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Traded in E46 - heres the E90 with CSL style wheels
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11-04-2005, 01:48 AM | #29 |
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If you guys are looking for CSL replicas, may I suggest (for those of you that are serious about performance) the very light and very strong Champion RG4 CSL replicas. They are very expensive, but are forged and super light. They also come in offsets that require no spacers to acheive that "filled wheel well" look. They are pretty wide too...
Take a look at this website: http://www.revozport.com/webpics/rg4/page_01.htm |
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11-05-2005, 01:20 AM | #31 |
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Hmmm... $3700 for a set of wheels that weigh 22 lbs?
Our 19x8.5" wheel weighs 24.75 lbs. The 19x9.5" weighs 25.25 lbs. The cost for a set of 4 wheels from **********s.com is $899. They have proven to be EXTREMELY strong. I have personally had them on my own car for almost a year now, so I can speak with confidence about our wheels. Is the 2-3 pound difference worth almost $3000? Only you can answer that question, but for me I would rather save my $3000 and apply that money towards something that might actually make a significant performance difference, like a supercharger when it is available for the E90. |
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11-05-2005, 11:01 AM | #32 | |
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11-05-2005, 08:25 PM | #34 |
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I agree with you that they are expensive. I'm not discounting your wheels in any way. In fact I think your wheels are an incredible bargain. For those looking for an awesome wheel at a super cheap price, this is it.
However, for real enthusiasts, the problem lies in the offset of your wheels. It is simply too large and thus creates a sunken-into-the-wheelwell look (especially in the back). These wheels are already at the perfect offset for a filled out look that is just perfect. There is no need to buy wheel spacers which just add further weight. Personally, I think that the look is better, it is more crisp just like the wheel on the 330i. It suits the e90 better whereas the CSL wheel fit the e46 bettter because it is more rounded. If you factor in that the largest wheel is 19x10 and weighs 4 pounds less than your your largest 19x9.5 smaller wheel (read: less rubber on the road) its a pretty significant difference. These wheels are 8 ton forged aluminum and thus are several times stronger than cast aluminum wheels. Many times cast wheels will bend if you hit a pothole, but forged wheels will retain their shape. In terms of weight, if you thing about 4 pounds of rotating mass times 4 for each wheel, it will make a noticable difference in acceleration. Not only does the extra 4 pounds of a cast wheel have to accelerate with the car, it has to accelerate in a 19 inch circle very quickly. Suspension articulation also benefits from lighter wheels because it can react faster to change in road surface. Overall, I still think it is overpriced. However when you look at the benefits it is understandable why they are more expensive. There is alot more work that goes into each one. Take a look at how expensive HRE wheels are. Why are they so expensive? It's because they are forged. If I were going to get aftermarket wheels for my car, I'd save up for wheels that are noticably better looking AND performing, not just for looks. Thus they'd have to be forged. You guys just need to think about why you are doing getting new wheels in the first place. Is it because you want to run super wide tires (like 285s on the 10 inch wheels and 265s on the front wheels) for insane roadholding and have them be light and awesome looking? Or do you just want the looks (which to me need spacers to look right)? That's up to you. |
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11-05-2005, 08:37 PM | #35 |
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Actually our 19x9.5" CSL wheels come in either a +45mm or a +22mm rear offset. The +22mm offset is designed for the E46 M3, but it can also be applied to the E90. This offset pushes the wheels out closer to the fender, and does not require the use of spacers.
We've been selling the CSL wheels for almost a year now. If there was problems with bending or damage from potholes, we certainly would have heard about it by now. However, I haven't heard anything from my customers about that. Also, I have them on my own personal car, and I've hit some serious bumps and potholes and my wheels are in 100% perfect condition. Keep in mind that it is not always the material used to manufacture the wheel that determines its strength. Often, the design of the actual wheel is very important. The spokes of the CSL wheels extend all the way to the edges of the wheels, and do not have any exposed lips. Many wheels run with 2-5" lips, which are essentially just exposed pieces of metal protected only by a low profile tire. These are the wheels, whether cast or forged, which are more likely to get bent by a pothole. The CSL wheel, whether forged or cast, is not likely to be bent because the spokes support the edge of the wheel. HRE wheels are expensive because they are custom-made to order, which makes them expensive to manufacture. For CSL wheels, our manufacturer can produce 200-300 wheels per batch, which lowers the cost per unit. With HRE wheels (which we also sell), there are hundreds of different combinations PER WHEEL when you consider the multiple finishes, offsets, sizes, and other options available. This custom level of production is what creates the high price. Indeed, everybody has a personal preference of which wheels are best for their car. I just want to make it clear that our 19" CSL wheels are extremely strong, durable, dependable, and look amazing. They are also about average or below average in weight for a 19" wheel. Last edited by Mike@ModBargains; 11-05-2005 at 08:57 PM.. |
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11-05-2005, 08:52 PM | #36 |
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Heres a nice picture of the Champion RG4:
The offset on these are as follows: 9x19 et37 and 10x19 et25 This low offset is what sets them apart from other wheels. They were designed specifically for the 3 series BMWs. |
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11-05-2005, 08:57 PM | #37 | |
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So your arguments about the offsets setting them apart from our wheels is not true. Here are the available sizes and offsets in our wheels: Bolt Pattern 5x120mm Center Bore 72.6mm Available Sizes 18x8.5" / +40mm / Silver 18x9.5" / +40mm / Silver 18x9.5" / +22mm / Silver 19x8.5" / +40mm / Silver 19x9.5" / +45mm / Silver 19x9.5" / +22mm / Silver |
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11-08-2005, 06:47 AM | #41 |
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More pics please.....
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11-08-2005, 06:27 PM | #43 |
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I think i want them! Just have to talk the wife!
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