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      09-21-2018, 08:16 AM   #23
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What is the track they are on? Is it an autocross parking log? To see a civic so high and the corvette so low must mean more turns and less long straights. The big 2wd cars with hp can't put down the power.
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      09-21-2018, 08:17 AM   #24
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This damn car is a rocket ship...

MT - World's Greatest Drag Race 8 is here:
https://www.xbimmers.com/forums/show....php?t=1537523
Odd deal is those numbers are from a prepped drag strip and not the video race at the air base. The M5 would have accelled under those real world conditions and MotorTrend has been called out to release those actual numbers.

Another interesting tid bit....MotorTrend had two ZR1’s. The one with OEM street radials went 11.2

Cup 2’s went 10.8

On a prepped dragstrip.

M5 is an OVERACHIEVER !!!!
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      09-21-2018, 08:21 AM   #25
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What is the track they are on? Is it an autocross parking log? To see a civic so high and the corvette so low must mean more turns and less long straights. The big 2wd cars with hp can't put down the power.
The track times are from Laguna Seca.

That driver car list with the 3 blanks for 1,2,3 is MotorTrends preference,,,,,,not really based on performance.
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      09-21-2018, 08:30 AM   #26
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The track times are from Laguna Seca.

That driver car list with the 3 blanks for 1,2,3 is MotorTrends preference,,,,,,not really based on performance.
Ah, the pic was of the final results. I thought it was of fastest lap times. I'm getting confused between the two articles (Motor Trend and Car and Driver).
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Randy Pobst has zero credibility with me. As a result, I give MT no time or value.
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      09-21-2018, 07:00 PM   #28
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Randy Pobst has zero credibility with me. As a result, I give MT no time or value.
Um. Why?
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Um. Why?
I know him. Bad character. Cheats women. And washed up driver. There is more, but that’s enough.
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      09-21-2018, 10:22 PM   #30
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I know him. Bad character. Cheats women. And washed up driver. There is more, but that’s enough.
You know him? How?
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      09-22-2018, 12:17 AM   #31
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Um. Why?
I know him. Bad character. Cheats women. And washed up driver. There is more, but that’s enough.
Hmmm, well, that doesn't mean he can't drive though.
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You know him? How?
Met him at the track years ago...
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      09-22-2018, 10:09 PM   #33
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Hmmm, well, that doesn't mean he can't drive though.
No longer competitive; and not ever very good at evaluating street cars imo. MT should get a new driver, someone still in the game. And with decent character.
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      09-22-2018, 11:43 PM   #34
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I know him. Bad character. Cheats women. And washed up driver. There is more, but that’s enough.
That nerd gets women, and enough to cheat on? Always figured he went around back and did it with the tailpipes. Learn something new everyday.
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      09-23-2018, 12:22 AM   #35
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Met him at the track years ago...
You met him at the track years ago. And you were able to deduce all of these character issues from that meeting? You are also stating he is a has-been. He currently has the production car record - multiple times - since he joined MT. I am always interested to hear factual info and data - but I am not hearing it here. And you stating professional race car driver level information - are you/have you ever been a professional race car driver?
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Hmmm, well, that doesn't mean he can't drive though.
No longer competitive; and not ever very good at evaluating street cars imo. MT should get a new driver, someone still in the game. And with decent character.
Obviously he no longer is at the top of his game, what I meant was he is still a better driver than the typical journalists who never drove competitively.

Of course if MT can get a better driver I am all for it.
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You met him at the track years ago. And you were able to deduce all of these character issues from that meeting?
That wasn’t our only meeting or encounter. I know him personally and very well. I would not let him near my daughter or wife. Or car. And that’s all I’m willing to post in a public forum.

Yes he drives better than many journalists, but they write better. Yes he holds some records but no he was never in the truly big leagues of racing and no he hasn’t had a good, consistent ride in years (maybe teams/sponsors know him like I do, although I’ve never said anything to them). The last few teams he was with were unimpressive, results-wise, as was he. Past his prime by several years. That is my opinion.
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Pobst drove the 720 and Performante poorly, they both could have done better time wise in this event even on the stock tires they ran with. I agree he better than average but he has definitely lost a step.
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I would love to see Bill Auberlen behind the wheel in these tests. He's remarkably fast quickly no matter the car (M2 or Z4 GTLM. even on a strange track).

He was a guest at an M track day at the BMW Perf Center. We were doing high 24s, low 25s on a damp track with M2s. He did 21.1 on his first (and only) lap, and it was smooooth! The dry track record for the instructors who run it all the time is high 20s.

I've also ridden with him in the Z4 GTLM at NOLA (not a commonly run track) and watched him at Pitt Race and Schenley Park (Pittsburgh). He is brutally fast when just giving rides.
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