[MikeStammer]

we are saying the same thing. the difference is, i wont mod while i have a warranty because i do NOT want to assume that risk. if others do, rock on

[r33_RGSport]

Originally Posted by onfireX5

Agreed. Telemetrics has changed the game for piggy back modules and flash tunes. You can not hide either.

If we want 100% no hassle warranties, we have to keep the engine management OEM or find a tune that comes with a warranty that will actually supersede OEM and actually pay out if something fails.

Like RaceChip.
It comes with engine warranty.

Originally Posted by MikeStammer

not worth me having to pay out of pocket durng warranty period. I don't mod anything outside of some coding type stuff.

when the warranty is up, maybe, since, as you said, it's on me for costs at that point.

missing before warranty is up takes away the warranty, but after it's already lapsed not so much.

Got a customer that got warranty denied because he coded his car.

Also got a customer that got flagged because he brought the car in for tire warranty and nice enough to tell the SA on his mods.

Originally Posted by DannyA

Totally agree, I more stating with just bunging the end of a harness, surely you are asking for the later to be much less likely. They know for certain it was running a piggy, they don't even need to check the logs.

Brought car into service all decked out with RaceChip decal.

[brava09]

Originally Posted by r33_RGSport

Like RaceChip.
It comes with engine warranty.

Got a customer that got warranty denied because he coded his car.

Also got a customer that got flagged because he brought the car in for tire warranty and nice enough to tell the SA on his mods.

Brought car into service all decked out with RaceChip decal.

10,000 dollars racechip engine warranty, for an engine that costs north of 60,000 dollars to replace?

[r33_RGSport]

Originally Posted by brava09

10,000 dollars racechip engine warranty, for an engine that costs north of 60,000 dollars to replace?

Did anyone mentioned how much coverage that you want?
I don't think so. All just asking for engine warranty.

For me personally and most of old school car enthusiasts, warranty is an additional perk.
If you are the one that did the damage, pay for it. Don't try to get warranty to pay for you.
Same goes with mods, you don't want void your warranty, don't mod. Stay stock.
If you think that you won't be able to afford fixing a blown engine, then don't mod it.

And, don't speed beyond speed limit, not even 1 mph.

[GranitM5]

Originally Posted by r33_RGSport

Did anyone mentioned how much coverage that you want?
I don't think so. All just asking for engine warranty.

For me personally and most of old school car enthusiasts, warranty is an additional perk.
If you are the one that did the damage, pay for it. Don't try to get warranty to pay for you.
Same goes with mods, you don't want void your warranty, don't mod. Stay stock.
If you think that you won't be able to afford fixing a blown engine, then don't mod it.

And, don't speed beyond speed limit, not even 1 mph.

I think if you take good care of the car, you should be fine. If something is meant to fail, it will fail. Deff pay to play scenario. I myself don't beat the car up. 90% of the time I am cruising with passengers and a trunk full. When I do push it, I make sure everything is warmed up and the outside temp is cool enough for the turbos to handle.

[Knifeedge2k1]

Originally Posted by r33_RGSport

Did anyone mentioned how much coverage that you want?
I don't think so. All just asking for engine warranty.

For me personally and most of old school car enthusiasts, warranty is an additional perk.
If you are the one that did the damage, pay for it. Don't try to get warranty to pay for you.
Same goes with mods, you don't want void your warranty, don't mod. Stay stock.
If you think that you won't be able to afford fixing a blown engine, then don't mod it.

And, don't speed beyond speed limit, not even 1 mph.

It's less about sitting away from your own responsibility than fear that they deny a genuine mm by using your mods as justification. If you installed a jb4 and only used map0 they would conceivably still deny any warranty claim even though your mod obviously did nothing to hurt the engine.

The manufacturer will always try to protect themselves first and unless it is something extremely unrelated like your air conditioning pump failing, conceivable ANYTHING in the driveline will be voided because you "chipped" your car.

[Ck00]

Originally Posted by r33_RGSport

Did anyone mentioned how much coverage that you want?
I don't think so. All just asking for engine warranty.

For me personally and most of old school car enthusiasts, warranty is an additional perk.
If you are the one that did the damage, pay for it. Don't try to get warranty to pay for you.
Same goes with mods, you don't want void your warranty, don't mod. Stay stock.
If you think that you won't be able to afford fixing a blown engine, then don't mod it.

And, don't speed beyond speed limit, not even 1 mph.

Well said.

[A Need For Speed]

Originally Posted by Knifeedge2k1

It's less about sitting away from your own responsibility than fear that they deny a genuine mm by using your mods as justification. If you installed a jb4 and only used map0 they would conceivably still deny any warranty claim even though your mod obviously did nothing to hurt the engine.

The manufacturer will always try to protect themselves first and unless it is something extremely unrelated like your air conditioning pump failing, conceivable ANYTHING in the driveline will be voided because you "chipped" your car.

Unless you are a dumbass and leave your JB4 or RC on the car when you take it in for routine service, it is unlikely you will get flagged for a piggy. Put on a ECU tune and you will. Its not that complicated, ladies.

[Steeve19M5CP]

Just for reference you can now buy a used F90 M5 engine for $15k +plus maybe $5k labor =$20k ....so the Racechip insurance isnt that bad......also the Racechip is a conservative power increase what are the chances of the engine blowing up......F10 M5 engines were having issues when pushing north of 700whp mostly.....

Has anyone read the legal warranty claims from Racechip covering up to $10k ? Has anyone heard of anyone needing to claim and have they paid out?

[mrkmtchll]

So I feel like this thread was overtaken about warranty issues. Looks like the RC gives you more HP/TQ.

I don't care about warranty issues. I do care about reliability, and performance.

Can I get some input, I loved BM3 with my F80 M3. Time to upgrade the F90!

[limeypride]

Originally Posted by mrkmtchll

So I feel like this thread was overtaken about warranty issues. Looks like the RC gives you more HP/TQ.

I don't care about warranty issues. I do care about reliability, and performance.

Can I get some input, I loved BM3 with my F80 M3. Time to upgrade the F90!

The RC wakes the car up. You won't regret it. As to reliability, the absence of concern speaks volumes.