one reads 250, not 210

timn · 04-17-2007, 07:35 PM

Does anyone know if this is just for aesthetics or if the higher temp gauges also come with better sensors?

Raider · 04-17-2007, 07:37 PM

maybe it's a gimmick so people don't freak out cause it does not frequently passes the middle mark..

BMW is damn smart....

Raider · 04-17-2007, 07:54 PM

ooops didn't realize this was already discussed, can the mods delete this?

Couch · 04-17-2007, 08:31 PM

Now my car will be more rare.

Driver72 · 04-17-2007, 08:33 PM

It's okay, some people around here really enjoy repetitive posts talking about the same topic.

I like the new gauges personally.
It was just to keep people from freaking out at seeing the gauge go much passed the 1/2 way mark.

Another reason to call 335i's made after March 2007 (2007.5)

DrGP · 04-17-2007, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider

maybe it's a gimmick so people don't freak out cause it does not frequently passes the middle mark..

BMW is damn smart....

That would seem to make sense

Raider · 04-17-2007, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Driver72

It's okay, some people around here really enjoy repetitive posts talking about the same topic.

I like the new gauges personally.
It was just to keep people from freaking out at seeing the gauge go much passed the 1/2 way mark.

Another reason to call 335i's made after March 2007 (2007.5)

When was this topic discussed, i understand about the procede reviews...

here's a spoon, eat my ass

turbocoins · 04-17-2007, 08:39 PM

So I guess a new gauge is cheaper than an oil cooler. That's a great fix. I get it. Instead of a fix for the fuel pumps, they will just lower the speed limits to 10 on the interstate. That way the car will still get up to speed just fine! :mad:

John 070 · 04-17-2007, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrGP

That would seem to make sense

It does make no sense--so on the new gauge, you have no reading from 120-160, because the old gauge started at 120. The fact that it goes to 340 is of no use because people say limp-mode is at 300, and my car runs at 250 tops. Probably a supplier in China printed the gradiation wrong but they can't hold up production due to the error, so they spin it.

dmboone25 · 04-17-2007, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider

maybe it's a gimmick so people don't freak out cause it does not frequently passes the middle mark..

BMW is damn smart....

+1 This is probably exactly what happened.

Zeroday · 04-17-2007, 08:58 PM

that's hilarious. at least they have a sense of humor.

Inkidoo · 04-17-2007, 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John 070

It does make no sense--so on the new gauge, you have no reading from 120-160, because the old gauge started at 120. The fact that it goes to 340 is of no use because people say limp-mode is at 300, and my car runs at 250 tops. Probably a supplier in China printed the gradiation wrong but they can't hold up production due to the error, so they spin it.

Supplier in China! Damn Chinese people.

johnc_22 · 04-17-2007, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider

maybe it's a gimmick so people don't freak out cause it does not frequently passes the middle mark..

BMW is damn smart....

+1

ages944 · 04-17-2007, 09:15 PM

This sounds like one of those "They're not doing what I wanted, so they're stupid" kind of threads.

Socratesbmw · 04-17-2007, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ages944

This sounds like one of those "They're not doing what I wanted, so they're stupid" kind of threads.

Exactly, the conspiracy theory must be continued somehow. People just don't like to admit that the people who build the cars know more about them than they do.

Brett · 04-17-2007, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by turbocoins

So I guess a new gauge is cheaper than an oil cooler.

Randall took delivery of 2007.5 E93 335i over at bimmerfest. It is automatic with SP and DOES have the oil cooler (as well as the new gauge).

-Brett

Driver72 · 04-17-2007, 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider

When was this topic discussed, i understand about the procede reviews...

here's a spoon, eat my ass

LOL. nice you picked up on that one.

John 070 · 04-17-2007, 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Railgun

On the low side, it doesn't matter. Operating temp isn't until past that anyway so anyone who's getting on it before the needle moves...

And limp mode was 300 because of the gauge and I'm willing to bet that no one that hits 300 on the new gauge will go into limp mode.

What??? Limp mode = wherever the gauge ends? Let's bump it to 600 then, we've got synthetic motor oil, and start it at 249 according to your not caring about the low side theory. So they keep 250 in the middle once again, and each hash mark = around .0018 degrees. At least folks with bi-focals can read it and everyone still feels good seeing the needle in the middle.

Driver72 · 04-17-2007, 11:35 PM

Guys, I'd say the change in the gauge serves two purposes:

1. 335i buyers that DON'T get the sport package (and therefore no oil cooler) won't freak out by their gauge getting up close to the 300 degree mark.
Now it will be just passed 1/2 way and they won't think twice about it.

2. All Sport Package cars will now have the oil cooler so it shouldn't matter as the car shouldn't get up to the 300 degree mark and go into limp mode during hard driving anyway.

e92sam · 04-18-2007, 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Driver72

Guys, I'd say the change in the gauge serves two purposes:

1. 335i buyers that DON'T get the sport package (and therefore no oil cooler) won't freak out by their gauge getting up close to the 300 degree mark.
Now it will be just passed 1/2 way and they won't think twice about it.

2. All Sport Package cars will now have the oil cooler so it shouldn't matter as the car shouldn't get up to the 300 degree mark and go into limp mode during hard driving anyway.

