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      01-08-2019, 05:39 PM   #23
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What is the objective data Miko?!
I am about to install today and having second thoughts because of what I am hearing!! Besides I am thinking how faster can F90 really be! It's scary to start with ?!
Ton of info in the tuning forum.
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      01-08-2019, 05:48 PM   #24
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I mentioned this on another thread.....JB4 clearly documents how much PSI increase over stock is each map and if psi boost is high on certain maps they also advise to use Race fuel only. Knowing how much psi you are running is critical for engine safety.....the JB4 app also shows realtime all the vitals including the psi boost etc....
I’ve owned/tested Dinan, JB4, RaceChip, BS3, Haltech, EfiLive,HPtuners and just bought BM3.

You have to use what meets your goals and comfort level. JB4 has your name written all over it.
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I’ve owned/tested Dinan, JB4, RaceChip, BS3, Haltech, EfiLive,HPtuners and just bought BM3.

You have to use what meets your goals and comfort level. JB4 has your name written all over it.
Id guess that over 80% of those that ask questions or question tunes on the forums never even get them. Having been a moderator since the early 2000's at the biggest Benz forum I have more than just anecdotal data to support from that end.

I applaud you because you try, test, report back and even go well beyond with data delivery.
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What is the objective data Miko?!
I am about to install today and having second thoughts because of what I am hearing!! Besides I am thinking how faster can F90 really be! It's scary to start with ?!
Read the link in the tuning section- do it or dont but dont rely on people who have no empirical data nor should you rely on people who do. Its your car and you have to have the "pay to play" mentality.

You buy an S8 APR stage II which is clearly a TD1 car with Audi and pushing the boundaries at all costs but are worried about an ECU controlled Piggy?; read the factual info from the likes of

onfireX5

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and if you are still scared stop dont do it.
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What is the objective data Miko?!
I am about to install today and having second thoughts because of what I am hearing!! Besides I am thinking how faster can F90 really be! It's scary to start with ?!
Read the link in the tuning section- do it or dont but dont rely on people who have no empirical data nor should you rely on people who do. Its your car and you have to have the "pay to play" mentality.

You buy an S8 APR stage II which is clearly a TD1 car with Audi and pushing the boundaries at all costs but are worried about an ECU controlled Piggy?; read the factual info from the likes of

onfireX5

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and if you are still scared stop dont do it.
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Take it easy on me guys LOL
I actually did install it myself
No CEL and going out to try
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Take it easy on me guys LOL
I actually did install it myself
No CEL and going out to try
You wont get one, use map 7 warm up the car and enjoy
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Take it easy on me guys LOL
I actually did install it myself
No CEL and going out to try
Wait, what?? That was quick install.
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Take it easy on me guys LOL
I actually did install it myself
No CEL and going out to try
Wait, what?? That was quick install.
15-20 minutes and I have 2 left hands, but haven't tested it just yet as S8 new buyer is picking it up in a few minutes
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15-20 minutes and I have 2 left hands, but haven't tested it just yet as S8 new buyer is picking it up in a few minutes
ok shit, you have 2 left hands, that means you installed the plugs in the wrong places.























































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There is definitely big difference in gain from stock. And you can't beat the price!!!

I have just over 2K miles on it and runs great. You can definitely feel the difference in pull and dragy proves it.
What is the objective data Miko?!
I am about to install today and having second thoughts because of what I am hearing!! Besides I am thinking how faster can F90 really be! It's scary to start with ?!
With RC you are solid 1/2 ( most off us are getting up to .6 sec ) second faster then stock from 60/130
You can't go wrong with RC for the price and reliability
Haven't measured the gains but I very clearly feel the pick up in power from stock. It's super easy to use with the app function and 2k miles on it and not one issue.
Plus I installed it with 400 miles on a brand new engine and haven't had the patience of breaking anything in gently.
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Haven't measured the gains but I very clearly feel the pick up in power from stock. It's super easy to use with the app function and 2k miles on it and not one issue.
Plus I installed it with 400 miles on a brand new engine and haven't had the patience of breaking anything in gently.
and didnt you use a lower map?

we all know there are options out there but as Onfire has stated, it truly is just a plug and play and walk away.
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and didnt you use a lower map?

we all know there are options out there but as Onfire has stated, it truly is just a plug and play and walk away.
Is the install similar to the Burger JB whereby you intercept existing cabling insert the piggyback's brains in-between the ECU and the turbo controller?
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Is the install similar to the Burger JB whereby you intercept existing cabling insert the piggyback's brains in-between the ECU and the turbo controller?
exactly

but its not hyper aggressive- you like to push the envelope more so JB is your style of clothing.
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exactly

but its not hyper aggressive- you like to push the envelope more so JB is your style of clothing.
I've found that the JB4 doesn't go with my jeans and, being European and therefore metrosexual according to my American friends, I'm fussy that way.

They're similarly priced I think, too. Does the RC use the OBD II port, too--optionally or otherwise?
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exactly

but its not hyper aggressive- you like to push the envelope more so JB is your style of clothing.
I've found that the JB4 doesn't go with my jeans and, being European and therefore metrosexual according to my American friends, I'm fussy that way.

They're similarly priced I think, too. Does the RC use the OBD II port, too--optionally or otherwise?
No OBD 2.
I've been talking to them to integrate something with OBD2 and double the price.

Oh, and claim double the HP gain and much safer just because it has OBD2 connection.
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I've found that the JB4 doesn't go with my jeans and, being European and therefore metrosexual according to my American friends, I'm fussy that way.

They're similarly priced I think, too. Does the RC use the OBD II port, too--optionally or otherwise?
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I actually did install it myself
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Wait, what?? That was quick install.
Couldn't get the App to pick the Bluetooth
Any idea how?!
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I found 2 Apps and tried both and non worked!
I have it on R manually and felt some extra pull but need more time to report
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No OBD 2.
I've been talking to them to integrate something with OBD2 and double the price.
If doing so prices them above the JB4, that won't be particularly competitive.

The JB4's use of OBD II is optional but limits you to fixed maps (like the RC). With OBD II in play and the now-standard electronic wastegate, the JB can make smarter/adaptive decisions (at least one hopes it does). And the bluetooth cellphone map switching + logging makes it extremely compelling. Very much the install and forget it...
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Take it easy on me guys LOL
I actually did install it myself
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Wait, what?? That was quick install.
Couldn't get the App to pick the Bluetooth
Any idea how?!
PM me
I found 2 Apps and tried both and non worked!
I have it on R manually and felt some extra pull but need more time to report
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No OBD 2.
I've been talking to them to integrate something with OBD2 and double the price.
If doing so prices them above the JB4, that won't be particularly competitive.

The JB4's use of OBD II is optional but limits you to fixed maps (like the RC). With OBD II in play and the now-standard electronic wastegate, the JB can make smarter/adaptive decisions (at least one hopes it does). And the bluetooth cellphone map switching + logging is excellent.
It was a joke. Forgot the emoticon. Damn you Vic55 .
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