My car got flagged by BMW

MWcoupe · 02-13-2019, 06:55 AM

Always tip your service adviser, even when it's a comp maintenance. You'll see how far that goes for you and your wallet.

th3hitman316 · 02-13-2019, 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pimpsy

You asked them to inspect the car so I assume a tech looked at it, saw the race chip, then brought it to the attention of the foreman or service manager.
I've actually worked in service departments as a mechanic, foreman, and service manager, and I can tell you that sometimes issues like this become political.
It sucks, but I think you have to consider the possibility that once the tech brings something like this to the foreman or service manager he has no choice but to react according to the rulebook, possibly depending how this has played out with other clients in the past.
The good news is that, most likely, you won't have an engine problem over the course of a lease where this will become an issue for you. I'll certainly cross my fingers for you.

Now you have me thinking, what happens if your car is flagged and its leased, are there any issues when turning in the vehicle.

Alberta · 02-13-2019, 08:21 AM

You play , you pay.

That's the reason why I'll never tune my cars.

r33_RGSport · 02-13-2019, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Steeve19M5CP

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quickburn7

I don't know what is covered anymore with this car. It's my second engine but was done 100% by BMW so it should still be covered with original 4/50k warranty.
From what I'm reading online anytime I have an engine issue now Bmw has to come and check it out and prove that the racechip caused the claim then i am out of pocket. If they can't Bmw has to cover it.

Tell us more about the first engine replacement? What caused it per their inspection? Was anything aftermarket installed like Racechip?

I am surprised with you, who are very good at doing research, yet couldn't do a simple search on why OP have to get engine replacement.

But no worries, here is the link to that thread.

Had to purchase a new engine oil cooler https://f90.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1548650

josec70 · 02-13-2019, 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by th3hitman316

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pimpsy

You asked them to inspect the car so I assume a tech looked at it, saw the race chip, then brought it to the attention of the foreman or service manager.
I've actually worked in service departments as a mechanic, foreman, and service manager, and I can tell you that sometimes issues like this become political.
It sucks, but I think you have to consider the possibility that once the tech brings something like this to the foreman or service manager he has no choice but to react according to the rulebook, possibly depending how this has played out with other clients in the past.
The good news is that, most likely, you won't have an engine problem over the course of a lease where this will become an issue for you. I'll certainly cross my fingers for you.

Now you have me thinking, what happens if your car is flagged and its leased, are there any issues when turning in the vehicle.

I have wondered this myself.

r33_RGSport · 02-13-2019, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by josec70

Quote:

Originally Posted by th3hitman316

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pimpsy

You asked them to inspect the car so I assume a tech looked at it, saw the race chip, then brought it to the attention of the foreman or service manager.
I've actually worked in service departments as a mechanic, foreman, and service manager, and I can tell you that sometimes issues like this become political.
It sucks, but I think you have to consider the possibility that once the tech brings something like this to the foreman or service manager he has no choice but to react according to the rulebook, possibly depending how this has played out with other clients in the past.
The good news is that, most likely, you won't have an engine problem over the course of a lease where this will become an issue for you. I'll certainly cross my fingers for you.

Now you have me thinking, what happens if your car is flagged and its leased, are there any issues when turning in the vehicle.

I have wondered this myself.

I would say that they can't resell it as CPO, most likely will be as used.

Leasing return should be no issue, since no one will be able to use a car in 3 years without any aftermarket parts.
As simple as USB thumbdrive to as complicated as hardwired Dashcam.

norbtx · 02-13-2019, 11:11 AM

That was lame of them to do. Plus seeing quickburn's garage, they have potentially lost a good customer!

josec70 · 02-13-2019, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by r33_RGSport

Quote:

Originally Posted by josec70

Quote:

Originally Posted by th3hitman316

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pimpsy

You asked them to inspect the car so I assume a tech looked at it, saw the race chip, then brought it to the attention of the foreman or service manager.
I've actually worked in service departments as a mechanic, foreman, and service manager, and I can tell you that sometimes issues like this become political.
It sucks, but I think you have to consider the possibility that once the tech brings something like this to the foreman or service manager he has no choice but to react according to the rulebook, possibly depending how this has played out with other clients in the past.
The good news is that, most likely, you won't have an engine problem over the course of a lease where this will become an issue for you. I'll certainly cross my fingers for you.

