[e92ben]

Originally Posted by avlnch

sad

Why sad? Its lighter, faster, handles better, it's still rwd with the option of awd. Doesn't get much better.. unless your sad about the missing third pedal.

[adc]

Originally Posted by desertfox73

WHAT??? Power steering? I'm out. I'm a purist, and a Luddite, so good riddance BMW!

When I drive fast I want to feel the wood bench under my ass, the leather reins in my hands, and the smell of horses.

I love all of these posters who are already "done" with BMW while literally zero of them have driven this car. Must have been hell coming to grips with cell phones vs land lines.

I like my perfumed air purifier, tonic cucumber water dispenser and hot stone butt cheek massager so much, so glad they are now available in the M5.


There is nothing in the M5 that removing 500lbs wouldn't fix, and then it wouldn't need AWD either.

[997CABOVA]

This car is gonna be a beast no doubt about it I'll definitely be looking at ordering one for sure. I love my F10 M5 the loose traction is one thing about it I don't like so with AWD I feel like this new F90 will be mind blowing from a performance standpoint. Other things I liked what I read. The exhaust note has changed for the better and has a exhaust button now to make it louder and blips on downshifts sounds aggressive another thing the F10 lacked. All the driving modes and launch control now is simple to engage and with AWD should be usable and a blast. And steering improved ok where do I sign hehe. One thing and obviously won't know what to think til final production is not feeling the wheel design. Other than that this car will be a gem no doubt about it.

[Laserdude]

Will the M5 have a new steering wheel or will it retain the wheel from the f10? You would think it would receive a new one for the new generation

[Bosozoku]

In a few years, fanbois will be saying "A real M car must have 8 speeds and M xDrive!!!"

You heard it here first.

[CntryClub007]

Originally Posted by tommytexter

Floating caliper??? Are u kidding me....regular g30/f3x with m sport brake has fix caliper for rear. F8x, a cheaper car compare to f90, both blue brake and gold ceramic have fixed. Wtf

Could be a few things...
-Caliper weight / clearance
-Brake bias

The rear's aren't stopping much of this car. The surface contact area on the rear rotor is absolutely ginormous anyways

Now, should the car just have fixed piston calipers? Because it's an M5, yes, I absolutely believe it should. The class competition does.

However, this gives people a reason to purchase the brake option package and have fixed piston calipers in the rear I'm guessing. Money in the bank for BMW M.

[tommytexter]

Originally Posted by CntryClub007

Could be a few things...
-Caliper weight / clearance
-Brake bias

The rear's aren't stopping much of this car. The surface contact area on the rear rotor is absolutely ginormous anyways

Now, should the car just have fixed piston calipers? Because it's an M5, yes, I absolutely believe it should. The class competition does.

However, this gives people a reason to purchase the brake option package and have fixed piston calipers in the rear I'm guessing. Money in the bank for BMW M.

What a damn rip off

Bmw is able to shred weight off M5 with addition of awd, but no solution for clearance of fixed caliper for rear? Bullsh1t

[pikcachu]

Originally Posted by tommytexter

Floating caliper??? Are u kidding me....regular g30/f3x with m sport brake has fix caliper for rear. F8x, a cheaper car compare to f90, both blue brake and gold ceramic have fixed. Wtf

Just crazy

[cqckdiezel]

This is going to be an absolute monster of a car. Finally awd. I can finally get a m5 in New York weather. All around perfect car finally. 0-60 in less then 3.5 haha I think on a good run you can probably do 3.0. It's gonna be beastly I'm excited

[M3 Adjuster]

700 Nm of torque !


Mommy!

Lol. Wow.

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by Bosozoku

In a few years, fanbois will be saying "A real M car must have 8 speeds and M xDrive!!!"

You heard it here first.

What's a DCT-matic fan gonna do ?! BMW has Already got them with one foot on the "M" dead pedal anyway ...

[Boss330]

Originally Posted by CntryClub007

Could be a few things...
-Caliper weight / clearance
-Brake bias

The rear's aren't stopping much of this car. The surface contact area on the rear rotor is absolutely ginormous anyways

Now, should the car just have fixed piston calipers? Because it's an M5, yes, I absolutely believe it should. The class competition does.