Serves a couple of other purposes also:

3. Drive 335i owners crazy.

4. Gives 328i owners a nice oil temp guage to look at. I think its strange that they are also adding the extra oil cooler to the 328i with sport/step starting with March production. Guess we just get an extra oil cooler.

KEVIN88GT · 04-18-2007, 12:45 AM

1) I didn't realize that sport package cars now get the oil cooler and the non sport don't? I DON'T SEE WHAT THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE MOTOR AT ALL!

2) I wonder why bmw changed the gauges? I mean did they adress the problem? It seems from reading the boards a lot of people that are knowledgeble say these temps are TOO high..so bmw changes the faces to ease paranoyia?

I'm sure SOMEONE out there has a solid source from bmw that can elaborate

04-17-2007, 07:25 PM	#1
Raider Panties Sniffer 34 Rep 688 Posts Drives: Stealthy 335Ci Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Isengard iTrader: (0)	March + Production E92 have different gauges? (Pics) Anyone notice the difference? Apparently the newer models oil temp gauge reads much higher, and the middle one reads 250, not 210 __________________ Nash for MVP Last edited by Raider; 04-17-2007 at 07:44 PM..
	Appreciate 0 Tweet Quote

04-17-2007, 07:35 PM	#2
timn First Lieutenant 51 Rep 321 Posts Drives: E92 335i Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Palo Alto, Ca iTrader: (4)	Does anyone know if this is just for aesthetics or if the higher temp gauges also come with better sensors?
	Appreciate 0 Quote

04-17-2007, 07:37 PM	#3
Raider Panties Sniffer 34 Rep 688 Posts Drives: Stealthy 335Ci Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Isengard iTrader: (0)	maybe it's a gimmick so people don't freak out cause it does not frequently passes the middle mark.. BMW is damn smart.... __________________ Nash for MVP
	Appreciate 0 Quote

04-17-2007, 07:54 PM	#4
Raider Panties Sniffer 34 Rep 688 Posts Drives: Stealthy 335Ci Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Isengard iTrader: (0)	ooops didn't realize this was already discussed, can the mods delete this? __________________ Nash for MVP
	Appreciate 0 Quote

04-17-2007, 08:31 PM	#5
Couch Colonel 142 Rep 2,900 Posts Drives: E92 335i Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Houston iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 E92 335i [0.00]	Now my car will be more rare.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

04-17-2007, 08:33 PM	#6
Driver72 Brigadier General 330 Rep 4,484 Posts Drives: 335i - to new owners now. Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: California iTrader: (0)	It's okay, some people around here really enjoy repetitive posts talking about the same topic. I like the new gauges personally. It was just to keep people from freaking out at seeing the gauge go much passed the 1/2 way mark. Another reason to call 335i's made after March 2007 (2007.5)
	Appreciate 0 Quote

04-17-2007, 08:39 PM	#9
turbocoins Captain 18 Rep 749 Posts Drives: '08 Z06, '07 MKZ Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Warm Climate iTrader: (0)	So I guess a new gauge is cheaper than an oil cooler. That's a great fix. I get it. Instead of a fix for the fuel pumps, they will just lower the speed limits to 10 on the interstate. That way the car will still get up to speed just fine! :mad:
	Appreciate 0 Quote

04-17-2007, 08:58 PM	#12
Zeroday Colonel 46 Rep 2,350 Posts Drives: Plymouth Volare Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: your nerves iTrader: (0)	that's hilarious. at least they have a sense of humor.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

04-17-2007, 09:15 PM	#15
ages944 Captain 99 Rep 990 Posts Drives: E90 325i Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chicago 'burbs iTrader: (0)	This sounds like one of those "They're not doing what I wanted, so they're stupid" kind of threads. __________________ BMW : Sine qua non Mods: Blacklines \| Rear Seat Power Outlets \| Rear Fog Lights \| Ashtray Garage Door Opener
	Appreciate 0 Quote

04-17-2007, 11:35 PM	#20
Driver72 Brigadier General 330 Rep 4,484 Posts Drives: 335i - to new owners now. Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: California iTrader: (0)	Guys, I'd say the change in the gauge serves two purposes: 1. 335i buyers that DON'T get the sport package (and therefore no oil cooler) won't freak out by their gauge getting up close to the 300 degree mark. Now it will be just passed 1/2 way and they won't think twice about it. 2. All Sport Package cars will now have the oil cooler so it shouldn't matter as the car shouldn't get up to the 300 degree mark and go into limp mode during hard driving anyway.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

04-18-2007, 12:45 AM	#22
KEVIN88GT Captain 83 Rep 793 Posts Drives: 06 Audi A4 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: NYC iTrader: (0)	1) I didn't realize that sport package cars now get the oil cooler and the non sport don't? I DON'T SEE WHAT THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE MOTOR AT ALL! 2) I wonder why bmw changed the gauges? I mean did they adress the problem? It seems from reading the boards a lot of people that are knowledgeble say these temps are TOO high..so bmw changes the faces to ease paranoyia? I'm sure SOMEONE out there has a solid source from bmw that can elaborate
	Appreciate 0 Quote