Now you have me thinking, what happens if your car is flagged and its leased, are there any issues when turning in the vehicle.

I have wondered this myself.

I would say that they can't resell it as CPO, most likely will be as used.

Leasing return should be no issue, since no one will be able to use a car in 3 years without any aftermarket parts.
As simple as USB thumbdrive to as complicated as hardwired Dashcam.

I would assume a good number of lease returns go to auction but pure speculation on my end.

soooma · 02-13-2019, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quickburn7

My car had a check engine light and a flat tire and was towed to the dealer. I couldn't remove the RaceChip and it was caught by the foreman and the car was flagged.
For those who have experience with this what does this mean?

Is CEL still there? Is it directly related to RC?
Please elaborate

made me nervous

Vic55 · 02-13-2019, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soooma

Is CEL still there? Is it directly related to RC?
Please elaborate

made me nervous

I would seriously doubt it-- probably from a modded exhaust. I have 1300 miles on mine with no issues.

Calm down

and dont start a new thread "Does Race Chip Cause CEL's"

Hahahhahaha I just cant stop with you.

soooma · 02-13-2019, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vic55

Quote:

Originally Posted by soooma

Is CEL still there? Is it directly related to RC?
Please elaborate

made me nervous

I would seriously doubt it-- probably from a modded exhaust. I have 1300 miles on mine with no issues.

Calm down

and dont start a new thread "Does Race Chip Cause CEL's"

Hahahhahaha I just cant stop with you.

LOL
HahaHaha
I put 3500 miles on mine DD

and no issues except jittery stops

soooma · 02-13-2019, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vic55

Quote:

Originally Posted by soooma

Is CEL still there? Is it directly related to RC?
Please elaborate

made me nervous

I would seriously doubt it-- probably from a modded exhaust. I have 1300 miles on mine with no issues.

Calm down

and dont start a new thread "Does Race Chip Cause CEL's"

Hahahhahaha I just cant stop with you.

LOL
HahaHaha
I put 3500 miles on mine DD

and no issues except jittery stops

shoei · 02-13-2019, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by th3hitman316

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pimpsy

You asked them to inspect the car so I assume a tech looked at it, saw the race chip, then brought it to the attention of the foreman or service manager.
I've actually worked in service departments as a mechanic, foreman, and service manager, and I can tell you that sometimes issues like this become political.
It sucks, but I think you have to consider the possibility that once the tech brings something like this to the foreman or service manager he has no choice but to react according to the rulebook, possibly depending how this has played out with other clients in the past.
The good news is that, most likely, you won't have an engine problem over the course of a lease where this will become an issue for you. I'll certainly cross my fingers for you.

Now you have me thinking, what happens if your car is flagged and its leased, are there any issues when turning in the vehicle.

Zero issues...

limeypride · 02-13-2019, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soooma

LOL
HahaHaha
I put 3500 miles on mine DD

and no issues except jittery stops

5,800 miles in 7 weeks (including pickup and drive back from CO). JB4 installed at 1,700 miles along with spacers and new tires. No issues whatsoever apart from needing two new wheels, control arm, shocks and a steering rack... all good, otherwise.

shoei · 02-13-2019, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MWcoupe

Always tip your service adviser, even when it's a comp maintenance. You'll see how far that goes for you and your wallet.

This... Have had same SA for a little over a decade... He gets gifted, cash, always remember him during the holidays...