However, this gives people a reason to purchase the brake option package and have fixed piston calipers in the rear I'm guessing. Money in the bank for BMW M.

It's there because of the electric e-brake/parking brake. Brembo has just released a fixed caliper with electric e-brake though, so in the future it will probably become available. But as of now, it's this caliper type they have available with electric e-brake/parking brake AFAIK

Oh, and the rear brakes does do a significant part of the braking!

What brake option package are you referring to? The CCB option had the same type of calipers front and rear on the F10 M5. Have you any info about this being different for the F90? Possibly they have adopted the new style Brembo e-brake calipers on the CCBs?

[6ixSpd]

The new BMW M5 is the most exciting and emotionally enthralling high-performance sedan from this model range ever released by BMW M.

[mrmoua2u]

Beautiful and cant wait for it to come out. The idea of switching from RWD to AWD is needed for traction, esp with 600hp. Great job by BMW.

[rallybull]

Originally Posted by PhoenixWolf

4WD and RWD...Best of both worlds! I so want this car.

It would truly be the best of both worlds if in the 2WD mode it would also shed the extra weight due to the 4wd mechanics.

[BwoodBMW]

Originally Posted by rallybull

It would truly be the best of both worlds if in the 2WD mode it would also shed the extra weight due to the 4wd mechanics.

To be fair if the car did lose 200+ lbs of fat while picking up AWD that's a pretty impressive diet. May be time to plan another trip to Germany

[ekbusdriver]

Sounds like it will be very impressive!

I know it is still in camo, but the body seems to be too much 5 series, much like the 4 series and the M4. I want 3 series/M3 difference!!

[Who's on first]

Originally Posted by M6-Coupe

So no RWD with MDM or DSC ON??? Kind of weird ...

I completely agree. Seems dumb.

[ASAP]

so you can't really drive the car in RWD?

There will be a lot of Mustang M5 videos soon.

[///M Performance]

And once again BMW goes the way of the our german mainstream with Audi and Daimler... i don't understand it!

- 8speed automatic is also with a normal converter (wandler) and no DKG -> Audi makes it in the new R8, RS6, RS5, RS4 too.
- xDrive in an ///M Model -> Standard form the RS-Line
- progressive Headlights in Front -> right, Audi Design
- honeycomb structure in the Seats -> Ingolstadt, what else?

If I want to drive an audi, I would have bought one! But whats next? An ///M3 Touring?
Okay, persuaded - i want one

[CntryClub007]

Originally Posted by Boss330

It's there because of the electric e-brake/parking brake. Brembo has just released a fixed caliper with electric e-brake though, so in the future it will probably become available. But as of now, it's this caliper type they have available with electric e-brake/parking brake AFAIK

Oh, and the rear brakes does do a significant part of the braking!

What brake option package are you referring to? The CCB option had the same type of calipers front and rear on the F10 M5. Have you any info about this being different for the F90? Possibly they have adopted the new style Brembo e-brake calipers on the CCBs?

Gotcha, are you saying that electric parking brake is integrated into the non-fixed piston caliper that we've seen, or there is physically a separate parking brake caliper? Only reason I say this is because I thought my neighbors Model S with fixed piston calipers all around had an extra caliper on the rear for the parking brake, so I guess it's weird that BMW M wouldn't do similar?

I still can't get over that rear rotor / pad surface contact area, it's huge!

On the "option", that was purely me wearing my BMW Market / Operating Income hat ...but sounds like it may be technically not feasible right now.

Cool to see Brembo releasing a new caliper to the market.

[Boss330]

Originally Posted by ///M Performance

And once again BMW goes the way of the our german mainstream with Audi and Daimler... i don't understand it!

- 8speed automatic is also with a normal converter (wandler) and no DKG -> Audi makes it in the new R8, RS6, RS5, RS4 too.
- xDrive in an ///M Model -> Standard form the RS-Line
- progressive Headlights in Front -> right, Audi Design
- honeycomb structure in the Seats -> Ingolstadt, what else?

If I wanted understeer, I would have bought an Audi! But whats next? An ///M3 Touring?
Okay, persuaded - i want one

Fixed it for you...