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      10-31-2019, 08:56 AM   #23
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I believe they are in the testing phase, should be out soon
Yep. DME flashing direct through OBD is already working

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The only thing bootmod3 and protuning freaks care about are the ricey 235 / 335 / 340i and m2 and how many exhaust bangs & pop pops they can make for high schoolers. Their Instagram is filled with terrible sounding m2s, m3s and 235is going through tunnels and towns and downshifting for pop pops. It’s pretty lame.

This is coming from a 28 year old...
Hi Drew, all of that is fully adjustable on each map. Each map can be configured independently as well for fully off, defaults or fully custom settings with just a few sliders for aggression, duration, min/max rpm and speed. Not our personal cup of tea for a daily driven setup and pops and bangs are not for everyone of course but it can be fun at times for sure

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If you do not like the default value for the burble duration or sound, you can easily change it. Its free and takes seconds


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Right. What I’m saying is the ceo 10k / day m5 owner is not their target market.

Their target market is high schoolers that love the raspy, terrible sounding 6 cylinder cars that are obnoxious. Go look at their Instagram it’s 98% of their posts— revving through towns and tunnels.

Therefore they don’t have time to develop for the m5. If it was their bread and butter it would have been done months ago.
Drew, M5s (all the V8s in fact) have twin DMEs and the market is far smaller indeed. All the programming support is there already we're just incorporating OTS maps and dialing in the map configuration screen and some datalogging related stuff for the live dashboard that's all.

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Haha yeah F90 driver.

I havent jumped into the tuning on the m5 so BM3 was unfamiliar to me. I'm used to plugging in a box (ala JB4).
We've made bm3 really simple to install. In the most basic setup you download the bootmod3 OBD agent from our website. It connects your car's OBD with the laptop using an OBD-ENET cable. Then you launch the browser and go to www.bootmod3.net, sign up and register your car, pick an OTS map and flash.

V8s have two engine computers (DMEs) so it takes around 6mins to flash them while the 6 and 4 cylinder engine cars have a single DME and flash in just 3mins. After the initial flash any other map switch (say going from 93 octane to race gas or ethanol) takes 15-20secs per DME, pretty quick.

You can also flash back to your stock tune at any time. bootmod3 preserves your original software versions when tuning the car. Most other flash tools use some random version they picked to tune cars with and flash all of them with that, including going back to stock which should work but may or may not match your car's original version after. It is far harder to support tuning cars this way for us as we need to add support for each individual software version but we felt it was important especially when uninstalling for service or just choosing to go back to 'stock'.

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Anything that modifies factory parameters is recorded so the fact that a piggy (JB4) is not physically detectable (if removed) does not mean that BMW can't detect recorded data outside factory parameters (boost levels, AFR etc). Tune is obviously detectable.
No tuning is invisible these days. Something called a FASTA report is what BMW can generate and both flashes and piggybacks are detectable depending on various running parameters of each vehicle its run on. Fuel injector peak flow rates for instance will be far out of OEM specs when piggybacks are used. If warranty is of utmost concern best is not to tune or modify any hardware at all.
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Yep. DME flashing direct through OBD is already working



Hi Drew, all of that is fully adjustable on each map. Each map can be configured independently as well for fully off, defaults or fully custom settings with just a few sliders for aggression, duration, min/max rpm and speed. Not our personal cup of tea for a daily driven setup and pops and bangs are not for everyone of course but it can be fun at times for sure







Drew, M5s (all the V8s in fact) have twin DMEs and the market is far smaller indeed. All the programming support is there already we're just incorporating OTS maps and dialing in the map configuration screen and some datalogging related stuff for the live dashboard that's all.



We've made bm3 really simple to install. In the most basic setup you download the bootmod3 OBD agent from our website. It connects your car's OBD with the laptop using an OBD-ENET cable. Then you launch the browser and go to www.bootmod3.net, sign up and register your car, pick an OTS map and flash.

V8s have two engine computers (DMEs) so it takes around 6mins to flash them while the 6 and 4 cylinder engine cars have a single DME and flash in just 3mins. After the initial flash any other map switch (say going from 93 octane to race gas or ethanol) takes 15-20secs per DME, pretty quick.

You can also flash back to your stock tune at any time. bootmod3 preserves your original software versions when tuning the car. Most other flash tools use some random version they picked to tune cars with and flash all of them with that, including going back to stock which should work but may or may not match your car's original version after. It is far harder to support tuning cars this way for us as we need to add support for each individual software version but we felt it was important especially when uninstalling for service or just choosing to go back to 'stock'.