I have fucked up many a car and even some friends cars... Some of it blatantly my fault but he's always found a way to get it done under warranty...

Greer · 02-13-2019, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MWcoupe

Always tip your service adviser, even when it's a comp maintenance. You'll see how far that goes for you and your wallet.

I have given my service advisor a Christmas gift every year since I owned my E39 M5 and it sure comes in handy with situations like these.

soooma · 02-13-2019, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vic55

Quote:

Originally Posted by soooma

Is CEL still there? Is it directly related to RC?
Please elaborate

made me nervous

I would seriously doubt it-- probably from a modded exhaust. I have 1300 miles on mine with no issues.

Calm down

and dont start a new thread "Does Race Chip Cause CEL's"

Hahahhahaha I just cant stop with you.

LOL
HahaHaha
I put 3500 miles on mine DD

and no issues except jittery stops

r33_RGSport · 02-13-2019, 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soooma

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quickburn7

My car had a check engine light and a flat tire and was towed to the dealer. I couldn't remove the RaceChip and it was caught by the foreman and the car was flagged.
For those who have experience with this what does this mean?

Is CEL still there? Is it directly related to RC?
Please elaborate

made me nervous

This is what going to cause someone comes with conclusion that RaceChip causing CEL ot blown motor.

Let OP comes back with the detail.

There are so many possibilities with CEL itself.
G30 5-series, G01 X3, G02 X4, and G12 7-series gave out CEL just because the Active Grill is malfunction.
So, it is not necessarily because of the RaceChip.

onfireX5 · 02-13-2019, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by r33_RGSport

This is what going to cause someone comes with conclusion that RaceChip causing CEL ot blown motor.

Let OP comes back with the detail.

There are so many possibilities with CEL itself.
G30 5-series, G01 X3, G02 X4, and G12 7-series gave out CEL just because the Active Grill is malfunction.
So, it is not necessarily because of the RaceChip.

Exactly right....I'd be more concerned about the engine they replaced causing a CEL with a loose electrical
connection than RC.

TrevorM3 · 02-13-2019, 09:08 PM

Don't know why most everyone in here is jumping down the dealers throat.

It's simple, BMW doesn't want you tuning the car, blowing it, and taking it in for warranty work like MANY have done (or tried to do) i don't care who is willing to admit it or not. I personally know 7-9 people who have blown f10's, all from modfications, some got away with new motors, some not so much. Thats the game unfortunately.

Bottom line is OP should've been smarter and removed the modification beforehand, regardless of what the car was in there for. Sorry to hear this. You now have a brand new 100k m5 with zero motor coverage.

TrevorM3 · 02-13-2019, 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MWcoupe

Always tip your service adviser, even when it's a comp maintenance. You'll see how far that goes for you and your wallet.

This doesn't even matter, becuase in a case of catastrophic motor failure, the regional rep is coming in, and I can guarantee you your SA has no say when he steps into the shop.

MWcoupe · 02-13-2019, 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrevorM3

Quote:

Originally Posted by MWcoupe

Always tip your service adviser, even when it's a comp maintenance. You'll see how far that goes for you and your wallet.

This doesn't even matter, becuase in a case of catastrophic motor failure, the regional rep is coming in, and I can guarantee you your SA has no say when he steps into the shop.

Everyone have a price.

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TrevorM3 Banned 3322 Rep 8,083 Posts Drives: 6.3 AMG Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Florida iTrader: (0)	Don't know why most everyone in here is jumping down the dealers throat. It's simple, BMW doesn't want you tuning the car, blowing it, and taking it in for warranty work like MANY have done (or tried to do) i don't care who is willing to admit it or not. I personally know 7-9 people who have blown f10's, all from modfications, some got away with new motors, some not so much. Thats the game unfortunately. Bottom line is OP should've been smarter and removed the modification beforehand, regardless of what the car was in there for. Sorry to hear this. You now have a brand new 100k m5 with zero motor coverage.
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