No tuning is invisible these days. Something called a FASTA report is what BMW can generate and both flashes and piggybacks are detectable depending on various running parameters of each vehicle its run on. Fuel injector peak flow rates for instance will be far out of OEM specs when piggybacks are used. If warranty is of utmost concern best is not to tune or modify any hardware at all.
I have never used BM3 but, if I have two existing tunes from HCP would I be able to upload them or add them to my list of available tunes in BM3 or am I limited to only the the ones built into the program?
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I have never used BM3 but, if I have two existing tunes from HCP would I be able to upload them or add them to my list of available tunes in BM3 or am I limited to only the the ones built into the program?
Of course
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Thank you for hopping on the thread. This is exactly why I'm waiting for BM3. I feel like you guys have the most well thought out solution compared to everyone else's offerings. My Keller DP's are ready for installation alongside the BM3 tune.. whenever it becomes available. Let me know if you need a tester in NJ.

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Yep. DME flashing direct through OBD is already working



Hi Drew, all of that is fully adjustable on each map. Each map can be configured independently as well for fully off, defaults or fully custom settings with just a few sliders for aggression, duration, min/max rpm and speed. Not our personal cup of tea for a daily driven setup and pops and bangs are not for everyone of course but it can be fun at times for sure







Drew, M5s (all the V8s in fact) have twin DMEs and the market is far smaller indeed. All the programming support is there already we're just incorporating OTS maps and dialing in the map configuration screen and some datalogging related stuff for the live dashboard that's all.



We've made bm3 really simple to install. In the most basic setup you download the bootmod3 OBD agent from our website. It connects your car's OBD with the laptop using an OBD-ENET cable. Then you launch the browser and go to www.bootmod3.net, sign up and register your car, pick an OTS map and flash.

V8s have two engine computers (DMEs) so it takes around 6mins to flash them while the 6 and 4 cylinder engine cars have a single DME and flash in just 3mins. After the initial flash any other map switch (say going from 93 octane to race gas or ethanol) takes 15-20secs per DME, pretty quick.

You can also flash back to your stock tune at any time. bootmod3 preserves your original software versions when tuning the car. Most other flash tools use some random version they picked to tune cars with and flash all of them with that, including going back to stock which should work but may or may not match your car's original version after. It is far harder to support tuning cars this way for us as we need to add support for each individual software version but we felt it was important especially when uninstalling for service or just choosing to go back to 'stock'.



No tuning is invisible these days. Something called a FASTA report is what BMW can generate and both flashes and piggybacks are detectable depending on various running parameters of each vehicle its run on. Fuel injector peak flow rates for instance will be far out of OEM specs when piggybacks are used. If warranty is of utmost concern best is not to tune or modify any hardware at all.
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Can’t wait! I need this now 😂
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Running bm3 on both my m4 and x5m. Most really don’t understand it’s not just a tune but a tying platform. I am not tech savvy and love the fact I can tune, change parameters etc etc with my laptop in a couple of mins. I am running ots maps provided from protuning and they have been great
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I have never used BM3 but, if I have two existing tunes from HCP would I be able to upload them or add them to my list of available tunes in BM3 or am I limited to only the the ones built into the program?


Can you please update us on the status ?
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I had bm3 on my F80 Comp and it's the most sophisticated aftermarket platform out there. I will definitely go again with them for the F90.
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I have been waiting to transfer my N63TU license to the F90 product for quite some time.. it’s a great benefit that you can transfer across vehicles. I messaged Dzenan a couple days ago and he indicated that it wouldn’t be long now. BM3 is a great product. I wonder if we will actually be able to dial down the factory burble.. it’s super loud with just upper DPs in place.

Anyways, waiting.. patiently.. Ha
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IancoleTX same here I dislike the factory burble
Right, I want to turn the exhaust volume up but the pops and bangs would be insufferable
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IancoleTX same here I dislike the factory burble
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Right, I want to turn the exhaust volume up but the pops and bangs would be insufferable
I don't mind the burble between gears and when I'm on the pipe. I just completely hate the big pops and bangs on deceleration. Sounds like big backfires from a 1982 Datsun B210 with a V8 in it thats running like shit.. lol
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Right, I want to turn the exhaust volume up but the pops and bangs would be insufferable
I don't mind the burble between gears and when I'm on the pipe. I just completely hate the big pops and bangs on deceleration. Sounds like big backfires from a 1982 Datsun B210 with a V8 in it thats running like shit.. lol
What??? That is the selling point of Bootmod. :P
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F90 not out yet!
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X3M has been out for what-- 14 days?

X3M Already tuned... so ****ing lame.

If it's not out by New Years I'll be spending my $ elsewhere


EDIT: rumors on instagram are that it is no longer in development for the F90 and they have moved on? Wow
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X3M Already tuned... so ****ing lame.

If it's not out by New Years I'll be spending my $ elsewhere


EDIT: rumors on instagram are that it is no longer in development for the F90 and they have moved on? Wow
X3M post was a closed-beta tease to show what the current Stage1 93 and E30 maps are gaining and such.

X3M/S58 is in final test/stages with a few shops who have access to Dyno quick Dragy/Logs as well as the F90 M5's and M8. (My car included)

Fine-tuning and diagnostics are undergoing to provide customers the best possible driving experience like or better than stock.
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